XHTML Coding

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    Anybody into coding XHTML by hand? I do it all the time. I can't afford Dreamweaver so I use a great program called TSW Web Coder 5.0.

     
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    RD2DG I smell a bump! VIP Member

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    Ive only made one site in XHTML... and it is probaly the only one I will make in XHTML and taht is my homepage (in info). Im what you would call "lazy" so ill stick with the less strict HTML.

    Dreamweaver is a very very good program for coding webpages and it fits nicly with flash and other macromedia progs.
     
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    S Walch MAME 0.64 :) VIP Member

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    I code by hand too, but in a nice little programme called Ultra Edit: Which is pretty much Notepad on steroids ^_^

    I have tried using dreamweaver but I just didn't like it at all.

    All the sites I make are in XHMTL.
     
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    James Photojournalist VIP Member

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    I also use proper XHTML. I use Araneae. Great program.
     
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    i prefer html, not as fussy as xhtml
     
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    James Photojournalist VIP Member

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    With XHTML and CSS it pretty much ensure that your design loads right in every browser... Plus you can do much more with XHTML and CSS.
     
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    I use Dreamweaver... nice clean and compliant code.
     
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    James Photojournalist VIP Member

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    I don't think I've ever seen a WYSIWYG editor output 100% compliant code, specially XHTML code.
     
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    S Walch MAME 0.64 :) VIP Member

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    No it doesn't :)
     
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    I haven't seen one either. It's a shame, because I'm sure there would be great demand for that kind of program.
     
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    Not really. Every professional webdesigned I've met couldn't care less about complient code, and the only clients that request complient code are organizations with federal funding who can loose part of that funding if their website isn't handicap accessible.
    They don't even bother disucussing with their client if the code needs to be complient, they just tell the designers how to make it looks, and the designers make it happan.
     
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    James Photojournalist VIP Member

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    It all depends on who your "client" is and if the designer cares about standards.
     
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    S Walch MAME 0.64 :) VIP Member

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    Remind me to never ask the designers you've met to make a site for me then :)
     
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    My sites are probably never perfectly XHTML compliant, but I try. It does make a difference when viewing on MSIE and Mozilla Firefox... especially tables. MSIE is very forgiving if you make a small mistake. Mozilla pretty much displays it exactly the way it was coded. I hate viewing one of the sites I designed on Mozilla because some of the tables look strange. Do a comparison between MSIE and Mozilla Firefox:

    http://www.grandmaednas.com
    (I designed this site using old-fashioned HTML, not XHTML)
     
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    James Photojournalist VIP Member

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    That's because the height tag isn't valid. Try styling it with CSS.
     
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    Yeah, I'll probably try that when I do a re-design. CSS is the best way to go.

    I did an experiment and found that Mozilla Firefox is picky about "return" lines in table code. For example if you code like this:

    HTML:
    <table border="0" bgcolor="#000000" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><table border="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Table content</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
    ...it will look good with a nice thin border (1 pixel) around the inner table. But if you start adding return lines:

    HTML:
    <table border="0" bgcolor="#000000" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>
     
    <table border="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>
     
    Table content
     
    </td></tr></table>
     
    </td></tr></table>
    ...it won't give you the nice 1 pixel border. The border gets thicker.
     
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    Forgot to specify a doctype too :)
     
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