Windows XP Licensing Information

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Mark, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. Mark

    Mark Guest

    I have 5 computers currently running Windows 98. Its a legal copy on
    Windows although it is only licensed for 1 pc and is being used on 5.

    I want to upgrade to XP Professional legally. Am I required to buy 5
    versions of XP or is it possible to purchase one version and additional
    licenses?

    Either way, if I purchase the upgrade version and install it over
    Windows 98, will this be legal given that the version of 98 isnt? Would
    there be anyway of detecting this?

    Thanks in advance

    Mark

    P.S. My boss asked me this question, as I was unsure
    I sent him to Harvey Norman, thinking their staff would have to
    understand the legal side of the software. They tried to sell him an oem
    version off the shelf. Idiots.
     
    Mark, Jul 12, 2005
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  2. Mark

    Uncle Bully Guest

    Yep. A license is merely a peice of paper. Not sure if they do volume
    licencing for as little as 5 licenses, but you'll obviously want at least
    one media kit (ie CD). For such a small number you may have to buy 5
    seperate copys.
    No, but don't waste your time. Go the full version as upgrades never seem to
    work as well.
    I'm not even sure if 98 upgrades to XP (not in the same sense as say a 2000
    to XP upgrade). In may be a fresh install anyway (?)

    Yes well you pay for what you get. Try Harris Technology. www.ht.com.au.
    Also idiots but slightly less idiotic than most department style shops.
     
    Uncle Bully, Jul 12, 2005
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  3. Mark

    Black Adder Guest

    You can only activate windows a couple of times before you have to ring
    Microsoft and explain yourself.
    Its also cheaper to buy OEM versions with a 40GB hard drive than it is to
    walk into Harvey Norman and buy the full retail pack. (OEM, but be
    purchased with hardware defined by Microsoft)
     
    Black Adder, Jul 12, 2005
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  4. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Do you think these guys will understand the licensing? Could you
    recommend somone who does?
     
    Mark, Jul 12, 2005
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  5. Mark

    Mark Guest


    Are you saying that I could got to any computer builder buy a hard drive
    and that would allow me to get an OEM version legally?
     
    Mark, Jul 12, 2005
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  6. Mark

    [BnH] Guest

    You can only use the XP Pro on 1 machine and 1 machine only
    [infact .. IF you decide to resell the machine and the sticker is sticked
    there .. you CANNOT take it off (literally n legally :)) from the box set
    :)]

    5 I think its too small for volume licensing. Last time I read those legal
    stuff, I think 50 was the minimal amount and they are not much cheaper too.
    [ for 50 ... for 1000 its cheaper ] ... any mvp here ?

    Try talking to your PC vendor, and see what they can suggest. + a PC that
    ran Win98 .. I don't think will be fast enough to run XP :)

    =bob=
     
    [BnH], Jul 12, 2005
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  7. Mark

    Uncle Bully Guest

    Any computer shop should. Harvey Norman is the equivalent of a supermarket.
     
    Uncle Bully, Jul 12, 2005
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  8. Mark

    geoff Guest

    http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.mspx

    Geoff

    If you were going to replace your 5 PCs regularly I would
    suggest full retail versions as they can be transferred
    machine to machine. If you would be holding on to them for
    quite a few years OEM might be adequate but if if you have
    PC problems you might not be able to activate the licences
    more then once

     
    geoff, Jul 12, 2005
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  9. You need 5
    Noooooooo! Don't upgrade, do clean installations. It's not worth the
    trouble.

    Oh, and no, you need to pay for 5 x XP if you're that way inclined.
     
    Damien McBain, Jul 12, 2005
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  10. Mark

    Ernest Guest

    Yes provided they are an OEM seller and you buy the suitable
    hardware with the software. Also you used to be able to by
    5 licence OEM versions - not sure if still available, they were
    for small businesses.

    Try these guys they seem to have some good specials at the moment

    http://www.soft-paradise.com/microsoft.php#mswindows


    Or you could try switching to one of the latest Linux
    distributions and get one copy and place it on as many
    systems as you like.


    Deadly Ernest

    @bywater.net.au

    (my new keyboard, with small keys,
    accepts full responsibility for all
    typographical and spelling errors)
     
    Ernest, Jul 12, 2005
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  11. Mark

    nva Guest

    Microsoft's "only to be sold with new hardware" crap on their OEM copies
    of Windows is just their attempt to people to fork out extra cash for a
    retail copy. It has no legal status whatsoever in Australia.

    In fact, that stipulation is arguably in contravention of the Trade
    Practices Act, too.
     
    nva, Jul 12, 2005
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  12. Mark

    Rod Speed Guest

    That has nothing to do with the law, thats just what Microsoft requires.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 12, 2005
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    Chuck Guest

    As someone else briefly mentioned, if you are currently running Windows 98,
    then chances are your machines will not be up to the task of running XP
    properly.

    If you are content with a slow grinding machine, then by all means do it and
    we will say "we told you so".

    If you really want it to be fast, then ensure your PC specs are up to it.

    Are you even aware of what specs you need ideally to make it run well? I
    suspect not.
     
    Chuck, Jul 12, 2005
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  14. Mark

    Rob Guest


    Get hold of a corporate edition of XP this does not need to be activated
    with MS, just needs the key.

    You should do a clean install as you are now running FAT32 and XP is
    better on NTFS system.

    rm
     
    Rob, Jul 13, 2005
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  15. Mark

    Ernest Guest


    BTW the minimum hardware requirements for MS XP Pro & Home are

    128 MB RAM, 1.5 GB HDD, SVGA, Celeron P300 CPU or better

    If the machines do not have those standards then XP wont run worth
    a damn. technical it should not load or run, but sometimes if your
    system is close it will and then run like a dead horse.

    Win 2000 requirements are

    64 MB Ram (Pro) 128 MB Ram (svr), 2 gb HDD, P133 CPU

    If less than that stay with WIN98SE or go Linux.



    Deadly Ernest

    @bywater.net.au

    (my new keyboard, with small keys,
    accepts full responsibility for all
    typographical and spelling errors)
     
    Ernest, Jul 13, 2005
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  16. Yep, win2k would be better (more stable, better use of memory & hard disk
    space etc) than 98 and not as big a resource hog as xp. An no activation or
    any crap like that either.
     
    Damien McBain, Jul 13, 2005
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  17. Uncle said....
    Probably better to actually deal with IT professionals who do work for
    other businesses in the area. HN and other retailers are really only
    good for residential business. In the case of HN, chances are that the
    person trying to flog you a copy of Windows may have been selling a
    toaster to a housewife a few minutes earlier.

    A dedicated PC store would be a good place to start looking.
     
    Martin Taylor, Jul 15, 2005
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  18. Mark said....
    What do you mean by "legally"? Is there some law, enshrined in
    legislation that prevents a customer from purchasing an OEM version of
    Windows without an approved piece of hardware?

    I was under the impression that this was merely Microsoft's policy on
    how it wants its products to be sold.

    And how does this cover if say I purchase an OEM version of Windows, but
    decide later on that I don't want it any more. Can I be done for some
    crime or whatever if I flog it on Ebay or in the local rag's For Sale
    section?
     
    Martin Taylor, Jul 15, 2005
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  19. Mark

    Ernest Guest

    This gets very complicated, under the general selling
    laws here in Australia MS may have difficulty in suing
    someone for selling OEM software by itself. The
    software agreement etc with MS is that it will only
    be sold with equipment, MS control the companies by
    simply refusing to give them discounts on future sales
    if they breach the agreement. As the user you have
    difficulties as you are not licenced to sell software and
    a whole bunch of other laws pop into play. MS has
    had some success suing people for selling MS software
    as unlicensed agents, as have some other companies;
    have yet seen anything about one going through court
    here in Aust yet, but may have missed it if it did. A few
    have been settled out of court.

    Deadly Ernest

    @bywater.net.au

    (my new keyboard, with small keys,
    accepts full responsibility for all
    typographical and spelling errors)
     
    Ernest, Jul 15, 2005
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  20. Mark

    Rod Speed Guest

    They wouldnt have a hope in hell, and they know it too.
    Pity there is no such 'agreement'
    Pity that is illegal under our TPA.
    You dont need to have any license to sell what you own.
    Wrong again.
    Wrong again.
    Wrong again.
    Because its perfectly legal to do that here.
    Not in this country they havent.
    Pathetic, really.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 15, 2005
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