windows on Macs

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Craig Ian Dewick, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. Something on TV just mentioned that Apple is going to start offering Windows
    for Mac's. I suspect this is the flipside of Intel's recent TV ad campaign
    about Intel CPU's going into new Mac's.

    So yet again we're having a unique 'identity' being ruined because vendors are
    being sucked into cross-platform deals.

    What are your views on all of this?

    Craig.
     
    Craig Ian Dewick, Apr 6, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Just another example of even Apple waking up, smelling
    the coffee and recognising where the market is.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 6, 2006
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    steam3801 Guest

    http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,18727786-5001028,00.html
     
    steam3801, Apr 6, 2006
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    Wayne Guest

    Wayne, Apr 6, 2006
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    Will_S Guest

    Will_S, Apr 6, 2006
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    Wayne Guest

    Oops misread. It is a patch to get it to work.
     
    Wayne, Apr 6, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Pig ignorant lie.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 6, 2006
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    DAC Guest

    I think you'll find xerox among others had folder by directory type window
    opening before either.
    Infact most of the printer companies came up with almost every feature you
    now see in the gui's
     
    DAC, Apr 6, 2006
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    Uncle Bully Guest

    When you say sucked in do you mean make lots of money from?
    Mac on Intel will be the most successful move MacOS ever does.

    If Apple had''ve done it 20 years ago, we might have had some decent
    competition in the desktop market.
     
    Uncle Bully, Apr 6, 2006
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  10. Why own a Mac if you want to load XP? I own a Mac to evaluate the
    differences, as well as 3 PCs. I can't see why someone would but a Mac to
    run XP.
     
    The Old Bloke, Apr 6, 2006
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  11. Sadly I also disagree. I have a Mac and 3 PCs. About a year ago Mac
    introduced Gadgets/widgets. Vista will have gadgets/widgets whenever it is
    released
     
    The Old Bloke, Apr 6, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    No maybe about it.
    Thats why I said pig ignorant, and I didnt say
    that you were lying, just that that claim is a lie.
    You dont need to have been there. The file system basics are
    completely different for starters, and the early Mac OSs didnt
    even have multitasking, Win had that LONG before the Mac.

    The early Win was built on DOS, the Mac OS was nothing like that.

    You completely garbled the question of the GUI and the OS and even
    then, the GUIs are quite different in detail and the Mac stole that too.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 6, 2006
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  13. Craig Ian Dewick

    Rod Speed Guest

    Irrelevant to the early Mac OSs.
    Some things are always seen first somewhere.

    The early Mac OSs didnt even have multitasking.

    The file systems were completely different to what Win used.

    Win ran on DOS initially, the early Mac OSs were nothing like that.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 6, 2006
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    Whatcher? Guest

    Macs have been, for many years, an expensive, slow computer. Since XPSP1 and
    the Mac OS-X came out, Windows has been more reliable, the ONLY thing Macs
    had over PCs beforehand. Macs running Windows is an entire waste of space.
    If you want a machine to run Windows, buy the cheaper, faster PC and be done
    with it and keep your Mac for your Mac needs.
     
    Whatcher?, Apr 6, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Nope.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 7, 2006
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    ShazWozza Guest

    And neither did Windows! Instead, they both had 'cooperative multitasking'.
    What they did was run code in response to events being pulled from the
    event queue. For example, if a window needed to be re-painted the
    application would receive an update event to tell it what region needed
    repainting and the app would repaint it and then hand back control to the
    OS. Apps could also run in the background by hooking into the idle time of
    the machine.

    You could have multiple applications loaded in memory at the same time and
    the user gained the impression that they were running simutaneously but
    really everything was running in the same thread and dependent on
    everything passing control back to the OS during idle time.

    You could copy and paste between applications and that was what most users
    were concerned with.

    Windows did not have multi threading and preemption until the Win32 APIs
    (Windows 95).
    Apple introduced the concept of Data and Resource parts (forks) in files,
    which MS incorporated into their PE format.

    The HFS (Hierarchical File System) introduced around '85 or so was very
    similar to the DOS file system.
     
    ShazWozza, Apr 7, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Wrong, as always.
    Pity the early Mac OSs didnt even have that, so
    it cant have been stolen from the early Mac OSs.
    Wrong, as always.
    Different matter entirely, and that didnt come from early Mac OSs either.
    But didnt in the early Wins.
    Irrelevant to whether Win was stolen from the early Mac OSs.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 7, 2006
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  18. Craig Ian Dewick

    Whatcher? Guest

    Just out of interest here -

    1984: First home computer that was multitasking - the Amiga.

    1987: Second home computer that was multitasking - the Mac.

    1990: TSR - the PC. It wasnt multitasking in reality of course.
     
    Whatcher?, Apr 7, 2006
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
    Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
     
    Rod Speed, Apr 7, 2006
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  20. There you go with that 'TSR' thing again. I think you are confused. TSRs
    were a particular type of memory-resident program and they were
    available way before 1990. Windows 3.0 was released in 1990.
     
    Shannon Dubois, Apr 9, 2006
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