What's the best 120VAC wall outlet with two full power USB ports ofat least 20 Watts?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Danny D., Jan 7, 2015.

  1. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    much sooner.

    the new usb type c plug will replace the existing plugs within a year
    or two. it's that much better.
    yep, and easily replaced should something new come along, which it will.
     
    Guest, Jan 8, 2015
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  2. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    those exist. what you won't find is 20w for *each* port since it's not
    needed.
    typically people have one tablet and one phone, so having one port be a
    high power port means the cost can be reduced a bit.

    however, as i said, there are some that have 10w per port.
    no problem. thanks for clarifying it.
     
    Guest, Jan 8, 2015
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  3. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    nospam wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:53:07 -0500:
    I don't know who you are, but, I have to wonder if you
    realize that the world-wide market for white apple
    looking stuff is not even remotely similar to that of
    UL-approved USA 120VAC electrical outlets.

    Nonetheless, the question remains whether anyone can find
    a BETTER wall outlet than the one I found, where better
    is defined as having at least two full-power ports, and
    where full-power merely means two iPads or similar (usually
    that's 2.1 Amps per port simultaneously).
     
    Danny D., Jan 8, 2015
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  4. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    Don Wiss wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:19:56 -0500:
    What I'm looking for is to charge two tablets at the same time,
    and the only spec I know of for tablets is the 2.1 Amp spec.

    So that means two times 2.1 Amps which is a tad over 20 Watts.
    Clearly that exists, and fits inside a normal USA outlet box.

    In fact, I had googled before posting, and only found one wall
    outlet that output 20 Watts that fit in a normal electrical box,
    so, my question was simply whether I had found the only one out
    there, or, if I missed a few (since I'm not an electrician or
    even well versed in this stuff).

    Apparently, based on the responses so far, there is only one
    120VAC/20W USB wall receptacle out there, so, I'll try to find
    a few of those to put in.

    I was just hoping someone out there knew more than I did, since
    I admit I don't know much about this stuff.
     
    Danny D., Jan 8, 2015
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  5. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    Frank wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:11:48 -0500:
    I don't know the answer, but USB is certainly here for the
    next five years, so, for the bedroom and office, where you
    are very likely to plug in a USB-powered device, it makes
    economic sense (at least to me), to pop in a 2-port 20-Watt
    outlet in key areas.

    Besides, the outlet actually costs (slightly) less than a
    similar spec'd external charger, so, if you need a charger,
    and it's for a static location, I don't see the advantage
    of the wall wort style charger over the receptacle style.

    I guess nobody knows of a better one than the one I found
    (which is surprising), so, I'll get the 20 Watt outlet that
    I had found by googling. They don't seem to sell it at the
    box stores though, so, I may have to order online.
     
    Danny D., Jan 8, 2015
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  6. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    nospam wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:31:56 -0500:
    Sorry if I wasn't clear in the original question.
    The goal is 2.1 Amps out of each 5V port at the same time.
    That's about 10 Watts per port, for a total of about 20 Watts.

    I can only find one receptacle that does that.
    There must be more.
    I was just asking if anyone here knew of others.
     
    Danny D., Jan 8, 2015
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  7. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    usb type a/b connectors will be replaced by the new reversible usb type
    c connector long before 5 years, and not just because it's reversible.

    it offers many other benefits, such as supporting up to 100w power and
    10gig speeds. a laptop would be able to charge off usb, much like a
    phone does now.
    it's a lot easier to change a charger as technology changes than it is
    a wall outlet, as well as carry it with you while traveling.

    that's why you'll see a *lot* more chargers for sale and not very many
    wall outlet chargers.

    the wall outlet chargers make sense in industrial settings, such as
    airports, hotels, schools, etc.
     
    Guest, Jan 8, 2015
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  8. Danny D.

    Rod Speed Guest

    Just as well...
    Yes, but its likely that plenty in china will be making
    what appear to be receptacles from those firms you
    listed when they are not, just like they do with Apple.
    That must happen with some of them with receptacles
    given that that is the whole point of a receptacle.
    Nothing made up about it, there are plenty of
    example of teardowns of the fakes on youtube
    and I just don’t believe that Apple deliberately
    made those to con people into buying theirs.
    Because it’s a real problem, just like it with with
    fake expensive perfume and bags and shoes etc.
    Why do you have hairy opinions ?
    We do know that people have ended up
    dead when they have used fake chargers.

    Yes, far more have been killed by not paying attention
    to what they are doing when using their phone etc.
    For a good reason. Few welcome that risk.
    They can be to the device you are charging with one.
    Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
    Your problem.
    Wrong, as always.
    But it does make sense to get US branded receptacles rather
    than no name ones from China if you find ones from china
    that claim to deliver more current than those US made ones
    you found.
     
    Rod Speed, Jan 8, 2015
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  9. Danny D.

    Frank Guest

    Wife bought me a tablet and toy helicopter for Christmas.
    Tablet was cheap <$50 but it came with a plug in USB adapter.
    Wonder what these outlets cost.
     
    Frank, Jan 8, 2015
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  10. Danny D.

    Lewis Guest

    Are you talking to the people who died using faulty chargers? Because
    those were actual people who died, not some story anyone made up.
    You are an idiot.
     
    Lewis, Jan 8, 2015
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  11. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    CRNG wrote, on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:14:47 -0600:
    The only reason for bringing up the fact that all the outlets
    are UL-approved was merely that the iOS group seemed to be
    crippled in that they are insanely worried about knockoffs in
    such as way as to cripple their minds.

    They apparently can't conceive of anything but Apple products
    having high quality (which is a marketing coup, by Apple).

    What they have no clue of is wall outlets, so it was a mistake
    in bringing them into the conversation since they're so
    stuck on a single manufacturer and can't conceive of multiple
    high-quality manufacturers existing.
     
    Danny D., Jan 9, 2015
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  12. Danny D.

    Guest Guest

    nonsense.

    nobody is stuck on a single manufacturer. there are plenty of non-apple
    products that are well made and work well with macs and ipads and
    iphones, some of which are even better than what apple makes.

    however, there is also a lot of crap that *doesn't* work all that well
    and in the case of chargers, puts the user at risk and has killed more
    than one person. some of it is intentionally designed to look like
    apple products to fool the user. in some cases, it's tough to tell the
    counterfeit from the real thing.
     
    Guest, Jan 9, 2015
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  13. Danny D.

    Rod Speed Guest

    You're lying, again.
    No one ever said that you should be using Apple chargers.
    This from the fool that is so completely pig ignorant
    that he doesn’t realise that any charger can fail.
    No one ever said anything remotely like that last either.
     
    Rod Speed, Jan 10, 2015
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  14. Danny D.

    Zaidy036 Guest

    Do not know if USB simultaneously offer 2.1 A here:
    http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?p...rtby=&period=&rating=&seq=1&format=4#feedback

    There are several "plug-in" multi-port chargers that offer full amps on
    each port only limited by total. They are great for traveling because
    they work on 120/240 v and the power cord unplugs from the charger so
    only need a cord with the correct wall plug on the end. Charger end is
    standard world wide.

    Look at:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MBDGVPM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Smart...1-4471567?ie=UTF8&refRID=06S0Z9YEZ0YWCNSSXJXW
     
    Zaidy036, Jan 10, 2015
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  15. Danny D.

    Zaidy036 Guest

    Do not know if USB simultaneously offer 2.1 A here:
    http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?p...rtby=&period=&rating=&seq=1&format=4#feedback

    There are several "plug-in" multi-port chargers that offer full amps on
    each port only limited by total. They are great for traveling because
    they work on 120/240 v and the power cord unplugs from the charger so
    only need a cord with the correct wall plug on the end. Charger end is
    standard world wide.

    Look at:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MBDGVPM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Smart...1-4471567?ie=UTF8&refRID=06S0Z9YEZ0YWCNSSXJXW
     
    Zaidy036, Jan 10, 2015
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  16. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    Zaidy036 wrote, on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:54:48 -0500:
    I have found that a standard USA power strip does NOT get visibly
    damaged when used with dual-voltage chargers. There are no UL-approved
    dual 120V/240V power strips though, so the Apple people will be afraid
    to do anything like this. But it works.

    1. You plug the USA spec power strip into the 240V outlet (with adapter).
    2. You plug all the dual-voltage USB chargers into that power strip.

    I find this is more convenient than bringing multiple mechanical
    power-plug adapters, but, I do recognize that the Apple people will
    be aghast at the fact that the setup is decidedly not pre-approved
    by Apple.
     
    Danny D., Jan 11, 2015
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  17. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    Zaidy036 wrote, on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:15:12 -0500:
    Thanks for pointing that adapter out.
    Unfortunately, it only puts out 2.1Amps total, but, at least it clearly states that:
    "plus a pair of USB charger ports with a total capacity of 2.1 amps."

    So, I give them credit for being upfront (unlike the Hubbell).
    The first is 10 Amps total, for six USB ports, with a maximum of 2.1Amps per port
    when fewer than 10 Amps are being used. Again, unlike the Hubbell, I give them
    credit for stating that clearly, which is nice to see with truth in advertising.

    The second is also 10 Amps total, for all five ports, or 2.1 Amps per port.
    So, for the $20 that it costs, it's not a bad deal, if it's well made, and
    if works as specified. In fact, it's a nice travel USB charger, if it can
    also handle 240V/50Hz power (but it doesn't say).

    Thanks for pointing that one out. It seems to be a keeper.
     
    Danny D., Jan 11, 2015
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  18. Danny D.

    Alan Browne Guest

    Done that. It destroyed the strip's surge protector with a bang and
    loud puff of smoke. Opened up the strip, removed the damaged surge
    protector parts, then it worked fine.
     
    Alan Browne, Jan 11, 2015
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  19. Danny D.

    Danny D. Guest

    Alan Browne wrote, on Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:35:40 -0500:
    Most of the MOV's in your basic surge protector are rated to something
    like 400VAC to 600 VAC standard operation, IIRC.

    (We could look this up, but I didn't.)
     
    Danny D., Jan 11, 2015
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  20. Danny D.

    Alan Browne Guest

    Just saying what happened. Don't know what sort of protector it was.

    Further, the surge protector is there to absorb spikes, not continued
    tension - that may have something to do with it.
     
    Alan Browne, Jan 11, 2015
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