USB Network Adapter versus Router

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004.

  1. I will be getting a cable connection instead of dial-in within the
    next couple of weeks.

    I have two computers in my study, which
    are networked by virtue of a network card I put in each.

    It has been suggested to me that instead of Optus connecting the cable
    modem via the spare socket I have in a 4 socket USB hub (which
    apparently doesn't give a good connection), that I should get a USB
    Network Adapter and plug that into the Hub and then the cable modem
    connection into that! This would cost me about $30.

    On checking this out with Computer Parts in Notting Hill, it would
    seem they have never heard of doing it this way and suggested a $99
    router. I'm retired, so a saving of $60 would help if it's possible!

    Would very much appreciate your comments and advice on this.

    I have a certain amount of knowledge but this is getting in a bit deep
    for me...............thanks.

    Ruth.
     
    Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004
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  2. Ruth Dassenaike

    Rod Speed Guest

    It wont work. If it did, you could have networked your
    two PCs via the USB hub and it doesnt work like that.
    The simplest approach is the router. It is possible to have the
    cable modem connected to one of the PCs and have both of
    them use the cable modem, via the PC its connected to.

    The router approach is cleaner and doesnt need both
    PCs to be on when you are using the net from the
    PC that doesnt have the cable modem connected to it.
     
    Rod Speed, Mar 2, 2004
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  3. Ruth Dassenaike

    nn Guest

    It would work but has the problem mentioned by Rob that both machines
    would have to be on to allow the non-connected machine to access the
    internet and is more system intensive.

    You are better off going the router route.
     
    nn, Mar 2, 2004
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  4. Ruth Dassenaike

    Uncle Bully Guest

    It has been suggested to me that instead of Optus connecting the cable
    You cant network via a USB hub.
    USB gives the same connection as ethernet, except you can't easily share it.
    It is equal in a 1 to 1 situation.
    No idea what you're talking about here. When you say 'hub' are you talking
    USB Hub, or an ethernet hub? You can't network PCs via a USB hub.
    A $99 router is the best solution.
     
    Uncle Bully, Mar 2, 2004
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  5. Ruth Dassenaike

    nn Guest

    can network via USB hubs. You buy the adapter that works like the
    original poster said and use it as a network adapter.
    Eg From Netcomm
    http://www.netcomm.com.au/NETWORKING_LANAdapters.php

    And many more of the same available in USB 1 and 2
     
    nn, Mar 2, 2004
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  6. Ruth Dassenaike

    Rod Speed Guest

    Nope, thats networking using USB/Cat5 adapters.

    You dont connect the PCs via the USB hub, you
    connect them via the Cat5 side of the adapters.
    Taint networking via a USB hub.
     
    Rod Speed, Mar 2, 2004
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  7. Ruth Dassenaike

    Black Adder Guest

    Those are USB network cards. They have to interface with something. You
    can't install drivers into your cable modem.
     
    Black Adder, Mar 2, 2004
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  8. Ruth Dassenaike

    nn Guest

    It is if you plug the adapter into the hub which is what the original
    poster asked about.
    You can use all the huff and bluff you like but answer the question
    honestly rather than saying you cannot network via a hub.

     
    nn, Mar 2, 2004
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  9. Ruth Dassenaike

    nn Guest

    You plug one into the hub and the drivers are installed on your computer
    and they work the same as a network card.

    I cannot see the point of this which I said in my first post as the
    router is the much better option and doing it will give no better
    results than plugging the cable modem straight into the USB which
    someone has already told her not to do.

    If this is the option she wants to go then buying a second network card
    would be cheaper still but still have the disadvantage of having to have
    both computers on.
     
    nn, Mar 2, 2004
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  10. Thank you all for your advice and comments.

    As I was beginning to get a tad confused, I looked into it a bit
    further and it would seem that what I'm talking about is a:
    obtainable on-line from Padstow, N.S.W. $44 Australian on-line.

    Now that I have found more details to give you, does it seem more
    viable or is the main conscensus of opinion the router?

    Ruth
     
    Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004
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  11. Ruth Dassenaike

    Uncle Bully Guest

    This converts the USB port on your PC into an Ethernet network adapter.
    Since your PCs have network cards you don't need this.
    Yes.
     
    Uncle Bully, Mar 2, 2004
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  12. Ruth Dassenaike

    Neil Green Guest

    Take the network card out of the PC then get the cable company to install a
    card which they have already allowed for as part of the installation.
    The card they supply will interface with the cable modem so just plug the
    other card back in for your local network.
    Cost to you is zero, apart from the installation fee which you're paying
    anyway.
    Only disadvantage as mentioned before is that both machines have to be
    switched on for the 2nd machine to access the net.
    A router will overcome this problem as well as giving you a hardware
    firewall which is desirable with a broadband connection.
    It's really a question of cash.
    As far as the hub and networking goes I think maybe Ruth was talking about a
    4 port USB hub, ie. a hub providing additional USB ports for the PC and not
    a 4 port network hub.
    Neil
     
    Neil Green, Mar 2, 2004
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  13. Ruth Dassenaike

    nn Guest

    You can get them cheaper online.
    As I said in another post, this is going to work no better than plugging
    the cable modem into your USB directly. The connection will be no
    better. The USB out on the modem is a built in version of this adapter.
    So you are buying something you already have.

    This will still mean you will need to turn on the connected computer if
    you want to access the internet from the computer that is not directly
    connected.

    If you buy the router you only have to turn on one computer.

    If you only want to turn on one at a time you can forget about buying
    the router and swap the cable over. Install the drivers on both
    machines. When you have the money then buy the router.

    Otherwise to save money plug it into the USB and turn on both machines
    but don't bother about the adapter.

    In the long run the router is the best option.
     
    nn, Mar 2, 2004
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  14. Thank you Neil, you have managed to encapsulate what I was after in a
    nutshell!

    Now I understand <G> Yes, I *was* referring to my 4 port USB hub
    providing additional support for my PC. I should have been more clear
    about that.

    So to summarise............I take out the network card from my main PC
    in order to allow for the cable connection card to be put in (as part
    of my installation), but leave the network card already in my second
    PC across the study intact to provide for the local networking with my
    main PC.

    Have I got that clear?

    Ruth.
     
    Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004
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  15. Thank you for clarifying that and as I was very proud of installing
    the network cards myself, I'd hate for that to come to nothing!!
     
    Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004
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  16. Many thnaks for your detailed comments. Obviously, I have to make the
    decision best suited to me now that I have all the facts thanks to you
    all.

    I have currently been having both computers on when I want to network,
    however, I do realise the risks are greater when I shift over to
    cable, so will have to take that in to consideration also.

    Ruth.
     
    Ruth Dassenaike, Mar 2, 2004
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  17. Ruth Dassenaike

    Unknown Guest

    Just for your interest, in Bigpond, they provide a USB/Ethernet converter.
    You plug the networking cable into it and the other side has a USB
    connection to go to a USB port on your computer.

    Did you think that is likely what he may have meant? Eg, cable into
    converter and USB cable into hub? I can plug my USB ADSL modem into my hub
    and it works so why couldn't he do that?
     
    Unknown, Mar 2, 2004
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  18. Ruth Dassenaike

    Unknown Guest

    Rubbish.

    You can plug the cable modem into a USB/Ethernet converter and that into a
    USB hub and have cable available to the computer the hub plugs into and from
    his description, then available to the networked computer he has hooked into
    that.
     
    Unknown, Mar 2, 2004
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  19. Ruth Dassenaike

    Unknown Guest

    Actually, YES.
    Plug the bloody adapter USB lead into the bloody hub and it is doing
    Internet for any machine connected to the machine connected to the USB hub.
     
    Unknown, Mar 2, 2004
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  20. Ruth Dassenaike

    Unknown Guest

    om.au...
    Wake up time! You can buy USB to Ethernet adapters and they are a little
    box, one end takes an ethernet adapter, the other a USB cable. You run the
    USB cable into a USB port whether that port is directly on the computer or
    on a USB hub connected to the computer.

    Surely you know you can plug a USB ADSL modem into a hub, yes? What's so
    different about having 2 computers connected by crossover cable and a USB
    hub attached to one with the cablemodem hanging out of that? I can do that
    right here with my ADSL modem!
     
    Unknown, Mar 2, 2004
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