stealing a mail server

Discussion in 'Computing' started by 116e32s, Nov 14, 2014.

  1. 116e32s

    116e32s Guest

    On the bus yesterday, two IT guys were sitting opposite me, talking shop.
    Then one of them said something like "did you hear XXX got their mail
    server stolen on the weekend?"
    Not sure of the company name, it wasn't anyone Fortune 500.
    Then explained that 3 guys went there, 2 dressed as security guards and
    one went down the fire escape with the removed server.
    I didn't hear anything about this in the news.
    The victim company must be too embarrassed to admit such a thing
    happened.
    Seems like a specific target to grab. Must be something worth
    knowing in those e-mails.
     
    116e32s, Nov 14, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    INSIDE JOB!
     
    Petzl, Nov 15, 2014
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  3. Presuming of course that they kept a copy of all emails on the server.
     
    Polly the Parrott, Nov 15, 2014
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    SolomonW Guest

    In most business situations, this is a given.
     
    SolomonW, Nov 15, 2014
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  5. Sounds like a modification of the plot in an episode of "Shameless" (in the
    final season, from memory).

    There're far easier ways to gain access to corporate e-mails, especially if
    the company in question was stupid enough to run M$ Exchange.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Nov 15, 2014
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  6. Place I worked at used a nice piece of server software called
    "MDaemon", and for some reason or other declined to keep a copy of all
    emails on the server. I know because I was hunting in there one day
    and came across the settings.

    They also ran Outlook, I think it was the first iteration when it came
    out - buggy big time!

    I suspected that all of this was an employment protection scheme from
    the sole IT guy.

    If companies keep a copy of all emails, are they obliged to inform
    staff?
     
    Polly the Parrott, Nov 15, 2014
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  7. So using POP3 - not the most intelligent thing for a business, given that
    they _would_ eventually be called upon to provide documentary evidence of
    something in e-mail if a legal dispute (either internally or externally)
    were to arise. Then again, perhaps they were going for the "plausible
    deniability" angle?

    It'd be the same as shredding all business documents immediately after
    reading even though you know you're obliged to keep them for at least five
    years - or storing them in the flood-prone basement in the hopes of being
    able to say "oops" when called on to produce evidentiary documents.
    Nothing much changes - the bells have been polished and the whistles
    re-tuned, but Outlook is still a piece of shit in its 15th (I think?)
    iteration.
    A possibility, though no network is so intricately "spaghettied" that it
    can't be taken over by a competent network admin.
    No, because standard terms of employment state that everything you create
    during work time is the property of the company. If you're using work e-mail
    to send scans of your buttocks to a co-worker, you've no legal leg to stand
    on.
     
    Bob Milutinovic, Nov 15, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    Yep they even electronically read them and if enough "scores" appear
    they then actually read them.
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    Petzl, Nov 16, 2014
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