Remote control for a Windows XP 64 machine

Discussion in 'DIY Computers' started by Simon Finnigan, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Hi all,
    i`ve got a Windows XP 64 bit machine that I want to be able to connect to
    remotely. i`ve installed RealVNC on it, but it is running dog slow despite
    the machines being plugged into the same network router. The graphics
    update incredibly slowly, but then again the graphics on the machine itself
    run very slowly, it`s a proliant server which has onboard graphics which are
    barely usable :)

    Any suggestions for an easy solution?
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 4, 2008
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Doesn't XP64 come with remote desktop server?
    Presumably you've already turned off all the whistles and bells that
    slow the interface, like animation, shading, sounds, and reduced the
    colour depth?
     
    Rob Morley, Sep 4, 2008
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  3. The built in remote desktop is somewhat quicker, but not great. Plus it
    often refuses to see the other machine (despite the network being known
    working fine at that exact time). Very weird!
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 4, 2008
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    Bernard Peek Guest

    If the system is constrained by the speed of the onboard graphics chip
    then the simple solution is to disable the onboard graphics and use a
    separate card.
     
    Bernard Peek, Sep 4, 2008
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  5. After having a play with logmein, I can`t see what is wrong with VNC and the
    remote desktop. Logmein runs like a dream - very annoying.

    As for your other questions, i`ll have a look and reply where possible - am
    on the busy side with a new job, getting home late every day is not fun ;-)
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 4, 2008
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  6. Which is something I want to avoid, as it`s an expense that I don`t really
    want. It`s a PCI-express system, but has a 3.3v PIC card, which makes
    getting a graphics card fairly expensive relatively speaking. Since it`ll
    be getting connected to once or twice a week, I really don`t want to add
    anything more to it in terms of cost, and power consumption :)
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 5, 2008
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    Bernard Peek Guest

    From the sound of this you might be able to get a speed boost by adding
    a PCI card.
     
    Bernard Peek, Sep 5, 2008
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  8. I`ve now got Logmein working on the system, and it runs very well - not
    quite as quick as being local to the machine, but not far off. So I`m going
    to be able to skip upgrading the graphics card ,which my electricity bill
    will be thankful for :)
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 6, 2008
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  9. Lke SS says, it wouldn't have helped anyway. Screen-sharers don't
    utilise gfx card capabilities, they just rip the bitmaps and use the
    CPU to compress them (except for Remote Desktop, which hooks in at a
    level below the graphics driver and still doesn't use the car).

    Cheers - Jaimie
     
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Sep 6, 2008
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  10. Would this still be the case in a machine which has a graphics card slow
    enough that using it locally is like using a PC over a network conection
    anyway? :) I really can`t emphasise how slow the onboard graphics for
    this PC are, and was wondering if this would actually have an impact. I
    accept that generally yes it works as you described, but I can imagine the
    slowness of the onboard graphics would slow doan the whoel screen updating
    process, which in turn would slow down the ability to send the data to the
    remote machine.
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 6, 2008
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    Bernard Peek Guest

    In message <>, Synapse Syndrome
    You need one that's faster than your onboard graphics.
     
    Bernard Peek, Sep 6, 2008
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  12. I'd love to say no, but honestly if it's that bad I've no idea, there
    may be something else horribly wrong!

    For comparison, I experimentally installed 2k on an old 486 with an
    even more ancient Cirrus Logic ISA graphics card (not even VLbus)
    fairly recently and that didn't crawl horribly. So there's no excuse
    for yours being so naff. You've done the "trying different drivers"
    dance?

    Cheers - Jaimie
     
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Sep 6, 2008
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  13. I`ve not bothered trying much, because the machine does the job it`s there
    to do (which involves sitting on a network with no keyboard, mouse or
    monitor). If I find a PCI graphics card while clearing out junk then i`ll
    give it a try, see if anything happens.
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 6, 2008
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  14. Very practical.

    A vague bell is ringing... I think I've seen insanely poor gfx
    performance on a shared memory motherboard that had the RAM in the
    higher numbered slots rather than being filled from slot 0. Fixed by
    moving the DIMMs (or maybe SIMMs) from 2+3 down to 0+1.

    Cheers - Jaimie
     
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Sep 6, 2008
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  15. Which does make sense in this case - the machine is a server and so designed
    to be left running headless the vast majority of the time. Why spend money
    and electricty on a graphics capability that`ll never be used. It`s got the
    expansion potential to put in a good card if needed, but if it`s not needed
    it saves money both up front and in running costs.
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 7, 2008
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  16. All the RAM is filling the slots in the correct order, and everything else
    performance wise is excellent - it`s up to transcoding 4 video streams at
    once which is the most work it`ll ever be called on to do. I`ll keep an eye
    out for a graphics card to test the PC with, but it`s not worth more than a
    few quid to me - and I can`t see myself getting a 3.3v PCI or a PCI-express
    graphics card for that cost :)
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 7, 2008
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  17. I`ve had a play now, and this makes no difference using logmein. I can`t
    test it locally as I don`t have a keyboard, mouse or monitor attached :)
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 7, 2008
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    Jim Price Guest

    Do you still get the same symptoms with keyboard and mouse attached?

    Have you tried ultravnc? It is available in a 64 bit version.
     
    Jim Price, Sep 8, 2008
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  19. I had the problem initially with a slow screen upfate, which when running
    any flavour of VNC was appallingly slow. I now use logmein which does the
    trick. I`m not bothered enough to plug a k/b, mouse and monitor in to try
    and fix a problem I no longer have :)
    I think so, wasn`t impressed.
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 8, 2008
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  20. Thanks for the tips, but the machine is running the drivers as supplied
    specifically for that machine by HP through their support website - the
    latest version I could find, and it didn`t fix the problem.
     
    Simon Finnigan, Sep 8, 2008
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