Re: "Apple doesn't even need to try anymore..."

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Erilar, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Erilar

    Erilar Guest

    Todd Allcock <> wrote:
    > Funny post on Gizmodo...
    >
    > http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-
    > ipad-and-they-loved-it
    >
    > "We Gave People an iPad 2, Told Them It Was the New iPad, and They Loved
    > It"
    >
    > "Apple's advertising onslaught is already battering down doors and TVs
    > around the nation—you're gonna upgrade to a new iPad whether you like it
    > or not. But based on our little test, most people can't tell the
    > difference anyway.
    >
    > "We figured that if we—enormous nerds who fixate on pixel density—were
    > underwhelmed by the screen, then what about non-gadget geeks? We rounded
    > some coworkers and handed them a "new iPad." The "new iPad" was an iPad
    > 2. They loved the new iPad.
    >
    > "Apple doesn't even need to try anymore."


    My daughter had just acquired the iPad2 when she came to visit last summer.
    Thinner meant it was easier to stick in a large pocket than my original
    iPad. The camera is nice for Skype, though I only have two people I use
    that for. I prefer my camera to trying to take fotos with a phone or
    tablet. I don't watch movies on mine, so better resolution on the 3 is
    meaningless to me. I see no real reason to upgrade.
    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Mar 17, 2012
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    Bert Guest

    In news:jk2k5a$ucf$ Erilar <>
    wrote:

    > I see no real reason to upgrade.


    It's supposed to be faster.

    It's supposed to have more internal memory for apps, so may Safari won't
    crash so often.

    --
    St. Paul, MN
     
    Bert, Mar 17, 2012
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  3. In article <XnsA0198775796D3VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>, Bert
    <> wrote:

    > In news:jk2k5a$ucf$ Erilar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > I see no real reason to upgrade.

    >
    > It's supposed to be faster.
    >
    > It's supposed to have more internal memory for apps, so may Safari won't
    > crash so often.


    The higher resolution display may also make it easier for siome people to
    read from for long periods of time (i.e. ebooks).

    Then there's the faster mobile connection, if the relevant service is
    available where you are (and probably you'll have to pay more - either for
    the access or simply becuase you'll download more than you think).

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 17, 2012
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    Carl Heinz Guest

    On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:53:39 +1200, (Helpful
    Harry) wrote:

    >The higher resolution display may also make it easier for siome people to
    >read from for long periods of time (i.e. ebooks).


    I'm REALLY struck by the clarity in iBooks. I think you're 100% correct about
    the likely reduction in eye strain.
    --
    Carl Heinz

    (Remove number)
     
    Carl Heinz, Mar 17, 2012
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  5. Erilar

    Erilar Guest

    Bert <> wrote:
    > In news:jk2k5a$ucf$ Erilar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I see no real reason to upgrade.

    >
    > It's supposed to be faster.
    >
    > It's supposed to have more internal memory for apps, so may Safari won't
    > crash so often.


    Well, my Safari only crashes for certain websites. I don't think I can
    blame Safari for that.

    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Mar 18, 2012
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    Bert Guest

    In news:jk5053$u2b$ Erilar <>
    wrote:

    > Well, my Safari only crashes for certain websites. I don't think I
    > can blame Safari for that.


    Actually, it's the thing called "Safari" that runs on iThings, but why
    not?

    Do the Web browsers you use on other platforms blow up on the same Web
    sites?

    Judging by what makes Safari and other apps blow up on my Original iPad,
    there's simply not enough memory available for the thing to render some
    more or less complicated Web pages.

    The fact that it crashes, rather than failing nicely, suggests some
    defect(s) in the underlying OS and/or in the Web browser itself.

    --
    St. Paul, MN
     
    Bert, Mar 18, 2012
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  7. In article <XnsA01AA4D49E02AVeebleFetzer@216.250.188.140>, Bert
    <> wrote:

    > In news:jk5053$u2b$ Erilar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Well, my Safari only crashes for certain websites. I don't think I
    > > can blame Safari for that.

    >
    > Actually, it's the thing called "Safari" that runs on iThings, but why
    > not?
    >
    > Do the Web browsers you use on other platforms blow up on the same Web
    > sites?
    >
    > Judging by what makes Safari and other apps blow up on my Original iPad,
    > there's simply not enough memory available for the thing to render some
    > more or less complicated Web pages.
    >
    > The fact that it crashes, rather than failing nicely, suggests some
    > defect(s) in the underlying OS and/or in the Web browser itself.


    Not necessarily - the same can happen with any web browser on any system
    thanks to badly made websites, usually thanks to Flash, or JavaScript, or
    using Microsoft's HTML options rather than the official standard ones.

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 19, 2012
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  8. Erilar

    Erilar Guest

    Bert <> wrote:
    > In news:jk5053$u2b$ Erilar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Well, my Safari only crashes for certain websites. I don't think I
    >> can blame Safari for that.

    >
    > Actually, it's the thing called "Safari" that runs on iThings, but why
    > not?
    >
    > Do the Web browsers you use on other platforms blow up on the same Web
    > sites?
    >
    > Judging by what makes Safari and other apps blow up on my Original iPad,
    > there's simply not enough memory available for the thing to render some
    > more or less complicated Web pages.
    >
    > The fact that it crashes, rather than failing nicely, suggests some
    > defect(s) in the underlying OS and/or in the Web browser itself.


    You want failure of website? Try opening googlemaps on an iPad with the
    fake "mobile" version they messed it up with and try more than one zoom(if
    you get that far) on a saved map and watch it crash. Force it into
    "classic" and you may get up to three zooms before it crashes. That's not
    Safari's fault, it's that part of google.

    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Mar 19, 2012
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  9. Erilar

    Bread Guest

    On 2012-03-17 18:11:54 +0000, Erilar said:

    > Todd Allcock <> wrote:
    >> Funny post on Gizmodo...
    >>
    >> "We figured that if we—enormous nerds who fixate on pixel density—were
    >> underwhelmed by the screen, then what about non-gadget geeks? We rounded
    >> some coworkers and handed them a "new iPad." The "new iPad" was an iPad
    >> 2. They loved the new iPad.


    They must have handed them to blind people, or perhaps people who'd
    never used iPad2s before. Because the difference in screens is
    astounding. Not quite as astounding as the difference between an
    iPhone3 and an iPhone4, but it's huge.

    >>
    >> "Apple doesn't even need to try anymore."


    > tablet. I don't watch movies on mine, so better resolution on the 3 is
    > meaningless to me. I see no real reason to upgrade.


    If I recall correctly, you *read* a lot. That, to me, is a vastly
    bigger reason to consider the high res screen than videos. The higher
    res makes reading a *lot* more comfortable. In fact, I claim without
    hesitation that it makes a much bigger improvement in reading than it
    does for video.
     
    Bread, Mar 29, 2012
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    Wes Groleau Guest

    On 03-29-2012 14:24, Bread wrote:
    > On 2012-03-17 18:11:54 +0000, Erilar said:
    >
    >> Todd Allcock <> wrote:
    >>> Funny post on Gizmodo...
    >>>
    >>> "We figured that if we—enormous nerds who fixate on pixel density—were
    >>> underwhelmed by the screen, then what about non-gadget geeks? We rounded
    >>> some coworkers and handed them a "new iPad." The "new iPad" was an iPad
    >>> 2. They loved the new iPad.

    >
    > They must have handed them to blind people, or perhaps people who'd
    > never used iPad2s before. Because the difference in screens is
    > astounding. Not quite as astounding as the difference between an iPhone3
    > and an iPhone4, but it's huge.


    Think about what he actually said. They had never seen the new one,
    so they just believed it when they were told the old one was the new one.

    --
    Wes Groleau

    Is it an on-line compliment to call someone a Net Wit ?
     
    Wes Groleau, Mar 30, 2012
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  11. Erilar

    Bread Guest

    On 2012-03-30 02:01:40 +0000, Wes Groleau said:

    > On 03-29-2012 14:24, Bread wrote:
    >> On 2012-03-17 18:11:54 +0000, Erilar said:
    >>
    >>> Todd Allcock <> wrote:
    >>>> Funny post on Gizmodo...
    >>>>
    >>>> "We figured that if we—enormous nerds who fixate on pixel density—were
    >>>> underwhelmed by the screen, then what about non-gadget geeks? We rounded
    >>>> some coworkers and handed them a "new iPad." The "new iPad" was an iPad
    >>>> 2. They loved the new iPad.

    >>
    >> They must have handed them to blind people, or perhaps people who'd
    >> never used iPad2s before. Because the difference in screens is
    >> astounding. Not quite as astounding as the difference between an iPhone3
    >> and an iPhone4, but it's huge.

    >
    > Think about what he actually said. They had never seen the new one,
    > so they just believed it when they were told the old one was the new one.


    I did - my question was whether they'd ever seen the OLD one. If you'd
    ever seen an iPad2, when you see an iPad3, the difference in screens is
    striking.

    If you'd never seen any iPad before at all, you have no basis for
    comparison and no reason not to believe anything anyone tells you.
     
    Bread, Mar 30, 2012
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  12. Erilar

    Wes Groleau Guest

    On 03-30-2012 12:39, Bread wrote:
    > I did - my question was whether they'd ever seen the OLD one. If you'd
    > ever seen an iPad2, when you see an iPad3, the difference in screens is
    > striking.


    That's irrelevant--they HADN'T seen an iPad3

    --
    Wes Groleau

    Nutrition for Blokes: Re-engineering your diet for life
    http://www.phlaunt.com/quentin
     
    Wes Groleau, Mar 31, 2012
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