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Discussion in 'Computing' started by SG1, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. SG1

    Petzl Guest

    Yes Android on "Samsung Note II"

    I only use a throw-away Gmail address
    but would not like it accesed
    Don't use mobile for banking but have "google play" activated and it
    can charge my credit card (which I don't like)

    Security is why I'm considering
    http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1320-RM944-4g-lte-black/#product_specs
     
    Petzl, Oct 26, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    I wouldn't. There are **** all apps for Windows Phone.

    If you want security, get a used iphone.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 26, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    I'm not confident that Iphone hve ever been secure
    Android yes heaps of APP's but not malware veriation most are
    Need the freware APP at
    http://www.snoopwall.com/
    to check both for Iphone and Android
    Windows not many APP's but what they have are trutworthy as
    non-malware?
     
    Petzl, Oct 26, 2014
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  4. SG1

    Rod Speed Guest

    They are anyway. And a hell of a lot more
    secure than Windows Phone has ever been.

    Apps on iOS just don't get access to anything you don't
    agree to let them have access to, and **** all apps that
    do anything dubious ever get into the Apple store and
    the microscopic number that do get pulled very quickly.
    Try that again in english instead of gobblegook.
    Nope, its just a very thinly disguised FUD scam
    to get you to run their steaming turd of a torch
    which any decent phone doesn't need because
    it comes with one from the manufacturer.
    **** all in fact.
    Bullshit.

    iOS is a hell of a lot more secure because if the sandbox system it uses.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 26, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    I've been watching security issues on computers since you started on
    one

    Seems to me Apple/Mac have more than their fair share percentage wise

    right now and you are right they (snoop) are using a FUD scam
    but the security check presently is free and accurate
    http://www.snoopwall.com/
    It maybe that one later will consider paying for it?
     
    Petzl, Oct 26, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    No you didn't. There were no security issues at all when I started on them.

    There can't be with batch systems with no comms at all.
    Nothing like their fair share once they
    moved to the sandbox system with iOS.

    There have been some footshots, particularly stupidly allowing
    as many attempts as you like with the iCloud password instead
    of locking you out after say 3 fails etc, but that's not the OS design.
    No it isnt with iOS apps essentially because the
    sandbox system doesn't allow it to see what any
    other app running on an iOS system has access to.
    I doubt they will charge for it given that its
    just a very FUD attempt to push their shit.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 26, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    First Flopies had an accidental virus affected the boot sector
    But the first Computer I worked on was a UNIVAC punched cards
    Not really clear on if it was "brute force"?
    Seems they are looking at SSL3 and scraping passwords/logons from
    puplic Wi-Fi hot spots and malware/spyware installed on Mobiles
    You should know, I don't use Apple, but it shows what APPs do on
    Android and makes it easy to remove/uninstal unwanted crap that came
    with device
    Helped me
     
    Petzl, Oct 26, 2014
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    felix_unger Guest

    It's all too damn complicated. :( I don't use hotspots. I have enough
    data allowance from my provider that I don't need to, and it's 4g. most
    free wifi sites are painfully slow too. but you often see ppl and kids
    in Maccas with laptops using their free site tho.
     
    felix_unger, Oct 26, 2014
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    felix_unger Guest

    what's a FUD scam?
     
    felix_unger, Oct 26, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    The first floppys had no boot sector and
    there is no such thing as an accidental virus.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_floppy_disk#The_8-inch_disk

    And that was long after the computers I started on.
    Mine were an IBM with punched cards and a DEC PDP8S, the serial
    one with an ASR33 with paper tape as the entire IO medium.

    No security at all, we didn't even lock the door of the room the 8S was in.
    Or just guessing the obvious possibilitys.
    Separate matter entirely to how secure the OS is.
    Not possible with iOS, no app gets to do anything like that.
    Its only possible on very insecure androids.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 26, 2014
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    felix_unger Guest

    so you reckon then that none of their products are needed?
     
    felix_unger, Oct 26, 2014
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    felix_unger Guest

    felix_unger, Oct 26, 2014
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    Petzl Guest

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
    Fear, uncertainty and doubt

    With Andriod thier product is free and withmy Samsung camewith all
    sorts of crapware not knowing intitially if needed, one leaves them
    there. This product looks at ones that can connect to internet and if
    not needed easily uninstall them
    Then unstall their snoop detctor
     
    Petzl, Oct 27, 2014
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    SG1 Guest

    You are not alone. I earlier this year purchased a USB floppy as my later
    MBs don't have floppy connector.
    My eldest laughed at the floppy saying she did not know they were available.
    It has been used since I installed
    DosBox and DosShell. The only problem I have notice with the 2 programs is
    that they do not use the numeric keypad,
    hate using the top row, but I will learn to live with it.
     
    SG1, Oct 27, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    They use Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to scam you into
    running their app that sucks everything that matters out
    of your phone.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 27, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Certainly not needed on a phone that
    comes with a built in torch function.

    Their app doesn’t even keep the torch on when
    the screen blanks, it’s a steaming turd of a torch.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 27, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    I don’t.
    Yeah, I do too.

    And I have an 8" floppy drive in a
    system that can use it too, not a PC.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 27, 2014
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    felix_unger Guest

    I guess I should have said I 'can' still use floppies. I don't use them
    routinely, but I still have a 3.5" drive in the PC, and a draw full of
    floppies that I may want to access from time to time. I have some with
    'critical' data, like passwords, etc. I figure that in the unlikely
    event of theft, floppies are not an item that would likely be taken,
    whereas USB sticks would.
    I imagine you would have an interesting computer setup. not the average
    PC user's. :)
     
    felix_unger, Oct 27, 2014
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    Rod Speed Guest

    I can too.
    I don’t use them at all anymore.

    Don’t even have a floppy drive in the latest machine.
    Don’t even have a floppy drive in the latest machine.
    Yeah, still got a lot of those.
    I don’t.
    I cover that possibility with offline storage.
    Yeah, full LSI-11 with a 7.5MB hard
    drive and a pair of 8" floppy drives.

    Basically similar format to a PC before PCs were ever invented.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 27, 2014
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