Pentium 4 Running Very Very Very Slow!

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Ramsin G, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. Ramsin G

    Ramsin G Guest

    A friend of mine asked me to format his PC because it was full of the usual
    junk, and running very slow.

    The PC is a Pentium 4 with 20 GB hdd and 256 MB of RAM. mobo = asus p4b-mx

    TNT 2 Riva 32 MB = video
    PCI cards = 56k modem

    nothing fancy as you can see, how ever it should be ok to install both
    windows 2k pro and windows ME.

    I found that the problem of its speed was not the junk filled OS but rather
    a hardware problem.

    I have tried over 10 times to install WIN2K and WINME but the setup runs
    very slow, so slow that any normal person would give up and try again.

    1 time i managed to be patient and after waiting 4 hours for the install to
    finish, the computer started to run slow in Windows, and after installing
    some patches and updates the computer would not run at all.

    I have tried using different RAM with no luck (problem still exists)

    I have also used different media to install the OS and also used different
    CD-ROM drives with no luck still.

    I have an old hard drive that i can use to see if the hard drive is causing
    the problem, but im guessing it will more or less likely be the motherboard.

    If anyone has had a similar problem please feel free to reply to this
    post... any help is much appreciated.

    (i have checked BIOS to make sure the settings are correct)

    TIA



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    Ernest Guest

    Why load Win2K and then its carstrated offspring WinME,
    wasting space and time. Suggest you just load one or the
    other and Win2K is, by far, the better of the two.

    First off, make sure that the hard drive is on an IDE
    channel by itself and that it has an 80 pin cable. Put
    the CD on the second IDE channel. Also chek the hard
    drive jumper pin settings to make sure there are no
    restriction via them. This should enable you to get
    the best data transmission speeds between the HDD
    and the MB. The older cable or the CD being in the
    circuit can slow HDDs down, especially if the CD has
    a slower data transmission speed.

    Then try switching the channels that the drives are on.

    Then the next thing to consider is to check the BIOS
    settin g and turn off the SMART drive capability for
    that drive. And watch the results, this will improve
    performance of some drives and not others.

    Since you have formatted the hard drive it should not
    matter if you format it again just to make sure it is clean.
    Then check it for a Boot Record Virus by plugging it in as
    a second drive to another machine to do the check.

    Then I would fix the MBR with an appropriate program.

    If it does not turn out to be one of these then you
    may have a real problem with the MB IDE controllers
    being faulty.
    Deadly Ernest
    @bywater.net.au
     
    Ernest, Apr 28, 2004
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    Charlie Guest

    Here here....Win ME is your first problem. Get rid of it. Even Windows 95a
    was better than ME!
     
    Charlie, Apr 28, 2004
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    PSyBoRG Guest

    You might want to check for a heat problem, p4s have built in throttling
    when they overheat. I saw a Compaq system that seemed to run fine when just
    doing little stuff in windows, ran a flight sim ok for about 2 seconds then
    went like a dog. Dead cpu fan. Once fan was replaced all was well. Might be
    worth a shot.
     
    PSyBoRG, Apr 28, 2004
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    Jock Guest

    "PSyBoRG" <.> wrote in message
    | You might want to check for a heat problem, p4s have built in throttling
    | when they overheat. I saw a Compaq system that seemed to run fine when
    just
    | doing little stuff in windows, ran a flight sim ok for about 2 seconds
    then
    | went like a dog. Dead cpu fan. Once fan was replaced all was well. Might
    be
    | worth a shot.
    |
    |

    I agree with this. Check the heatsink isn't choked with fluff & dust and
    the fans are working OK. They do throttle down then eventually kark it.'
    Jock
     
    Jock, Apr 28, 2004
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    colin Guest


    As well as other suggestions; have a look at the motherboard manual for
    any-thing that may look out of place.

    http://www.asus.com.tw/download/manual/mb-man-other.htm
    http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock478/p4b-mx/p4bmx-101.pdf
    http://www.asus.com.tw/mb/socket478/p4b-mx/overview.htm
     
    colin, Apr 28, 2004
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  7. Ramsin G

    Unknown Guest

    Depends. What speed CPU is the P4? I have heard of ME on a 2.4Ghz but it is
    getting a little worrisome about just how far it will be able to go. Havent
    heard anyone put it on anything faster but I am assuming it will do 3Ghz.
    If the HD is dying it can produce JUST the problems you describe. So can
    some hardware do that. I would suggest pulling every card out you can
    (sound, modem) and replacing the existing video card with another for a test
    and see what happens. As you have tried other ram, if it is still slow, it
    has to be the HD or the MB is shitting itself. Yu might try resetting the
    boot area and try an install then. If the boot area on the disk is stuffed
    it can cause a lot of varied problems.
     
    Unknown, Apr 28, 2004
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  8. Ramsin G

    Unknown Guest

    Run WIN95a on a P4 and say that!
     
    Unknown, Apr 28, 2004
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    Dave Guest

    I'd check the BIOS, some motherboards allow you to turn the L2 Cache off
    (for the life of me I don't know why), if that little buggers disabled
    it will run like a 386
     
    Dave, Apr 28, 2004
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    Geoffw Guest

    there is an update patch for win2K that is causing machine
    to run very slow forgot the number, have a look in

    this one KB835732

    good luck
     
    Geoffw, Apr 29, 2004
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