Nvidia 5950 256Mb or Radeon 9800XT 256Mb

Discussion in 'DIY Computers' started by Tone-EQ, Dec 25, 2003.

  1. Tone-EQ

    Tone-EQ Guest

    Hi all,

    "Santa" gave me a copy of Halo today, and a great game is it. However, it's
    time for an upgrade as my Ti4200 just doesn't cut it anymore. It's still
    fine for Unreal Tournament but I also need to have a system worthy of Half
    Life 2 and Doom 3.

    So, the question: What should I spend my Christmas money on? I'm swayed to
    go for the 9800XT, from what I've heard and the review here:
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/fx5950ultra-9800xt.html
    Any good reason why I shouldn't get a 9800XT?

    Happy Christmas and New Year to you all!
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    Tony. (tony.cue(at)tiscali.co.uk)

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    Tone-EQ, Dec 25, 2003
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    Morgan Guest

    Any good reason why I shouldn't get a 9800XT?

    Plenty of good reasons not to get either for now...

    Your Ti4200 will run any game perfectly well (like mine does) that's on the
    market today. When both of those games that you quote eventually appear on
    the market who knows what there will be in cards to choose from and at what
    price.
    Plus you will be making a more informed purchase whilst waiting until the
    games are released, before your purchase, as you will know for sure how good
    they are on your current system.
    Many people upgraded their cards a little while ago just for HL2's release
    and that never happened did it.
    Might not be the answer that you are wanting but I think that it makes sense
    to hold off. After all you have a perfectly good card.



    Morgan
     
    Morgan, Dec 25, 2003
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  3. In <bsfa90$547$>,
    It doesn't though. There are already DX9 games on the market. A Ti4200
    really struggles in places on the Halo demo.
     
    Tony Houghton, Dec 25, 2003
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  4. Tone-EQ

    Morgan Guest

    It doesn't though. There are already DX9 games on the market. A Ti4200
    Well it might do for you but not on my system with my Ti4200.
    Even on my Sons machine it plays fine and that is with a Ti500, not with as
    much eye candy but still very very playable.
    The OP seems to have made his mind up anyway on 'needing' a new card. My
    thoughts just suggest that there are options to spending a lot of money and
    using two games that haven't even been released as the reason to upgrade a
    machine is not something that I would do. By the time that those games will
    be released it would be unlikely that either the NVidia or ATI card would
    cost more than they do today, most probably less.





    Morgan
     
    Morgan, Dec 25, 2003
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  5. In <bsfq3f$4ef$>,
    Most of the time it's fine at 1024x768 with reasonable detail, which
    just makes it seem all the more a shame to play it at low resolution and
    detail just for the sake of a few places where it makes heavy use of new
    FX.

    Then again, Halo's not much good, so who cares.
    When's Half Life 2 due now? Must be quite soon now that NVidia have
    decent cards and drivers on the market again. There'll be a rise in
    demand for new graphics cards then, so I don't think prices will drop
    significantly either.
     
    Tony Houghton, Dec 26, 2003
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  6. Tone-EQ

    Morgan Guest

    You could be right, in the price not dropping too much. At the time though
    when people paid for their advanced copies of HL2 and then went out to buy
    the latest and greatest card on the market they 'missed' out on the cards
    that both ATI and NVidia have released since. So the price you pay might not
    be cheaper but you might get a later revision or version that you might
    regret buying a card just for a vapourware title. Especially when you
    already have a good card.

    I am curious as to which of the two titles will be out first... HL2 or Duke
    Nukem Forever...!!!!



    Morgan
     
    Morgan, Dec 26, 2003
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  7. In <bsg17c$fb0$>,
    True, and I think there has been a bit of a price drop. The cheapest
    9600 Pro when I first got tempted was about £117, you can now get them
    for about £100. And assuming that HL2 will cost about £30 it can work
    out cheaper to get an XT with voucher. Not a huge price difference
    though, and I expect most people would have got reasonable mileage out
    of them already if they wanted to play something like Halo or Aquanox.

    I resisted until today. I made it to PC World this morning and actually
    managed to get one of the fabled one-day-only £95 5900XTs! I even
    encountered a helpful salesman, and then got home to find the fan is
    actually quiet enough not to need replacing with a heatpipe. It all
    seems too good to be true.
    :)
     
    Tony Houghton, Dec 26, 2003
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  8. Tone-EQ

    Morgan Guest

    awesome news for you regarding the new card :)

    If I wasn't so lazy I would have got out of bed early enough as well to try
    and get one, hope that all goes well for you :)

    Morgan
    ..
     
    Morgan, Dec 26, 2003
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  9. In <bshhng$2cr$>,
    Thanks :).

    I almost didn't bother, but I couldn't get back to sleep after about 10
    so I thought I might as well give it a try. I rang up first and the
    bloke on the phone said they had loads of stock, they weren't likely to
    sell out, but he also said I needed a voucher from a newspaper, which
    wasn't true.

    Anyway, I got there, none on the shelves, or even any stickers for it. I
    was ready to go home, then managed to collar that unsually helpful
    assistant who found one for me in the stock room, scanned it to check
    the price (£200!), but then looked on the list of one day offers and
    said, "Oh, it is on the list for £95," and sold it to me :). I wonder
    if it was supposed to be an OEM version on the offer and I've got
    retail, because their website shows two different prices for it
    depending on whether you look in Components (£190) or Upgrades.
     
    Tony Houghton, Dec 26, 2003
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  10. In <>,
    I spoke too soon about the fan :-(. In the last few hours it's started
    annoying me. It isn't like when the bearings go, just one of those
    penetrating whines that set up standing waves or something so you can't
    locate the source unless you already know what it is and just generally
    drive you mad. Heatpipe it is then, but never mind, it was always more
    than likely to be necessary on a fast card.
     
    Tony Houghton, Dec 27, 2003
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  11. Tone-EQ

    Morgan Guest

    Still a bargain though vor the price that you've paid.

    But I must admit that noise reduction is a higher priority for me than just
    performance, with my main PC being in the Front room.


    Morgan
     
    Morgan, Dec 28, 2003
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  12. HL2, obviously - it actually exists! :)

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    Ross Tregaskis, Dec 28, 2003
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  13. Tone-EQ

    Morgan Guest

    HL2, obviously - it actually exists! :)

    ah yes of course. Now when was it released....

    September 30th - errrr nope.
    December 2003 - still can't find it.
    Ah rumour for April 2004

    Yup sure it exists :)

    Doom 3 might beat it though with its speculative February 2004 release
    date....

    Still my money is firmly on Duke Nukem Forever, that's only been in
    production for the last 20 years or so and it's almost finished now :))



    Morgan
     
    Morgan, Dec 28, 2003
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  14. You've got to give them credit; they only *announced* it last year...

    And at least Valve are talking. Sometimes.

    --
     
    Ross Tregaskis, Dec 31, 2003
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  15. In <>,
    I can't replace the heatsink after all, the old heatsink seems to be
    firmly glued on as well as clipped. In addition, I think they may have
    used locking compound on the tiny screws holding the fan in place,
    because the amount of force needed to budge them is more than the heads
    will take too.

    Oh well, it's not too bad, I'll just have to lower my standards of quiet
    computing slightly. I've turned up the Fanmate on the CPU cooler too to
    go with it ;-). I just thought any silent PC nuts considering this model
    of card (see subject) might like to know.
     
    Tony Houghton, Jan 4, 2004
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