NOKIA CEO'S LETTER TO EMPLOYEES

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Dr. Jai Maharaj, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Certainly I know examples of this. I don't know example among
    consumer devices operating systems though. Do you?
     
    Doug Anderson, Feb 13, 2011
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  2. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    SMS Guest

    Not OSes per se, but look at consumer devices that used standards that
    could be licensed, versus those that could not, i.e. VHS versus Beta. Or
    look at micro-computers, Windows versus Mac, which could be classified
    as consumer devices.

    Actually using "open standards" is a bit loose. DVDs, CDs, Compact
    Cassettes, Windows OS, etc. all have fees or royalties associated with
    them, but anyone can build products that use them.

    Apple has the R&D & manufacturing expertise and the distribution
    channels that allow them to go it on their own, and make excellent
    margins on phones. No other company has that. They've spent their money
    wisely to overcome the issues that have typically plagued companies that
    go it on their own with closed systems.
     
    SMS, Feb 13, 2011
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  3. Hmm. I don't think "open standards" is a very good description of
    Windows.

    But maybe you simply meant "licenseable."
    Yes, I agree with that lesson. If you want to build a new removable
    storage format, your choice of format isn't going to win unless you
    make reasonable arrangements for other companies to use it!
    It does seem likely that, long-term, Android's market share will be
    greater than iOS. And that at least medium term, Apple will make more
    money selling smartphones than any other individual company, in spite
    of this.

    I think cell phones are more like computers than they are like CDs,
    video players, or HD dvd players. That is, I'm guessing that more
    than one OS will flourish long-term.
     
    Doug Anderson, Feb 13, 2011
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  4. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    SMS Guest

    The OS will be immaterial. Eventually every useful app will be available
    on iOS, WP7, and Android. Probably not a bright future for Palm OS or
    Blackberry though.
     
    SMS, Feb 13, 2011
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  5. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Your Name Guest

    You do have a point.[/QUOTE]

    A Power(ful)Point. ;-)
     
    Your Name, Feb 13, 2011
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  6. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Your Name Guest

    how many installs those prices allow, although ...


    Actually there are four versions of Mac Office for because they decided with
    this latest release to charge more for the multi-user versions whereas
    before you could install the Home & Student version three times.

    Home & Student UKP90 1 user
    Home & Student UKP110 3 user
    Home & Business UKP190 1 user
    Home & Business UKP240 1 user / 2 computers

    Then of course there will be multi-license packs for big business, schools,
    etc.


    Yes, and lose 90% of the fancy transitions, etc. As I said, the only way to
    be FULLY compatible is to use Microsoft Office, and even then with
    PowerPoint you have to stick to the standard old transitions.
     
    Your Name, Feb 13, 2011
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  7. In the US, there are two versions: home and student, and home and office.
    They are not off-the-shelf retail purchases, which is what we're discussing
    here.
    If I can make a presentation that's able to run on Powerpoint, and do
    everything as one that was developed in Powerpoint, then it is fully
    compatible with powerpoint.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Feb 13, 2011
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  8. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Wes Groleau Guest

    Not a good idea. More often than not, a PowerPoint file
    made on a Mac looks like crap when played on Windows.
    And vice versa.

    If you have to make your presentation on a Mac and play it on PC,
    dispense with any fancy effects¹ and use PDF.

    ¹Actually, skip the asinine effects no matter what program you're using.
     
    Wes Groleau, Feb 13, 2011
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  9. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Wes Groleau Guest

    Do the world a favor and lose the rest of them!

    --
    Wes Groleau

    Change is inevitable.
    Conservatives should learn that “inevitable" is not a synonym for “bad.â€
    Liberals need to learn that “inevitable" is not a synonym for “good."
    — WWG
     
    Wes Groleau, Feb 13, 2011
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  10. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Wes Groleau Guest

    "If" My experience is that nothing is fully compatible with PowerPoint.
    Not even PowerPoint.
     
    Wes Groleau, Feb 13, 2011
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  11. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Wes Groleau Guest

    And both Google and Apple are now big enough MS probably can't get over
    on them by underpricing until the other guy folds.

    --
    Wes Groleau

    Change is inevitable.
    Conservatives should learn that “inevitable" is not a synonym for “bad.â€
    Liberals need to learn that “inevitable" is not a synonym for “good."
    — WWG
     
    Wes Groleau, Feb 13, 2011
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  12. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Your Name Guest

    The four packs above ARE off the shelf retail purchases.
     
    Your Name, Feb 14, 2011
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    Your Name Guest

    I've only ever had one problem making PowerPoint presentations on a Mac
    for use on Windows PCs, that one problem is with Quicktime movies that
    obviously won't play ona Windows computer that doesn't have Quicktime.
    Convert the movies to yuccky WMV format and it works fine.

    You do of course need to know what you're doing and the other limitations
    (e.g. which fonts to use).
     
    Your Name, Feb 14, 2011
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    Your Name Guest

    A PowerPoint presentation is a good way t put an audience to sleep ... a
    PowerPoint presentation without any transistions is an even faster way.
    :)

    Again, as long as you know what you're doing and don't over-use or use
    EVERY single effect, they can be done well ... at least as well as
    PowerPoint allows.
     
    Your Name, Feb 14, 2011
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  15. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Your Name Guest

    They're also big enough for Micorosft's other usual business practice (to
    simply buy them out) to work either.
     
    Your Name, Feb 14, 2011
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  16. The four packs above ARE off the shelf retail purchases.[/QUOTE]

    the "multi-license packs for big business, schools, etc." aren't off the
    shelf retail purchases.

    And as I said, in the USA, the only versions available off the shelf are
    Home and Student, and Home and Office.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Feb 14, 2011
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  17. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    DevilsPGD Guest

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    You somehow got a "out" stuck on the end of your "with" there. Weird.

    Seriously, if you're relying on transitions to keep your audience awake,
    add up the hourly salary of everyone in the room multiply it by the
    length of your presentation plus about 45 minutes and understand that's
    how many dollars you've just wasted.
     
    DevilsPGD, Feb 14, 2011
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  18. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    JF Mezei Guest

    Since this is drifting to powerpoint...


    Look at a Steve Jobs keynote address. See how the "powerpoimt" slides
    are used. (and yes, I know he uses keynote).


    There are courses on public speaking that use Steve Jobs as an example
    of what to do in presentations.
     
    JF Mezei, Feb 14, 2011
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  19. Dr. Jai Maharaj

    Your Name Guest

    the "multi-license packs for big business, schools, etc." aren't off the
    shelf retail purchases.

    And as I said, in the USA, the only versions available off the shelf are
    Home and Student, and Home and Office.[/QUOTE]

    The above prices are UK pounds sterling ... that might give you a clue
    that the USA is not the entire world, and they ARE off the shelf retail
    boxes. :-\
     
    Your Name, Feb 14, 2011
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  20. And I was giving you a clue that the UK is not the entire world. And
    whether or not they are off the shelf retail boxes has absolutely nothing
    to do with multi-license packs for big business, schools, etc., no matter
    how much you try to pretend they are.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Feb 14, 2011
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