NBNCo CEO shows why the NBN is a circus

"THE National Broadband Network will help older people stay in their own
homes longer and their aged care will cost a fraction of what they would
pay for a nursing home, the man in charge of building the project says".

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...roject-boss-says/story-e6frf7kx-1226543755255

For a start, old peoples' health and quality of life is much better if
they get out & about - so *mobility* is what they need not to be stuck
alone at home.

Secondly, social interaction dramatically improves quality of life for
retired people *and* their life expectancy.

Third, providing broadband services to a community is always going to be
cheaper.

This is why you cannot believe anything that comes out of Conroy or
Quigley's mouth - their sole dogmatic goal appears to be to 'sell' a
flawed concept to voters.

The CEO of NBNCo should be getting on with the job he was hired to do
and stay out of politics.



--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

"Mr Quigley hit back at critics who had derided the NBN's slow roll-out,
saying the decade-long project was like 'pushing the pig through the
python' but it would hit big milestones in the next 12 months.
...[spin skipped]...

The NBN has about 30,000 active customers.

[comment: 2/3 of them on the interim satellite network]

Mr Quigley said the aim was to have the network available to 286,000
homes by June.

[comment: It was supposed to be 900+ thousand by this month]

...[spin ignored]...

"Mr Quigley denied the company was wasting taxpayers' money, following
criticism it was spending too much on staff and taxis".

[yawn]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...roject-boss-says/story-e6frf7kx-1226543755255


--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

"Mr Turnbull said on Lateline this week his alternative broadband plan,
which would stop the rollout of fibre to cabinets on street corners
rather than into individual homes, could cost as little as $15 billion.

'I won’t try and guess what it will save in terms of capex other than to
say that if we’re putting 70 to 80,000 of these cabinets out around the
country it won’t be cheap', Mr Quigley said".

http://www.afr.com/p/technology/nbn_chief_defends_network_rollout_zRPWjn8hiTu4IjMNYslFSJ

Hmmm...this guy is in charge of spending $37b of taxpayers money. Let's
see how many cabinets the NBN will need...

5 million homes x 93% fibre / 24 homes(max) per GPON node = 193,750
cabinets...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5408775841/

That's more than double the number of FTTN cabinets!






--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

Hey Rod, sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut & let people
think you're stupid than to open it & remove all doubt.

Quigley referred to 'older people' not disabled people - and getting out
& about *prevents* disabilities.

Nursing home?

Nursing home?

Let's compare apples with chooks eh?


--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

He also referred to NURSING HOMES, fuckwit.

You don’t go into those for no good reason.

Not when the alternative is a NURSING HOME, fuckwit.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed those two words
in the quote, if you had not wanked yourself completely blind, fuckwit.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed those two words
in the quote, if you had not wanked yourself completely blind, fuckwit.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

 

No, you and he probably belong in one as you're already suffering from
dementia.

A *lot* of research has been done on this subject:
"Low Social Interaction Harms Lifespan on a Par with Obesity, Smoking,
Inactivity"
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/196056.php

Older people stuck alone at home is the *worst* possible environment.

They need social interaction and activity - such as in a retirement
village and being out & about.

And provisioning a community is *always* going to be cheaper.

--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

"Lying is easy: Turnbull calls for less spin"

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...nbull-calls-for-less-spin-20121228-2bybw.html

Fat chance of that. The ALP bullshit and abuse is just starting to ramp up.


--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

The greatest sleaze bag is Tony Abbott and his band of rent a rectums
The Mining sector has come right so the Government may well be in for
surplus.
Bye bye Tony
--
Petzl
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
Looks like Abbott turd, smells like Abbott turd, feels like Abbott turd, tastes like Abbott turd. Must be Abbott turd. Don't step in it!.
http://www.anyonebutabbott.com.au/

 

Thats what he wants.
He and Turnbull want to return to the Glory days of telstra when POTS
was the only way people could communicate at a distance.

if the clock was wound back a century he would be whining there was no
need for a telephone in every household because telephony would only
be needed by businesses, and not all of them. After all the telegraph
and telegram have been working perfectly well so far.



DM
personal opinion only

 

Do you really believe that the miners are going to pay super profits tax?
It took them a couple of weeks to setup transfer pricing companies
to ensure that the profits went overseas. Whilst a laudable attempt by
Labor to spread the wealth, like anything that Labor touches now it turns
to shit within seconds of them announcing a change of policy.

 

Always easier to create a stalking horse eh?

--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

"David Moss" wrote in message

He's a luddite David, he just blindly supports the current Liberal Policy.
When the ALP was originally proposing a fibre to the node system the Libs
and their puppets here were dead set against it. Now that Turnbull has got
them part of the way there and they have a FTTN policy its the obvious
correct answer. When the Libs eventually accept the NBN they will call it
something different and proclaim it the greatest solution ever. Turnball is
just playing the game. Abbott gave him the job so that he can actually
claim that Turnball isn't a man of principle by opposing something he
actually believes in. Hasn't worked so far, as Turnball has got them away
from using copper wire to supporting a FTTN system.

 

of course ;-)

Seriously though, I remember Turnbull saying that current Internet
speeds were adequate for e-mail, and that's all most people wanted.

DM
personal opinion only

 

I think you are completly right!
In fact I know you are!
Tony However has been claiming the poor miners can't pay tax!
Gillard Labor has them broke (normal Abbott bullshit)
Gillard to some extent has watered down the Rudd "superprofits tax" to
the point they are not paying anything

 

Most oldies (70 plus) that I know don't even own a computer.

So how are they going to use the NBN ?

--

 

I heard him repeatedly call for a business case by the productivity
commission. Conroy has wasted 5 years and set Australia back probably
more than that.

--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

Did he mention it was trialed and abandoned by Telstra in Gungahlin 15
years ago? Or perhaps Telstra didn't mention it to him when they
handed him the script.

Telstra will do anything to maintain their monopoly over copper to the
home.

While Turnbull is publicly saying FTTH is silly, privately he bought
shares in France Telecom, which plans to connect 60 per cent of French
households to fibre by 2020.

According to Conroy:
''He is trying to lock Australians into an inferior broadband network,
while investing to future-proof France's digital economy.''

Poor Malcolm. He knows the right thing to do, invests in it with his
own money, but he's stuck peddling an inferior product for a few cheap
votes to get Tony elected PM.









DM
personal opinion only

 

The problem with the ALP is that they have one-dimensional brains. All
they can do is chant 'Fibre good, copper bad' over & over like an 'Om'.

Turnbull is an accomplished businessman. He (and most financially
competent people) know that you cannot build it all at once - and thus
you need to continue to extract value from existing assets. And
technology changes - futurists are the worst forecasters. e.g. All that
crap about remote keyhole surgery.

The ALP are morons when it comes to money & it doesn't cost anything -
in a *ten year* timeframe to produce a business case and explore other
avenues. The whole thing is just one huge ALP bullshit exercise.


--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

<unsnip>
[Quigley]
'I won’t try and guess what it will save in terms of capex other than to
say that if we’re putting 70 to 80,000 of these cabinets out around the
country it won’t be cheap'.
</unsnip>

http://www.afr.com/p/technology/nbn_chief_defends_network_rollout_zRPWjn8hiTu4IjMNYslFSJ

Reality check. How many cabinets will the NBN need?
<unsnip>
5 million homes x 93% fibre / 24 homes(max) per GPON node = 193,750
cabinets...
</unsnip>


Earth to Quigley: 'Don't try to guess what it will save in terms of
capex other than to say that the NBN plans to rollout *twice as many*
cabinets around the country and ...it won’t be cheap'

--
Gillard - one week before abandoning the faux surplus...
"We don't jump at people's figments of imagination – we deal with the
facts, we deal with the forecasts, and I refer you to what we said in
that mid-year [budget] statement"

Swan - one week later...abandoning the surplus...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
(rotfl - that they can't balance a budget?)

Abbott...
"If the Labor Party thinks there's been some terrible injustice done to
Mr Slipper,
they should put him back into the Speaker's chair"

Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"

Tanner...
"When I joined the Labor Party people joined Labor to change the world.
Now they join Labor to run the world".

How much new law is there every year?


Gillard - who do you believe?
"The Prime Minister of Australia ...?"

 

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Doesn’t even consider those whose alternative is a nursing home, fuckwit.

Another pig ignorant lie with nursing homes.

Not when they are going into a nursing home, fuckwit.

Wrong, as always, when professionals have to be employed
with nursing homes.