KRudd's laptops send standards backwards

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...s-send-standards-backwards-20090719-dpkv.html

    THE centrepiece of the Federal Government's so-called education revolution may
    be worse than useless, a visiting American researcher says.

    Before the 2007 election Kevin Rudd vowed to spend $2.3 billion rewarding
    parents who installed or bought home computers.

    He later said his decisions would be evidence based.

    Jacob Vigdor, of Duke University, North Carolina, has conducted what is probably
    the world's biggest study on the effect on maths and reading scores of gaining a
    home computer. He finds "statistically significant" evidence that it sends them
    backwards.

    "Children in homes with computers tend to do better than those in homes without
    - there's no doubt about that," Professor Vigdor told the Herald.

    "But there could be other reasons. Those homes also have a lot of other things
    other homes don't have, and often have more educated parents."

    He examined the performance of students before and after their home gained a
    computer. This meant examining students from less well-off homes. The better-off
    ones already had computers.

    But Professor Vigdor told a seminar at Australian National University he did not
    think this was an important limitation.

    Professor Vigdor found that acquiring a computer at home made end-of-year
    results for year 3 to year 8 students in North Carolina "significantly worse" in
    reading and maths. These results were spread over five years.

    "The bad effects fade somewhat over time, but even after five years they are
    still negative. I am not saying go out and burn all the computers.

    "If you want to buy junior a computer with your own dollars, that's fine … but
    it's another thing when we talk about spending public dollars."



    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
     
    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Jul 20, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote
    More fool that fuckwit.
    Like hell he ever did.
    More fool that fuckwit.
    There is in fact plenty of doubt about that, fuckwit.
    So there is plenty of doubt about that, fuckwit.
    And that says nothing useful about the situation where the govt
    has paid the parents to have computers for their brats anyway.
    Not even possible to do that and separate other effects with the brats.
    So the sample is pathetically inadequate.
    More fool Vigdor.
    Wota terminal fuckwit.
    And is only relevant to the dregs that didnt have a computer.

    Those dregs are completely irrelevant to brats in general.
    Have fun explaining that.
    Dont believe it.
    Wrong, as always. In spades when we need a stimulus when you stupid fuckwit
    clowns have just completely imploded the entire world financial system, AGAIN.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 20, 2009
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    ~r4567 Guest

    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF,
    ,on: Monday 20 July 2009 19:09,
    , using an e-mail address: ,
    , in message <00800f35$0$9689$>: presented the
    following text

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    Moronic propaganda

    Thank you Lie-berals and Country-morons for the economic crisis.
     
    ~r4567, Jul 20, 2009
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  4. Er ... we're not in a recession yet, Rod.



    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
     
    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Jul 20, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    Nope, he is just saying what has been common knowledge. The kids that
    have stuff like books at home and who parents read and give them
    attention, zoom ahead of those that don't.

    If you want your kids to get a head, read to them from an early age. also
    do things together with them leading. Too many parents thing they can
    just give money.
     
    terryc, Jul 20, 2009
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  6. Akin to the good 'ole days where parents bought a set of encyclopaedias and
    just expected their brats to magically become smart.

    Like laptops won't make your kids any smarter, nor more productive when they
    get (aarg, IF they get) to the workforce.

    You can't expect to just *give* them tools and magically expect them to run
    them. Some do, and some don't. You need to *teach* them to use the tools.
    And some of these tools *don't* involve laptops either.
     
    John Tserkezis, Jul 20, 2009
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    Know1 Guest

    Are legos your attention span?
     
    Know1, Jul 20, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote
    Irrelevant to what happened to the entire world financial system, AGAIN.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 20, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Like hell it has.
    Thats nothing like what that fool was mindlessly rabbitting on about.
    Thats nothing like what that fool was mindlessly rabbitting on about.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 20, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    John Tserkezis wrote
    And that does work with the best of the kids.
    Corse it does when they are fluent with laptops.
    You dont with the best of the kids, they teach the parents instead.
    **** all anymore, particularly if they have a net connection as well.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 20, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    Well, as they say, you can lead a horse to water.
     
    terryc, Jul 21, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    Entire world? I think not. Only those silly enough to believe Standard
    and Poors.
     
    terryc, Jul 21, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Well, as they say, a rolling stone gathers no moss.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 21, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    terryc wrote
    You did get that bit right, nothing viable to 'think' with.
    Wrong, as always.

    Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed whats happened
    to the national debt of EVERY first and second world country.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 21, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    That is your excuse for your ignorance?
     
    terryc, Jul 21, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    Debt is self inflicted.
    BTW, perhaps you might like to look again at the real figures.
     
    terryc, Jul 21, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 21, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist terminal fuckwits ?
    Been there, done that.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 21, 2009
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    terryc Guest

    Yeah, another score tick from befuddled roddles.
     
    terryc, Jul 21, 2009
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
     
    Rod Speed, Jul 21, 2009
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