Is this 4 year old PC worth anything?

Discussion in 'DIY Computers' started by mark, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. mark

    mark Guest

    I deciding whether or not my first ever PC, bought 1999 I think, is worth
    keeping at all, it's just taking up space.

    Bought from Time, £1200 or thereabouts at the time I think. I don't make the
    same mistake twice :eek:)

    Cyrix 333mhz (I think equlivilent to a 200Mhz PII)
    128mb ramm
    10GB 5400rpm Seagate HDD
    DVD drive
    Onboard SiS graphics
    Onboard Sis sound
    Shitty Time beige case
    Windows 98 first edition


    My guesstimate is £50, if that?
     
    mark, Jun 16, 2004
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  2. Wouldn't say it's financially worth more than a tenner mate.

    Depends on how into PCs you are, but could turn it into a WebServer or
    perhaps a dedicated DivX machine or something?

    There's always a use for a computer. I've got a similar spec machine, which
    I've installed a 80Gb hard disk into and use it as a fileserver now, thereby
    reducing the strain on my main machine.

    Cheers,

    Dan
     
    Daniel B. Wells, Jun 16, 2004
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  3. mark

    mark Guest

    yea it's all original, I think it was one of the first PCs with a DVD drive,
    I remember not knowing about DVD when we got it.

    1999 doesn't seem that long ago at all, yet looking at the spec against
    todays really just shows how fast things move.
     
    mark, Jun 16, 2004
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  4. mark

    Bernard Peek Guest

    I've looked at computer ads in local papers. The asking prices usually
    look absurdly high to me. Who knows there may be a mug with more money
    than sense in you area.

    Alternatively, network it to your new machine and use it as a
    file/print-server. Making a backup to a networked machine is quick and
    easy so that probably means you are more likely to do it regularly. (But
    remember that doesn't help you if the house burns down.)

    I put one of my old machines in the loft on the assumption that anyone
    who broke in would be unlikely to look for it there.
     
    Bernard Peek, Jun 16, 2004
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  5. mark

    Parish Guest

    That's what I've done with an old P133.
    Another good idea. Also, if you now, or in the future, fancy dabbling
    with Linux or one of the BSDs then that spec of machine will be more
    than up to it (my old P133 is running FreeBSD).

    I certainly wouldn't bin it and having a respectable spec PC as a spare
    is always useful.
    You mean stored there or up and running?

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jun 16, 2004
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  6. mark

    Bernard Peek Guest

    You mean stored there or up and running?[/QUOTE]

    Running. I filled a tower case with hard disks.
     
    Bernard Peek, Jun 17, 2004
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  7. mark

    Parish Guest

    Running. I filled a tower case with hard disks.
    [/QUOTE]

    Good idea, but how the hell do you keep it cool enough in the current
    temperatures?

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jun 17, 2004
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  8. mark

    Bernard Peek Guest

    Good idea, but how the hell do you keep it cool enough in the current
    temperatures?[/QUOTE]

    It's an old machine with a slow processor, overheating isn't really a
    problem. I'd rather have it up there generating heat than down here.
     
    Bernard Peek, Jun 17, 2004
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  9. mark

    Alex Fraser Guest

    I think Parish's point was that - regardless of how much/little heat is
    dissipated by components - they are ALL going to be hot on account of the
    typically sauna-like ambient (ie the air in the loft) temperature when it's
    sunny.

    Alex
     
    Alex Fraser, Jun 18, 2004
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    Parish Guest

    Exactly Alex. If the CPU runs at, say, 30C in normal room temperature
    what happens if the ambient air temp. is 50-60C? Presumably the air will
    dissipate heat _into_ the CPU (and everything else).

    Obviously it works for Bernard, but I'm surprised.

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jun 21, 2004
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  11. mark

    Parish Guest

    Yes, but I bet your room doesn't get up to 50-60C (or even hotter) like
    a loft can.
    But an ambient air temp of 50-60C will be _hotter_ than the PSU (and
    probably the CPU as well) so no matter how powerfull the fan is neither
    will lose any heat to the air until the PSU/CPU temp has risen above the
    ambient, IOW they will run a _LOT_ hotter than normal, possibly too hot.
    Having said that I think that Bernard said it is a P233 so I guess it
    can cope with it but I wouldn't like to stick my dual Athlon, which runs
    at ~50C even when the ambient is ~20C, in my loft ;-)

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jun 21, 2004
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  12. mark

    GB Guest

    I suspect that this ought to go over to UK.d-i-y for advice on loft
    insulation and ventilation.

    I suppose that you could ask the OP how hot *his* loft gets in hot weather.
    50 to 60 C sounds very, very hot to me. Perhaps some lofts get that hot, but
    I don't think that any of the lofts I had ever got anything like that hot.

    If his loft only gets to 45C then his CPU temp might be 60C. I am pretty
    sure that my Athlon used to run quite happily at that sort of temperature.

    Geoff
     
    GB, Jun 21, 2004
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  13. mark

    Bernard Peek Guest

    It's hot but not up to 60, probably around 45 max. I've worked in 50C
    conditions and this isn't as hot. The machine is a Celeron 300. I don't
    think it has a temperature sensor, or if it has I've never used it. That
    particular box has quite a few fans. Intake fan at the front, another
    one in the front of the drive bay, exhaust fan in one of the expansion
    slots and dual exhaust fans on the PSU.
     
    Bernard Peek, Jun 21, 2004
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  14. mark

    Dave Mason Guest

    Try it in the local paper at UKP 200 and reduce depnding on the
    response. There are a lot of seriously stupid people about to take
    advantage of. Don't sell it too cheaply.
     
    Dave Mason, Jun 22, 2004
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  15. mark

    Parish Guest

    Hmmm, and start a monster thread like those that raged last summer about
    whether air con is needed in the UK? I'll pass :)
    FWIW, I stuck a normal room thermometer in my loft last summer and it
    got up near 60C. It's a fairly modern (i.e. energy efficiecnt) house
    with charcoal concrete roof tiles, no insulation under the tiles but 8"
    f/glass between the ceiling joists - a pretty efficient solar furnace.
    As I said in another post, I'm not questioning whether it works for
    Bernard - it obviously does - I was just expressing surprise.

    Got to say though that Tim has the ideal solution - a cellar! When the
    kids fly the nest I want to (subject to SWMBO's approval of course ;-) )
    buy an old property to renovate and a cellar is something I would look
    for....so a server room gets added to my plans :)

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jun 22, 2004
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  16. mark

    GB Guest

    Dave, I *hope* that was meant as a joke.
     
    GB, Jun 22, 2004
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  17. Bitstring <>, from the wonderful person
    Mine does too .. black slate roof, which is even worse than concrete
    roof tiles (i.e. only 1/4" thick, and a poor insulator). I'm seriously
    considering insulating under the slates, because the temperature up
    there makes storing things in the roof space a no-no (glue bindings on
    paperbacks melts .. that sort of thing). Like you, I have 8" of
    insulation between the house and the roof space, but even so it can't be
    helping the house stay cool.
     
    GSV Three Minds in a Can, Jun 22, 2004
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