Is the current iPad (not 'air') also known as the "iPad 4"?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Alan Browne, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    I've ordered an iPad (16 GB, iPad Retina, not the "Air" version)
    considered the "iPad 4" by some?

    A mounting product I'm buying indicates "iPad 4" compatible.

    Just want to make sure I order the correct widget version.
    Alan Browne, Jun 13, 2014
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  2. AFAIK it is the name by which it is commonly known even if Apple
    themselves don't use it. Why not ask the supplier?
    Peter Crosland, Jun 13, 2014
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  3. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    With an iPad I would prefer to stretch things to 32, or 64 GB.
    You are probably OK there.
    Savageduck, Jun 13, 2014
  4. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    No such thing (would have to be an iPad Air).

    This is work related - it's little more than a terminal.

    Alan Browne, Jun 13, 2014
  5. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    That's what the supplier calls it " stand for iPad 2,3,4 " - but Apple
    don't call it such (as you say). I spoke with the supplier and he said
    "the current iPad but not the iPad Air".

    Sort of makes sense.
    Alan Browne, Jun 13, 2014
  6. The Air is significantly thinner but the there are other differences
    between models depending on what the accessory is.
    Peter Crosland, Jun 13, 2014
  7. Alan Browne

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In the last episode of <>,
    The current generation is the iPad Air, it's the 5th iPad. The current
    "previous" model is the 4th generation iPad.
    DevilsPGD, Jun 13, 2014
  8. Alan Browne

    Lewis Guest

    Yes, 16GB is too small for an iPad. It is too small for an iPhone as
    well, UNLESS you don't plan on putting any music on it.
    Lewis, Jun 13, 2014
  9. Alan Browne

    DevilsPGD Guest

    I must agree with this. I went back to 16GB and I really regret it.
    DevilsPGD, Jun 13, 2014
  10. I have to agree. I have a 16 GB iPhone 5S. It works well, but I have to
    be very careful how many apps I have on it, and can only put a
    relatively small amount of music on it.
    David Fritzinger, Jun 14, 2014
  11. Both my iPhone 5 and iPad Mini have 16Gb and I find it to be plenty. I
    don't put much music on either as I only listen to music in the house
    and in the car, both of which don't need either the phone or the ipad.

    My iPad is apps and books and an ever changing list of videos, the
    iPhone has even less as I don't use it for much other than as a
    phone/messaging device and to use one of the golf gps apps.
    Lloyd E Parsons, Jun 15, 2014
  12. Alan Browne

    Lewis Guest

    Well, many people with iPhones use them to play music in the car. Some
    use them to play music in the house as well.

    But even with no music, a iPhone gets cramped and an iPad is simply too
    Unless you barely use them. I thin I read something that the average iOS
    user has about 100 apps installed on their device. That will cramp (or
    overflow) an iPad with only 16GB of space and can very much cramp an
    iPhone with only 16GB as well.
    Lewis, Jun 15, 2014
  13. IYO of course... :)

    Neither of mine are cramped at all, plenty of space to do what I want.
    I've read those reports too, and while I don't doubt the numbers, I've
    never figgered out why anyone would want 100 apps on their iOS devices.
    I've got maybe 25 on each and really only use about 1/2 that on a
    recurring basis. And that's been true since the 1st gen iPad I bought
    the 1st week they came out.

    And I use both every day. Of course, on the iPhone my use is pretty
    simplistic as the screen is too small for me to do much unless I break
    out the reading glasses. But if I'm at a place that is convenient, I'm
    probably using the iPad.
    Lloyd E Parsons, Jun 15, 2014
  14. Alan Browne

    Lewis Guest

    No, there are many apps that are 500MB or more in size on the iPhone,
    and many that are well over 1GB on the iPad. A 16GB ipad is simply to

    If you are a edge-case user with nearly no need for any apps then a 16GB
    might be fine for you, but it is still too small for a regular user.
    Right, but you've admitted to very light use and very few apps. That is
    very unusual.
    Red laser, Amazon Local, Amazon, Starbucks, Safeway, US Bank, Wells
    Fargo, Grocery IQ, Cash, Credit Union, Apple Store, Sonos, Play Music,
    Spotify, Pandora, Soundhound, Shazam, Ocarina, Loopy HD, pCalc, Nice
    Trace, Ping, Emerald Time, Knock, Speedtest, CoverageMap,,
    Yahoo Weather, Gas Cubby, Google Maps, MotionX, Automatic, Gas Prices,
    Google Earth, Waze, AirBnB, Mapquest, Flash Seats, Sit or Squat, iTunes
    Trailers, Plex, Air Video HD, Ted, Fandango, AMC, Yahoo Screen, Amazon
    Video, Landmark Theatres, MLB at Bat, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, PDF
    Scan+, Vesper, Cobook, Marbel Unlimited, ScanSnap, Kickstarter, Word
    Lens, uMano, 1Password, Chrome, Instapaper...

    How many is that, I'm almost half way through my folders, but I haven't
    gotten to the largest one yet.
    And that is very unusual. My wife has many iPads for her students. all
    have 16GB and the limited size has been a real issue, so much so that
    she's given over her iPad mini (retina) to me for me to use as an
    ereader. I can't use it as my main iPad because I can't install most of
    the apps I use regularly.

    To be fair, I rarely use Pages and Numbers on the iPhone, but I
    sometimes need to make a quick edit to something, and it is more
    convenient to have them than not.
    Lewis, Jun 15, 2014
  15. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    A snapshot from the top end. Just a sample of 20 apps on my iPad. I
    have a few more using over 100 MB & and another bunch in the 50-100 MB
    range. Those 20 Apps use up 14.31 GB, then if you include the iOS
    default Apps and what iOS uses, there isn't enough room on a 16 GB

    Podcasts 5.5 GB
    Waite's Birds 1.3 GB
    iBird Pro 942 MB
    Audubon Birds 806 MB
    500px 746 MB
    MapsWithMe 700 MB
    Zinio 664 MB
    Dropbox 646 MB
    iBooks 625 MB
    Google Earth 568 MB
    Topo Maps 402 MB
    Box 393 MB
    TED 385 MB
    PS Touch 180 MB
    Adobe Reveal 161 MB
    Chrome 156 MB
    MotionX GPS 148 MB
    Eyewitness 129 MB
    Kindle 114 MB
    Evernote 112 MB
    Savageduck, Jun 15, 2014
  16. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    according to apple, the 16 gig model is the most popular capacity. so
    much for an edge case or regular user.
    Guest, Jun 15, 2014
  17. Alan Browne

    Lloyd Guest

    That's what I see with my friends and family that have iOS devices. All of them have 16gb versions and don't have space issues. Seems like maybe the users here might be the edge cases... ??
    Lloyd, Jun 16, 2014
  18. Alan Browne

    Lewis Guest

    Everyone I know with a 16GB iPad has space issues as soon as they start
    installing any games. the iPhones are usually OK until someone tries to
    install music on it. People are onfused about the space on the iDevice
    and think if they add iCloud storage they will not run out of space on
    their phone.

    For example, I was at and event with a friend of mine and she was
    unable to take pictures because her phone was full. I checked her photo
    roll, but there were only a handful of photos, all from that day. "I
    bought more iCloud space, but I still run out of space all the time."

    "So, your music, you have it all on your computer?"


    So I deleted the songs and she was able to take photos and even record a

    This is our music from the bachelor's den, the sound of loneliness
    turned up to ten. A harsh soundtrack from a stagnant waterbed and it
    sounds just like this. This is the sound of someone losing the plot
    making out that they're OK when they're not. You're gonna like it, but
    not a lot. And the chorus goes like this...
    Lewis, Jun 16, 2014
  19. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    As I said, not the "Air" version. If Apple are selling it, it's
    "current" - was shipped from China...
    Alan Browne, Jun 16, 2014
  20. Alan Browne

    Guest Guest

    the 4th gen is last year's version, which apple sells at a discount.

    it's the same strategy they've used with iphones. the 4s is still
    available ('free' with contract) and is now *two* generations old.
    Guest, Jun 16, 2014
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