is my TURTLE BEACH SANTA CRUZ sound card better than ASUS boards onboard sound?

Discussion in 'DIY Computers' started by puck, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. puck

    puck Guest

    i have used a turtle beach santa cruz sound card for the last four
    years. although it has 5.1 but i use it as a 4.1 setup.

    i am in the process of putting together a new system with the
    following asus motherboard -
    http://uk.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=12&l3=30&model=175&modelmenu=1

    not that i need a free pci slot or anything like that, but was
    wondering if the onbaord sound on this board is equal or better than
    my turtle beach card. in the bad old days onboard sound used to be
    rubbish but a review of the motherboard i read stated that the sound
    quality is better than $50 sound cards. a link to the review is also
    provided below -
    http://www.sysopt.com/reviews/asus-P4C800-E_Deluxe/


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    puck, Aug 8, 2005
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  2. What I want to know is whether on-board sound uses any more processor time
    than a dedicated soundcard using the same sound chip.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Aug 8, 2005
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  3. puck

    troy Guest

    Yes it does. Use a seperate sound card


     
    troy, Aug 8, 2005
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  4. puck

    BigH2K Guest

    I have a Santa Cruz and an Asus P4C800E - Deluxe.

    I took the Santa Cruz out in favour of the onboard sound because using a
    Creative Labs DTT2500 5.1 system there was no noticable (can't spell
    discernible) difference between the two playing games, watching dvds and
    listening to MP3s. I dare say if I put it through a decent audiophile amp
    and speakers then the Santa Cruz would probably edge it but as I know you
    are a hi-fi buff too then I'm sure you're not going to be listening to
    serious music through a PC.

    As for it using cpu power, who cares when you have enough to do everything
    you want anyway? Having said that, unless you are deparately in need of the
    pci slot the card will occupy (which I was) then you may as well use it.
     
    BigH2K, Aug 8, 2005
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  5. I meant if all other things being equal. Like if the onboard sound has a
    VIA EnvyHT chip, like a Creative Audigy card.
    OK.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Aug 8, 2005
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  6. puck

    kony Guest


    No, but why would you want a sound card with the same chip?

    The same chip will have exact same CPU utilization on a
    card, and when it's on the motherboard (unlike southbridge
    integrated sound support) it's even on the PCI bus just like
    the card would be.

    Primarily the card "might" give you better analog filtering
    because it has more room for the filter circuitry. That's
    always true though, some cards are very cheap and
    minimalistic compared to other cards.
     
    kony, Aug 8, 2005
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  7. puck

    kony Guest

    Correction: above should have read "That's NOT always true
    though,..."
     
    kony, Aug 8, 2005
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  8. puck

    Conor Guest

    So the chipset is the same. Seen the number of capacitors to filter
    noise on an Audigy?
     
    Conor, Aug 8, 2005
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  9. puck

    Alex Fraser Guest

    I would have thought sound support integrated into the southbridge still
    appears like a device on the PCI bus. How else would it work?

    Alex
     
    Alex Fraser, Aug 9, 2005
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  10. puck

    kony Guest

    The PCI bus on a (southbridge-equipped) chipset merely
    connected the PCI devices TO the southbridge. The
    southbridge can (and does now) have integral features that
    have no need to connect to an external (PCI) bus but rather
    more directly connect to the northbridge.

    PCI bus connects two (or more) chips. If sound is integral
    to the southbridge, what on the PCI bus would it then need
    to connect to? The digitized audio leaves the southbridge
    on separate traces to go to the codec, it is a serial bus
    with no other functionality nor data bandwidth issues to
    resolve.
     
    kony, Aug 9, 2005
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