I want a smart playlist that's a subset of a playlist that won't fit on my device

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Howard Brazee, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. I want a smart playlist that's a subset of a playlist that won't fit
    on my device. I created a playlist in iTunes that points to a
    playlist that I want, but is limited in size.

    When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error
    symbol (a ! within a triangle within a circle)

    I clicked on the smart playlist and got "This smart playlist depends
    on one or more playlists which cannot be found".

    I infer that the playlists that cannot be found must be on the
    devices. But the whole reason I have that playlist is because my
    full playlist is too large to fit on my device. (my iPhone is
    small, my iPad is the largest iPad 1 available, but it also is full).

    My desire is to carry a subset of my large playlist that gets updated
    when I synchronize, so that I'm not listening to the same music all
    the time.

    --
    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Feb 27, 2012
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  2. As I understand it, and I may be wrong, a smart playlist is really a set of
    pointers to songs; if the songs don't reside on the same device, they can't
    be found. When you sync the smart playlist without syncing the songs
    pointed to from within the smart playlist, you'll get that error.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Feb 27, 2012
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  3. That's what it looks like. So how do I do what I want to do?

    --
    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Feb 27, 2012
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  4. That's what it looks like. So how do I do what I want to do?[/QUOTE]

    Sorry, but I have no idea.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Feb 27, 2012
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  5. Howard Brazee

    David Empson Guest

    That's a regular playlist.

    A smart playlist is a search rule. Its content is generated dynamically,
    and can change (e.g. 100 least recently played songs will update with a
    new song if you play one of the songs on the list). If the smart
    playlist is copied to an iOS device, the rule is copied, not the list of
    songs. The iOS device generates the content by searching for items which
    match the rule.

    If the smart playlist references a regular playlist which is not on the
    device, then the smart playlist won't have any items on the device.

    The only way I can think of to get around this would be to use an
    AppleScript or separate utility which works with iTunes, such as a
    random playlist creator which derives a regular playlist as a subset of
    the "master" one, and then sync that generated regular playlist.
     
    David Empson, Feb 27, 2012
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  6. Yeah, I thought about that, but I'd have to do a lot of work to learn
    scripting well enough.

    --
    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Feb 28, 2012
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  7. Howard Brazee

    Michael Eyd Guest

    Am 28.02.2012 00:36, schrieb David Empson:
    Hm, I may be wrong (I'm not using playlists at all, least smart
    playlists), but if that's really how smart playlists work, why not just
    create a smart playlist with a rule for '*' (or whatever identifies
    every song on the device)? In this case the smart playlist should always
    contain all songs currently present on device, shouldn't it?

    Best of luck,

    Michael
     
    Michael Eyd, Feb 28, 2012
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  8. Howard Brazee

    David Empson Guest

    The problem is that the set of songs on the device needs to change
    according to a playlist (which is a random subset of a larger playlist).

    The set of songs from which Howard wants a random selection is too large
    to fit on the device. Manually copying a smaller selection defeats the
    concept.
     
    David Empson, Feb 28, 2012
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  9. Howard Brazee

    David Empson Guest

    Or use an existing tool. I came across one a while ago called "Random
    Playlist Creator", which I haven't tried. It may be quite old, and is
    probably PowerPC only, which would render it incompatible with Lion.

    http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/17703/random-playlist-creator

    There may also be something suitable on Doug's AppleScripts.
     
    David Empson, Feb 28, 2012
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  10. The download page could not be found.
    I e-mailed Doug this morning asking if he had such a tool after I
    didn't find one.

    --
    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Feb 28, 2012
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