HP Microserver (again) N40L

Discussion in 'DIY Computers' started by Tim.., Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Tim..

    Tim.. Guest

    Well finally sercummed to one of these babies primarily as my Buffalo
    Linkstation NAS is about full + the drive is at least 6yrs old. It's been
    faultless in this time (touch wood)!!

    So intending to install WHS 2011 on the N40L with 2x WD data drives in a
    Raid 1 configuration.

    First obstacle - bodging a DVD drive in to install the OS or a USB flash
    stick of sufficient size :>

    Tim.., Mar 28, 2012
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  2. No bodging required - it has a 5.25" slot for a DVD, and an internal
    USB socket for a flash drive.

    They're really nice kit.

    Cheers - Jaimie (succumbed, btw!)
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Mar 28, 2012
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    Tim.. Guest

    Any tips on a pain free deployment of WHS and then migration of 120gb data
    to it ?

    I'd like it to operate in a similar manner to the current NAS where I open &
    deposit files directly to from whichever of 4 PC's that are in use...

    Tim.., Mar 28, 2012
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    Daniel James Guest

    You can fit an internal SATA optical -- you will need a SATA power cable
    (because HP strangely only provide a 4-pin Molex power connector) and a
    normal SATA data cable. At least, you do for the N36L ... I assume the
    N40L is the same apart from the CPU (and the extra GB of RAM).

    Or you can use a USB optical drive. I really recommend this, as USB
    opticals are really handy things to have lying around and not
    particularly expensive.

    I don't know whether WHS can be installed from a USB Flash drive --
    Windows is funny like that -- so check before you try that route.

    Daniel James, Mar 28, 2012
  5. 1) Install WHS (I've never done that, but it can't be hard)
    2) Spend a day patching it up etc
    3) Set up your RAID
    4) Copy your data across from the Buffalo using something *other* than
    Explorer. Xcopy, robocopy, or sundry other restartable copy utilities.
    5) Share the folder the data is in to the network.
    Yep, it'll do that.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Mar 28, 2012
  6. Synctoy will move the data. I've got three of these with Windows 7 on,
    lovely machines!
    Simon Finnigan, Apr 1, 2012
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    Mark Guest

    Why WHS? There are better server OSs.

    You can certainly install Linux directly off a USB flash drive. This
    is what I did.
    Mark, Apr 12, 2012
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    GS Guest

    Given the popularity of the HP Microserver, I've been wondering in what
    circumstances it would be worth buying a full size server nowadays. What
    size office network or workload would you need before splashing out on one
    of the big noisy floorstanding jobbies from Dell et al?
    GS, Apr 17, 2012
  9. The HP's are *seriously* limited on CPU, and not terrifically endowed
    with memory slots. Nor do they have enough drive space to do a
    usefully large RAID10.

    They really are little domestic or small department size servers,
    nothing more.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    Jaimie Vandenbergh, Apr 17, 2012
  10. No fault tolerance, no redundancy, no hot-swap parts, built down to a

    As you say though, very good SOHO/small business servers.
    Mike Tomlinson, Apr 17, 2012
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    Clive George Guest

    No lights-out hardware, no redundancy in things like power either.

    Of course the step after the big noisy floorstanding ones is smaller
    noisy rackmounted ones with separate disk arrays.
    Clive George, Apr 17, 2012
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    Mark Guest

    Or renting space in a data centre.
    Mark, Apr 17, 2012
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    Nick Guest

    Nick, Apr 17, 2012
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    Clive George Guest

    What do you think is in those data centres? :)
    Clive George, Apr 17, 2012
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    Mark Guest

    I know what's there. I was responding to your comment starting "the
    step after". My point is that it may be the next step to rent space
    rather than to run your own server.
    Mark, Apr 17, 2012
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    Clive George Guest

    We rent space for our own servers :)
    Clive George, Apr 17, 2012
  17. The HP's are *seriously* limited on CPU, and not terrifically endowed
    2 Dimm slots, up to 8GB ram (ecc and non-ecc) qualify for "not too
    You have 4 hdd slots, can use the optical drive place for a fifth, and
    have an esata port...
    remote management card (iLo) for 100 quids (optional)...

    Price/size of a nas, better than a nas: radeon hd 4000 integrated,
    ddr3, esata, pcie x16 and x1, very decent Network speed
    Can reach 200MB/s on my JMB393 raid 5 external on the esata port and
    150mb/s on crystal diskmark on my 3tb hds723030ala640 (i used the
    hacked bios to have ahci on all ports. DO NOT forget to install 785e
    Chipset+graphic driver from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/embedded/8-95/Pages/embedded_windows_all.aspx
    can't get more for 200 quids. Now at 350, would be less interesting...

    If you need 6 disks raid 10, i guess you might need a real server...

    benjamin brisson, Apr 27, 2012
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