how can the user benefit from a iPad Retina display?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Brian, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    If your a user of the retina iPad then when does the retina become useful?
    For example do you notice it when reading text, does the text look better?
    Do the photos you take with the iPad camera look sharper and clearer on the
    retina iPad? Are there any apps that support this retina display ?

    Often a feature gets advertised but its only of use if the user can benefit
    from it.
     
    Brian, Jul 30, 2013
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  2. Brian

    Guest Guest

    any time you look at it.
    most of them.
     
    Guest, Jul 30, 2013
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  3. Whenever you look at the screen.
    Yes, much better.
    All photos, not just the ones taken with the iPad camera.
    A heck of a lot of them.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Jul 30, 2013
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    Wes Groleau Guest

    Depends on how you define "of use." It's "of use" if it sells more product.
     
    Wes Groleau, Jul 31, 2013
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  5. Brian

    Wes Groleau Guest

    I suspect (but I've been too lazy to measure it) that "supporting the
    retina display" means packing larger graphics files into the app,
    sucking up more of your storage space.

    And in most apps, the difference accomplishes nothing useful.
     
    Wes Groleau, Jul 31, 2013
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    David Taylor Guest

    ... unless you find the text clearer and easier to read, which I
    certainly do. It may not be a deal-breaker, but for me the higher pixel
    density is a well worthwhile improvement.
     
    David Taylor, Jul 31, 2013
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  7. Brian

    Brian Guest

    From the feedback I've been getting its seems like viewing a High
    definition picture on TV compared to a standard definition picture when
    comparing a iPad with Retina display.
     
    Brian, Jul 31, 2013
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    David Taylor Guest

    On 31/07/2013 10:09, Brian wrote:
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    Rather than rely on 3rd-hand information, most folk can just pop into a
    suitable shop and see for themselves. Like HD, it rather depends on
    your normal viewing distance, but closer up the difference is (to me)
    immediately obvious.
     
    David Taylor, Jul 31, 2013
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    Fred Moore Guest

    Yes, the crystal clarity of the iPad 4's Retina display is nothing short
    of stunning.
     
    Fred Moore, Jul 31, 2013
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    Wes Groleau Guest

    There's no denying that if you HAVE a "retina display" it is a bit more
    pleasant to look at. But does it improve your aim in "angry birds"?
    Does it reduce errors in your accounting? etc. One thing's certain:
    it doesn't help you pack more music into the device.

    So, whether the pleasantness is worth the (possible) loss of space is
    up to each person to decide. Not that it makes much difference--the
    programmers aren't asking whether you want it or not.

    And if you don't have a retina display, tough beans. You get all the
    disadvantages and none of the advantages.
     
    Wes Groleau, Aug 1, 2013
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  11. Brian

    Brian Guest

    What is this loss of space in your reply?
     
    Brian, Aug 1, 2013
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    Lewis Guest

    It's easier to exactly duplicate a shot, yes.
    If you don't mistake a 0 for an 8 because the display is clearer, yes?
    It also helps in reading, both on the web (especially shitty sites that
    do grey on grey text) and in books/pdfs.
     
    Lewis, Aug 1, 2013
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    Wes Groleau Guest

    I doubt that, but I'll never know for sure because asa far as I am
    concerned _nothing_ in "Angry Birds" has any practical value.
    If that was a problem before the retina display, you need the
    accessibility features or you foolishly selected a crappy app.
    Plus, when accounting if you don't take steps to be usre of
    a blurry digit, then you really don't care anyway, do you?
    I don't waste time with those kind of websites. I did notice the
    difference in iBook, but I had no trouble reading them before.
    Again, I didn't ask whether it looks better, I asked whether
    the visual difference is worth the cost.
     
    Wes Groleau, Aug 1, 2013
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  14. Brian

    Wes Groleau Guest

    "Enhanced for retina display" basically means that every image takes up
    four times the storage, unless compression is increased (which reduces
    the quality).
     
    Wes Groleau, Aug 1, 2013
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    Lewis Guest

    With the non-retina iPad I found my eyes would et tired and I'd start to
    get a headache after a few hours of reading. No such problems with the
    retina one.
    What cost?
     
    Lewis, Aug 1, 2013
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    Brian Guest

    I would need to have a side by side comparison of both iPad models and most
    stores are likely to only stock the newest model of the iPad.
     
    Brian, Aug 1, 2013
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    Brian Guest

    Just recently while reading e-mail with the email program that came with
    the iPad 2 I mistook a 6 for a 4. The order number was in small print. I
    couldn't understand why they could not find my order when I phoned the
    company.
     
    Brian, Aug 1, 2013
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    David Taylor Guest

    So take a look on the Web first to find a store which has both....or I
    have an iPad-1 I could sell you!
     
    David Taylor, Aug 1, 2013
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  19. Not necessarily true. Both the 4th generation iPad and the iPad 2 are
    available for sale. So both should be stocked.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Aug 1, 2013
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    David Empson Guest

    When an app adds support for the retina display, any graphical objects
    within the app need to be duplicated, including both a normal resolution
    and an "@2x" retina resolution version of the graphical object.

    The same build of the app is used on both non-retina and retina devices,
    but only the appropriate graphical objects will be displayed. This means
    that every app which supports retina display (which is most of them by
    now, and is required for all new and updated apps) is wasting storage
    space on every device, because half of the graphical objects in the app
    will not be used on that particular device. The effect is worst for
    non-retina models, because the graphical objects for retina displays are
    four times larger than those for non-retina displays (due to having four
    times as many pixels in the same area).

    If the app is written to run natively on the iPhone and iPad, the
    wastage is even worse, because it may need to include four instances of
    each graphical object: for non-retina iPhones, retina iPhones,
    non-retina iPads and retina iPads. (Apps with separate versions for the
    iPhone and iPad avoid this problem.)

    In some cases, further graphical objects may be needed to support the
    different screen size of the iPhone 5.

    In a few years this should be less of a problem because a future iOS
    version will drop support for all older models which don't have a retina
    display, therefore apps which require that future iOS version will no
    longer need to include non-retina graphics.

    That can't happen as soon as iOS 7, because iOS 7 will support the iPad
    2 and iPad mini, which don't have a retina display. If an iPhone-only or
    iPad-only app is run on an iPad 2 or iPad mini, the non-retina graphics
    inside the app will be used.

    In theory, a universal (native on iPhone and iPad) app which required
    iOS 7 could drop the iPhone non-retina graphics, because iOS 7 doesn't
    run on any iPhone or iPod Touch models with a non-retina display, and
    the app will never display those graphical objects when running on an
    iPad. It would still need graphical objects for retina iPhone,
    non-retina iPad and retina iPad.
     
    David Empson, Aug 1, 2013
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