Yes I know its impossible as a quick search into computer forensics will show. However, I need to be able to show that I have made reasonable efforts to erase the contents of some pcs which are being sent for charitable recycling this coming week! I don't really want to stick nails through the HDs! This is for an organsation which qualifies as educational in, for instance, Ms's eyes. I don't want to pay 45$ per machine either! Is there a utility that others here use?