Cheapish bridging router?

Discussion in 'PC Technical Talk' started by Robin Faichney, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. I have a wired printer that I'd like to use wirelessly. From the web I
    gather the way to go is with a router that can be configured as a
    bridge (or in client mode?). Can anybody recommend such a router
    that's not too expensive? Also, does the other router have to be
    specially set up or does the one at the printer just look like any
    other wireless client to it?
     
    Robin Faichney, Aug 10, 2012
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    Mike Isaacs Guest

    I use a Q-Waves Wireless USB Data Kit to connect my PC to a USB printer
    across the room. It works seamlessly.

    The only problem may be in finding one on the market nowadays.

    HTH
     
    Mike Isaacs, Aug 10, 2012
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    Graham J Guest

    Presumably the printer has an Ethernet connection?

    If so, you require a wireless access point, configured as a client.

    E.G AP-700 Wireless Access Point from http://www.seg.co.uk/

    or, at the cheap end of the market:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/edim...-extender-and-access-point-with-5-port-switch

    First make sure your printer has a static IP address on your LAN, either
    by configuring it so, or by reservation in your DHCP server.

    Read the instructions for the wireless access point very carefully.

    Normally, they come out of the box with some arbitrary IP address.
    Connect it to a PC - and nothing else - and set the AP with an IP
    address on your LAN that is not otherwise used. Configure it with the
    correct security settings to communicate with your wireless router.
    Then from any PC on your LAN you should be able to ping the AP, and
    access its internal management page.

    Finally, connect the printer to the AP using an Ethernet cable - you
    should be able to ping the printer from any PC on your LAN, and access
    its internal management page if it has one.

    I repeat: Read the instructions for the wireless access point very
    carefully. Most people will fail to get the AP to work. Further, many
    APs do not give any indication as to the wireless signal quality - so if
    somebody walks past it might just stop working, and you will never know why.

    You might be better off using an "Ethernet over mains" solution.

    If your printer does not have an Ethernet connection you can get
    Ethernet to USB adapters - but the only one I've used came from Belkin
    and would not work with a Sharp printer - probably easiest to change the
    printer ...
     
    Graham J, Aug 10, 2012
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  4. Thanks Graham, this looks extremely useful. My first thought was that
    an access point would be the way to go but google results were all
    about routers in bridging mode. Yes, by saying "wired printer" I meant
    it has an Ethernet port, but that was obviously obscure. :) I'll
    report back on how I get on.
     
    Robin Faichney, Aug 10, 2012
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  5. Robin Faichney, Aug 10, 2012
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  6. Sorry, should have made it clearer that the printer has ethernet.
     
    Robin Faichney, Aug 10, 2012
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    Graham J Guest

    They have superficially the same functionality. The Edimax device has 5
    Ethernet connctions, so several devices could be connected - might be
    useful.
     
    Graham J, Aug 10, 2012
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  8. It (the Edimax) arrived today and I've just had a look at the manual.
    Not only is it the usual incompetent English, but flatly contradicts
    itself on a fundamental issue: how to connect to it for configuration.
    This is not with a direct connection, but with both AP and PC
    connected to a router. First it says the computer used must obtain its
    IP addr automatically, and if the IP is static then follow these
    instructions -- then the instructions following are for setting a
    static IP! I'll quote it here so you can see there's no mistake on my
    part:

    <quote>
    Before you can connect to the access point and start configuration
    procedures, your computer must be able to get an IP address
    automatically (use dynamic IP address). If it.s set to use static IP
    address, or you.re unsure, please follow the following instructions to
    configure your computer to use dynamic IP address: If the operating
    system of your computer is¡¦. Windows 95/98/Me - please go to section
    2-2-1 Windows 2000 - please go to section 2-2-2 Windows XP - please go
    to section 2-2-3 Windows Vista please go to section 2-2-4
    2-2-1 Windows 95/98/Me IP address setup
    1. Click .Start. button (it should be located at lower-left corner of
    your computer), then click control panel. Double-click Network icon,
    and Network window will appear. Select .TCP/IP., then click
    ..Properties..
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    2. Select .Specify an IP address., then input the following settings
    in respective field: IP address: 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask:
    255.255.255.0 click .OK. when finish.
    <unquote>

    How's that for incompetence? I'm going to knock it on the head for now
    or I'll be too aggravated to sleep tonight.
     
    Robin Faichney, Aug 14, 2012
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    Graham J Guest

    [snip]

    Some Edimax products have a DHCP server enabled out-of-the-box. Others
    have an arbitrary static IP address defined somewhere in the atrocious
    manual.

    Here I have two Ethernet over mains devices, one from Edimax, the other
    from Newlink. Plysically identical shape, different colour scheme.
    Internal web page layout looks the same apart from font and perhaps
    background colour.

    One has a DHCP server by default, the other not! Can't remember which,
    and a quick look at the enclosed "manual" doesn't help.

    Always start with just the AP and a PC connected together - nothing else.

    It's then the work of a moment to connect a PC and see if it gets an IP
    address. It doesn't take much longer to set a suitable static address -
    probably the most serious problem is finding the device's IP address in
    the manual - then finding the login name and password !!!!!

    The Vigor manual isn't actually muuch better - all in badly translated
    Taiwanese.

    I don't thnk I can ever remember finding a manual for a networking
    product that was nicely written in good English.
     
    Graham J, Aug 14, 2012
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  10. It's working! And with very little hassle indeed. Connected PC
    directly to AP, set static IP for PC as per manual (or part of it
    anyway), configured AP as "Station Infrastructure" with a Site Survey
    to identify existing wifi network, configured printer with static IP,
    connected printer to AP and viola! Can hardly believe it. Now
    convinced the only way to approach all such things is with the lowest
    possible expectations. Though to be honest I should probably have
    learned that years ago.
     
    Robin Faichney, Aug 15, 2012
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