Cheap video cards with Video IN

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by zalzon, Feb 1, 2004.

  1. zalzon

    zalzon Guest

    What is the cheapest video card which has Video IN ?

    I'd like to hook up an old VCR to the card and record shows on tapes
    to DVD.
     
    zalzon, Feb 1, 2004
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    Anon Guest

    Hauppauge Win-TV Go PCI TV tuner card or similar. -Dave
     
    Anon, Feb 1, 2004
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    Nil Einne Guest

    Why do you need a video card with video in? It sounds to me as if all
    you need is a video capture card since you already have a video
    card....... If this is indeed the case, then anything which captures
    unencoded video at sufficient res and full frame rate will do. Of
    course, bear in mind you're gonna need a lot of disk space.
    Alternatively, you could get a video capture + encoding card which
    does MPEG2 suitable for DVD. Double compression is bad idea so stay
    away from any card which can't do full rate but instead needs to do
    compression other then MPEG2 suitable for DVD.
     
    Nil Einne, Feb 2, 2004
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    zalzon Guest

    Hi,

    I am planning on getting a new computer. I will be getting a new
    graphics card with it... with a Video IN feature.

    What I want to do is to copy the contents of the many video cassettes
    I have onto DVD.

    I have a choice of the following graphics cards :

    ATI Radeon 9600 256M
    1) http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/9600.asp

    or

    Asus V9520VS 128M ( FX5200 )
    2) http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520vs/overview.htm


    With choice #1, it says VIVO "optional". What do they mean optional?
    Are they manufacturing some cards with VIVO and some cards without?
    Also how much disk space do I need for a 2 hour video?

    I've never captured video to DVD before but I assume the process is to
    copy the contents of the video cassette to HD and then encode/compress
    the video data to DVD. Is that right?

    Thanks
     
    zalzon, Feb 3, 2004
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    John Russell Guest

    Optional means exactly that. Most stores do not stock the VIVO cards if it's
    an option. You should check out the ASUS 9600xt/9800xt as these cards are
    vivo and only vivo, that's why they are more expensive as they don't have a
    cheaper non-vivo option.

    Capturing for DVD is most easily done using software designed for DVD
    production. These include a high quality MPEG2 codec which can capture
    directly to MPEG2 avoiding AVI's and recompressing. The most time consuming
    thing about preparing DVD's is recompressing. It's amazing how much time you
    save by working in the MPEG2 format you will use on the final DVD. You
    should also look out DVD authoring packages which also create DVD's without
    recompressing.

    I am currently using Ulead Videostudio and DVD Workshop as these both avoid
    recompressing.

    If you work in MPEG2 it's easy to work size's out as you know a recordable
    DVD is approx 4GB and will store about 2 hrs of good quality video. You need
    about 20GB of disk space to capture and edit video, and then create the DVD
    files for burning.
     
    John Russell, Feb 3, 2004
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    zalzon Guest

    THanks for your advice. Both card you mentioned ASUS 9600xt and
    9800xt are well out of my budget range. What do you think of the :

    Asus V9520VS 128M ( FX5200 )
    2) http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9520vs/overview.htm

    I'm not a professional videographer or whatever. I'd just like to
    capture decent quality video to DVD.

    It looks like lots of space (20GB !) is required so I'll size my hd
    purchase accordingly.
     
    zalzon, Feb 4, 2004
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    John Russell Guest

    I wouldn't be changing a card to anything which wasn't faster than the
    geforce4 family and DX9 complient, anything else is just false economy as it
    won't play the latest games. The 9600xt is not that expensive and not much
    more expensive than the non VIVO version such as the Saphire.

    The alternative is to get a video capture card or external USB2 (not USB1)
    capture device.
     
    John Russell, Feb 4, 2004
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    tweak Guest

    What you really need is a video capture card.
    A decent one can be had on e--bay for much less than a combo video
    card.
    I picked up a ATI 128 all-in-wonder for about 40 bucks.
    You don't even need one this fancy if all you want to do is capture tv
    quality video.
    640x480 29.9 fps is generally the defacto standard for regular
    television resolutions for digital video.
    You should be able to pick up a simple video capture card on e-bay for
    as little as 30 bucks.

    Here are some links to cards currently selling on e-bay.
    http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...dSort&ht=1&from=R7&query="video+capture+card"


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784216580&category=40160


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784127874&category=3761


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784554203&category=3762

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784065642&category=3763

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3456477361&category=3668
     
    tweak, Feb 4, 2004
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    Gary Tait Guest

    What one calls "Expensive" is relative. A given price for a product
    can be a drop in the bucket for some, or more than a few month's
    computer budget for other, especially for mid to high end graphics
    cards.
     
    Gary Tait, Feb 4, 2004
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    John Russell Guest

    With top end cards costing £300-£400 I consider the current mid range cards
    at £150 to be a bargain, especially now that they are at very least equal to
    Gf4 cards in Dx8. How they got away for so long selling mid range dx9 cards
    that where slower than gf4 in dx8 I shall never know.
     
    John Russell, Feb 5, 2004
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    zalzon Guest

    I'm not much of a gamer, really just need a card that can take video
    IN. If I didn't need video in, i'd be using a very low end budget
    card.

    I heard the Radeon 7200 (some version of it) had vivo. If I could buy
    a new card like that here, that would serve the purpose.

    I don't understand why ATI & NVIDIA make cards with a smattering of
    features like dual vga, dual dvi, digital vcr, tv out ..etc. and a
    host of other seemingly useless features...but not one budget card
    with video in.
     
    zalzon, Feb 5, 2004
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