Browser Market Share Vs Browser Usage Statistics

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Nathan, Jan 3, 2005.

  1. Nathan

    Nathan Guest

    Hello there,
    I was wondering if anyone could tell me the percentage of people who use
    internet explorer VS firefox/mozilla for example when searching for browser
    market share internet exploers stat is at 90% but when searing for browser
    statistics it is at 70%

    could someone please clear this up, i reckon its because that the browser
    market share is how many computers actually have internet explorer and
    browser usage statistics is actually how many people use a particular
    browser, because most people would ahve itnernet explorer installed right
    because most people run widow

    anyway thanks alot
    nathan
     
    Nathan, Jan 3, 2005
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  2. A recent count had firefox at over 10% and rising, of browsers in use.
    If you add straight mozilla then that would have to be considerably more?
    Just remember that the figures are skewed by non-Internet-Explorer users
    setting their web browsers as Internet Explorer so they can access web
    sites usually running a Microsoft server that is administered by an
    incompetent person who can't configure a website properly to allow other
    browsers (which are usually more secure) to access that site.
    For skewed statistics, go to a "Microsoft" based website and the stats will
    show a massive majority for "Internet Explorer", go to a "Linux" based
    web site and there will be a massive majority for "Non Internet Explorer"
    web browsers and I suppose go to a "Mac" site and "Safari" et al will be
    the most common.

    I use linux and often set my web browser to identify as something like
    "Windows 2000 with Internet Explorer 5.01", yeah right, but it works ;-)
    So there are several more supposed "IE" statistics for you :)

    As far as getting some definate figures?
    Good Luck!!
     
    Reality Strikes, Jan 3, 2005
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  3. Nathan

    Nathan Guest

    hi yeah i guess most statistics are bias

    but there must be a true soruce of statistics somewhere

    Nathan
     
    Nathan, Jan 3, 2005
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  4. Nathan

    Ernest Guest

    There are a lot of people using MSIE derivatives
    that are much more user friendly and secure than
    MSIE yet they show on the stats as MSIE. I use
    Avant, free and much more useful, and there are
    many others out there.

    The market share stats are more based on who
    sold or had downloaded copies of the software,
    whilst the usage stats are based on the browser
    type identified as when hitting web sites. The
    usage stats would show a higher level of non MSIE
    hits than the market share as many technically
    knowledgeable people will use almost anything
    other than MSIE to get the better security, and
    the people who worry about security most also
    do a lot more surfing that the casual users who
    don't care what browser they use.

    Deadly Ernest

    @bywater.net.au

    (my new keyboard, with small keys,
    accepts full responsibility for all
    typographical and spelling errors)
     
    Ernest, Jan 3, 2005
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  5. Nathan

    Rod Speed Guest

    No one can tell you, basically because its impossible to measure.

    You cant even use the data from particular web sites
    that keep track of what browsers are used on them,
    because the mix varys a lot with the particular web site.

    Even something like google isnt much use because some
    browsers like firefox dont work that well on the google site.

    And what does it matter anyway ?
     
    Rod Speed, Jan 3, 2005
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  6. Nathan

    Rod Speed Guest

    Nope, because its completely impossible to measure
    usage, particularly when some browsers are deliberately
    setup to lie about what browser they are.

    Its theoretically possible to work out what the browser
    actually is by testing known quirks of each browser,
    but even that only tells you about the mix that visit the
    particular site that is running that code.

    Browser type used has to vary a lot from type of site to type of
    site. You'll likely find less use of IE on the linux sites for example.
     
    Rod Speed, Jan 3, 2005
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  7. Nathan

    Rob Guest


    Yeah - 47.3% of all statistics are made up anyway.
     
    Rob, Jan 3, 2005
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  8. Nathan

    Nathan Guest

    hi there, yes i can understand your point that there can never be any real
    true statistics, but never the less, there are many 'pay for statistics'
    sites that are around so therefore many people may be paying for what is
    deamed to be true statistics,

    anyway that wasnt my real point for being interested in this discussion, i
    just wanted to know which browser was the most commonly used, cause like if
    you look at many computer magazines and internet magazines they just seem to
    be pulling statiscs out of the air
    nathan
     
    Nathan, Jan 4, 2005
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  9. Nathan

    Rod Speed Guest

    Those are only stats specific to the particular site paying for them.

    Not the general stats you were asking about.
    Not on that particular issue, what the browser
    really is rather than what its set to pretend to be.
    Thats IE by far, even if you're talking about what
    it really is rather than what its set to pretend to be.
    Yep, essentially because its not practical to measure it accurately.

    It isnt even practical to accurately measure what the browser
    is set to pretend to be accurately, because that varys a lot
    from site to site, most obviously with the linux sites for example.
     
    Rod Speed, Jan 4, 2005
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  10. Nathan

    Aussie Fred Guest

    The good thing about made up statistics is that its usually more accurate.
    Most made up statistics use one decimal place while real statistics do not
    use any.

    So if you want accurate results it appears common practice to make up the
    statistics.
     
    Aussie Fred, Jan 4, 2005
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