AT&T Locks Apple SIM Cards on new iPad Air 2 & iPad mini 3

Discussion in 'iPad' started by David Howard, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. David Howard

    David Howard Guest

    You *load* the maps while online.
    Then you *use* the maps, offline.
    Even if you use the maps online, it's my understanding that you use
    *less* of your free 200MB/month of data, since the maps are already there.

    The trick is to type "ok maps" in the Google Maps search window while
    online (or scroll to the bottom where it says load offline maps).

    I don't remember, but, you might have to log in (it has been a while
    since I did this because I kind of gave up having to reload them every 30
    days).

    That's why I use the free routing programs that load maps of the entire
    world, and which route offline without any problems.

    What Google Maps has over the free map programs, when offline, is ...
    uh ... nothing.

    But, when online, Google Maps has better traffic and more up to date POIs
    (which are important too).
     
    David Howard, Oct 30, 2014
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  2. David Howard

    David Howard Guest

    Unfortunately, while Navigator provides free maps of the entire world,
    and decent spoken routing directions, it is only on Android.

    On iOS, you pretty much have to spring for CoPilot or one of the other
    map routing freebies that don't speak without paying the price.
     
    David Howard, Oct 30, 2014
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  3. David Howard

    David Howard Guest

    Same with me.
     
    David Howard, Oct 30, 2014
  4. David Howard

    DevilsPGD Guest

    Yes. It's a cellular modem with a USB interface.
     
    DevilsPGD, Oct 30, 2014
  5. David Howard

    Guest Guest

    Guest, Oct 30, 2014
  6. David Howard

    Erilar Guest

    Oh, I could use the old Maps on my first iPad that way. Useless at any
    distance. That's when I went looking for map apps I could really use off
    line.
     
    Erilar, Oct 30, 2014
  7. David Howard

    Erilar Guest

    Tried, got nothing, had to call, with incredibly frustrating "results".
     
    Erilar, Oct 30, 2014
  8. David Howard

    David Howard Guest

    The iPad is limited compared to Android when it comes to free roadmap
    apps (the goal being the following basics):

    1. Accurate roadmaps & point-to-point directions & routing
    2. Spoken directions (eg turn left)
    3. Spoken roadnames (eg turn left onto main street)
    4. Accurate address lookup
    5. Accurate POIs
    6. All of which work offline (and are all free)

    On Android, I've tested perhaps a dozen apps, but, for a variety of
    reasons, I've settled with a one-two punch of Navigator & Copilot.

    Navigator has the spoken directions, while Copilot freeware has
    the accurate POIs and address lookup. (The Copilot payware does both.)

    Unfortunately, Navigator isn't on iOS, but CoPilot is (in a slightly
    different incarnation than on Android), so, my number two is a distant
    second with Be-On-Road, with a distant third being MapsWithMe.

    When online, it's hard to beat Google Maps though; but, to rely on
    your cellular is to eventually get lost, so, everyone should explore
    the backups above, for safety and convenience while traveling.
     
    David Howard, Oct 31, 2014
  9. David Howard

    Rod Speed Guest

    That last makes no sense when the best of the free ones, maps.google
    works so well and doesn’t use enough data to matter when you have
    enough of a clue to use a cheap data provider. Mine costs me just 5c
    per navigation and its only that high because that is the minimum
    charge for 1MB of data.
    I prefer to have everything in the one app.
    And to use what works across all my devices I ever use for navigation too.
    And that alone is a damned nuisance.
    Makes more sense to get a cheap data provider and use Google Maps.
    Yep, the street view and traffic leave the rest for dead.
    Bullshit. I don’t even get lost even without a phone at all,
    I just don’t always end up moving quite as efficiently as
    when I use the phone, because it isnt always easy to
    work out whether a particular track or road will get
    you where you want to go in advance without it.
    No thanks. I already have a backup on the iphone, apple
    maps, which I hardly ever need to use because of a problem
    with google maps and even if the phone dies or the battery
    runs out, I will do fine, just not always as efficiently and I
    don’t have a proper record of my exercise when walking.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 31, 2014
  10. David Howard

    David Taylor Guest

    On 31/10/2014 03:50, David Howard wrote:
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    I've been very pleased with Map.Me (was MapsWithMe) on both iOS and Android.
     
    David Taylor, Oct 31, 2014
  11. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    Cellular or wifi? I never use cellular for anything except actual voice
    calls, but I can update the maps via my home wifi connection.
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  12. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    They give you your own number. Before that you could use your google
    number. You also have to remember to always give the area code even if
    you're making a "local" call.
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  13. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    Maybe it depends on street density. Then again, maybe I'm wrong. It's
    been a while...
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  14. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    I think so too, but perhaps they can't tell.
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  15. David Howard

    Guest Guest

    definitely not, since at least for me, it's a major city.
     
    Guest, Oct 31, 2014
  16. David Howard

    Guest Guest

    they can.
     
    Guest, Oct 31, 2014
  17. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    Coverage is good in cities and along interstates, but that's about it.
    The coverage map used to be more detailed than it is now. With my
    previous phone (Nokia flip-phone of some sort) I had to walk in front of
    my neighbor's house to get signal because there was a building of some
    sort between me and the tower. I couldn't see it from there, but it
    made a big difference. The BLU phone has no problem.

    I can't get signal on the ski slope at Big Bear, Calif, but my friend
    with Verizon can; I have to actually go down into the town before I can
    make a call.

    OTOH, I'm paying $10/year. If I really needed the phone I'd choose Verizon.
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  18. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    FWIW, regular pre-paid T-Mobile SIM cards are locked to the phone
    number. A friend gave my husband one with $95 worth of time on it,
    which has now been in three phones, all with the same number.

    Would a data SIM have any reason to be locked to anything?
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  19. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    Not a clue. I would think that a USB data stick is also known as a
    thumb drive or a flash drive and just holds data. Sometimes they can
    hold an operating system which will allow you to boot a computer that
    allows you to boot from a flash drive.

    You can also get USB wifi gizmos for computers with no or inadequate
    wifi capability.
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
  20. David Howard

    The Real Bev Guest

    AT&T will take any opportunity at all to take extra money without
    providing extra service. I really despise them.

    "We don't have to care. We're the Telephone Company."
     
    The Real Bev, Oct 31, 2014
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