Apple sued for shrinking storage space on 16GB devices thanks toiOS 8

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Whitney Ryan, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. Whitney Ryan

    Guest Guest

    what's to guess? that's what he said:
    no it didn't.
    Guest, Jan 9, 2015
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  2. Meanwhile back in reality it did on my iPod touch over and over and over
    for the year I had it before iOS 8, over three models - original
    replaced for a defective facetime camera, and the second replaced for a
    lightning port that would no longer charge, and the third still running

    Ah, reality. It's real, and not delusion. I prefer it. Others don't and
    have to try to validate their life by insisting everyone else's was the
    same - weird.
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
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  3. Whitney Ryan

    Guest Guest

    not by itself it didn't. if only it were that easy. thugs would have
    had a field day.
    Guest, Jan 9, 2015
  4. Ah, another denier of reality who can't handle experiences of others
    being different from their own. Or possibly denying their own
    experiences in a super fan boy Apple can do no wrong delusionary
    state... <- the first specific
    thread I can find in google results. I'm sure there are better ones, but
    you learn to google yourself. <- just about the largest
    omnibus 'iCloud services turning off on it's own' thread I can find in
    under five seconds searching. Again - feel free to spend more time
    searching for better results. But these are adequate to refuting your
    denial of reality.

    It's staggering that even after Apple's huge resurgence and success in
    the 21st century, there are still those so deeply insecure they cannot
    handle bad things being said about Apple. Their insecurity with their
    technology choices must be so vast, even Apple's amazing rise to the top
    can't fill the void that is these Apple fan boy's lack of self esteem.
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  5. Whitney Ryan

    Lewis Guest

    Yes, I can see how "find my iPhone" would confuse your weak brain.
    Lewis, Jan 9, 2015
  6. Whitney Ryan

    Lewis Guest

    Trouble is, you're lying. That is to say, I do not believe you for a
    moment. I have *many* ios devices. Far more than you. I am also
    responsible for quite a few more. What you are claiming happened to you
    three times never happened on dozens of devices, so either you are the
    world's unluckiest iOS user, or you are a liar.
    You should check it out sometime.
    Lewis, Jan 9, 2015
  7. Whitney Ryan

    BobbyK Guest

    The irony bell has now pealed loudly.
    BobbyK, Jan 9, 2015
  8. How is that? I was right. I proved it. Lewis and pals have made fools of
    themselves. Well unless you're the type to hang onto belief no matter
    reality, in which case - sure, I was wrong, magically my folder full of
    AppleCare communications and the numerous Apple forum and third party
    threads on the issue all don't exist. Because... magic! Tah dah! :-D

    I'll say again - given Apple's meteoric rise from near death to the king
    of the consumer tech hill, isn't it time the Super Deranged Apple Fan
    Boys built up enough self esteem to deal with Apple products not being

    Not that you super fan boys will be mature enough, but perhaps you ought
    to take such rabid defence of a 'poor oppressed' super profitable, super
    large, super successful company to the seething cesspit that is
    comp.sys.mac.advocacy? I've not been in there for 62 months (excepting
    crossposted threads), and I have no plans to return in the future. But
    hey - assuming it's just as foaming at the mouth insane as it was back
    in the day, it'll be right up your alley!

    I mean seriously - even in the late 90's in the saner comp.sys.mac
    groups, I don't recall such irrational denial of flaws in Apple
    products. I was a fan boy back then, but I still acknowledged the
    reality that the pre-Steve Jobs return Macs had become really rather
    crappy, extension conflict hell with instability and outright crashing
    if you installed too much software that relied on extensions and control
    panels, and my beloved Steve Jobs era CRT iMac had a nasty habit of the
    video burning out within a few years - just to give a few of many
    examples of less than stellar Apple experiences.

    But I still loved Apple Macs at the time (I'm less enthused nowadays,
    but still prefer OS X to Windows 7, and way more than Win8), given the
    other choices. I defended Apple plenty of times. But I did not have to
    resort to lying and reality denial to do so.

    Well, anyway. My words are probably wasted. Nonetheless: a) get a life,
    and b) **** you.

    Jamie Kahn Genet
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  9. Whitney Ryan

    BobbyK Guest

    LOL. You need help.
    BobbyK, Jan 9, 2015
  10. That thread alone reached 27 pages spanning Sep 20, 2013 to Sep 12,
    2014. And while I think it was one of the largest I ever found during my
    year of iCloud hell, it was just one of many.

    Basically it boiled down to iCloud services being turned off by iOS 7 on
    it's own, and resulting local data loss till they were re-enabled and
    data was re-synced. Also a related symptom of being asked for one's
    iCloud password frequently and at times when iOS should have just been
    using the password already given and saved (i.e. when iOS was simply
    accessing app data stored on iCloud).

    A suspect (from the not always reliable Apple and third party support
    forum groupthink) when I still had the enthusiasm to try to
    troubleshoot, was RAM hungry apps running in iOS 7 on devices like the
    iPod touch and older iPhone and iPad models with less RAM, causing
    iCloud to spit the dummy.

    But I don't really care any more. I wasted too much time on a problem
    Apple never fully addressed or seemed to understand (at least at the
    support level). I'm just happy, though somewhat bitter, that iOS 8 fixed
    the effing issue a year later.

    But I freely admit my blood boiled yesterday when areswipes like Lewis
    had the effrontery to tell me I'd imagined all of 2014 - what fucking
    arrogant cunts, if you'll pardon my French. I know I shouldn't let them
    get under my skin and it's a personal failing that I do, but man - my
    2015 New Year's wish - if you will - is that they suffer similar
    misadventures (though I doubt they'd ever have the honesty to admit it).
    That would be so sweet - I'd just laugh and laugh and laugh and have no
    sympathy whatsoever.
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  11. I'm not the immature troll. *plonk*
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  12. Whitney Ryan

    Your Name Guest

    There's a few morons around here that blindly beleive what they and
    their five geeky friends do is exactly what everyone does and / or
    shold do. They have absolutely no clue what actually happens in the
    real world with real Mac or iOS users. It's best just to killfile the
    morons and let them continue to keep their tiny brains blinkeredly and
    ignorantly happy in their fallacy-filled, insular little lives.
    Your Name, Jan 9, 2015
  13. Whitney Ryan

    BobbyK Guest

    Nope. You're the overstating, hyper-verbose madman. :)

    P.S. Most who say *plonk* don't follow through and can't wait to see
    a response.
    BobbyK, Jan 9, 2015
  14. Yeah I know. I get suckered in.
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  15. Not that AppleCare ever acknowedged it, but the steady lessing of
    symptoms in the later half of 2014 and then the resolution in iOS 8
    tells me Apple Engineering were aware of it, even if they could not seem
    to communicate this to AppleCare.
    Ah, that would affect my grandmother if she wasn't still happy with
    10.7. She's a huge fan of iPhoto slideshows as her screensaver.
    Sometimes she just leaves her Mac alone till the screensaver activates,
    just to look at them, heh. I have shown her how to play slideshows
    inside iPhoto, but heh, she still waits for the screensaver :)
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 9, 2015
  16. Whitney Ryan

    Lewis Guest

    No, but it is not 12 devices, it is rather more than that. Note the
    That it happened on three consecutive devices? yes, I feel that is a
    No oops about it. I never said that it was impossible or that it never
    happens. I said that his claim that it happened on three consecutive
    devices was, in my opinion, a lie. I did not believe it. I do not
    believe it now.
    It may be, but I also have seen him make many many claims of all sorts
    of exceedingly unlikely things that he claims happened to him. I don't
    believe him. I think he is a liar and a troll.
    Lewis, Jan 10, 2015
  17. Whitney Ryan

    Lewis Guest

    That is not at all what I said. I said you were lying about your
    experience with the issue. I believe that you were and are lying about
    your experience with the issue. I believe that you have lied many times
    about your experience with a wide variety of issues.
    Nothing arrogant about holding the opinion, after several years, that you
    are a liar and a troll.
    Oh, there are many odd things and bugs and issues that everyone runs
    into. Generally small niggling things (like, for example, iterm refuses
    to show a title bar on the window, or how screen rotation lock works
    differently (and inferiorly) in iOS 8 over iOS 7.
    It's comments like that that fortify my position that you are a constant
    Wow, that hurts. That really hurts. No sympathy? None whatsoever? Say it
    ain't so, Joe, say it ain't so!

    Lewis, Jan 10, 2015
  18. That's not true. I said I'd stop replying to trolls like Lewis many
    times over the years, and I keep breaking my word :-D
    I can only imagine Lewis must believe I get my jolies hassling AppleCare
    about issues I apparently have not suffered, given my earlier screenshot
    proof on contact on the issue. I can assure him given the hundreds of
    games I have in the house (not even counting all the downloaded software
    I have, including many hundreds more old games I run under emulation),
    I've better things to do sitting at my desk, heh.

    But I suppose he wants to believe what he believes, and this is some way
    he can 'rationalise' away people having issues with his beloved Apple.
    They don't really exist! Everyone's a liar! Or perhaps his mania is
    focused only on me, in which case boy do I feel special :-D
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 11, 2015
  19. It's funny - I can think of regulars here who have been far more vocal
    with their Apple issues over the years than I. I wonder why Lewis seems
    to have latched onto me with an almost religious level of zeal in his

    This isn't the beginning. He became unglued years ago when I was posting
    about my issues with my new - at the time - mid-2007 24" iMac and
    Long story short(er): I received a model that crashed hard as soon as I
    opened System preferences, even after a wipe and reinstall of OS X. So
    it was declared DOA by AppleCare the same day I got it, and returned.

    Then I had a horrible time with many Leopard bugs and instabilities,
    including (but far from limited to) a highly annoying one where Spaces
    would activate when I never wanted them too, graphical Dock corruption,
    and the system crashing because the GPU's fans were not properly
    controlling the heat from playing graphically intensive games like WoW.
    But the very worst issue was my iMac would hang at the blue screen with
    the spinning progress indicator most times I tried to restart or shut
    down my Mac, which made the frequent software updates to early Leopard
    hell, in particular. This lead to the second replacement which
    unsurprisingly sorted nothing.

    In the end after months more complaining to Apple, they replaced my iMac
    a third time unwilling to admit it was Leopard that was a piece of shit,
    but it was later updates to Leopard and then upgrading to Snow Leopard
    that finally sorted all the really annoying issues.

    I would suggest it was the parallel between my bad experience with my
    mid-2007 iMac and 5th gen. iPod touch bought in 2013 that has set Lewis'
    mania off. But in fact he was calling me a liar and frothing at the
    mouth back in 2007-2008 over my posts about my iMac/Leopard issues.

    Something about my bad experiences seems to set him off. I wonder what
    it is? He apparently just cannot handle my having had lemons from Apple
    :-D I'll be first to admit I feel I've had worst luck than most, but
    after my lime green Rev c CRT iMac suffered the common video failure
    (the video circuitry would burn out for many users - in my case with a
    bang. I recall Totally Mac - a Mac place here in NZ - telling me they
    had a room full of CRT iMacs with dead video) a couple years after being
    bought in 1999, it ran fine with replacement motherboard (the video
    being on the motherboard) till - 2008? 2009? I think it was, when it
    started suffering hard crashes and the screen became really dim.

    Then there's my iPod classic 160GB model - still running fine eight
    years later, though of course the battery no longer hold a charge. But
    that's totally expected, and I now use it to share my music and podcasts
    between OS X and Windows when I dual boot.

    My clip style iPod shuffle bought in 2007 lasted right up to this year
    when it died. I think in it's case that may have been my fault from
    wearing it while sweating heavily at the gym, and my not being very
    careful with such an old cheap iPod.

    I still have a Quadra 700 that goes, but only being the case and CPU
    it's essentially useless to me now (the HD is dead and it only has the
    stock 4MB of RAM. I bought it condition unknown back in the mid-2000's,
    so at least it hadn't been stripped for parts). But last year I hooked
    up an old - still working - AppleVision monitor after finally getting
    around to locating the right adaptor, and found a working floppy. I was
    as surprised as the next guy when it booted and ran.

    Up till about 2006 I think, I still had a secondhand working PowerBook

    Then there's the dozen or so old Apple mice and KBs still working,
    stored in my back room.

    My point being - I've probably had more than my share of bad luck, but
    I've had plenty of good experiences too. More than I can be bothered to
    relate in the one post, or remember this early in the morning, for that

    But rabid Apple fan boys like Lewis cannot put such history into
    perspective. It's sad and more than a little pathetic.

    And **** - I've just spent way too much time engaging with his deranged
    mind than I'd planned to. Uggg. This really just began as a simple ****
    you and *plonk* email, and spun out of control :-D

    So Lewis - **** you very much you sad little ****, and what I should
    have done years ago: *PLONK!*
    Jamie Kahn Genet, Jan 11, 2015
  20. Whitney Ryan

    Lewis Guest

    Really? What sort of troll do you think I am?

    Considering that 9 times out of 10, at least, we're on the same side of
    whatever argument there is...

    Yes, I admit I don't like Jamie and I don't believe Jamie and that has
    been the case for many years. Had you said you had a device that
    spontaneously turned off find-my iPhone and that two repalcement devices
    did the same thing, I'd believe you. I'd believe Michelle. I'd probably
    even believe nospam because that is not the sort of thing he lies about.

    But I don't believe JK.
    Lewis, Jan 11, 2015
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