Advice on building my own computer

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Andy in NJ, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. Andy in NJ

    Andy in NJ Guest

    I am in the market to do a little upgrading of my computer and I was
    wondering if I could get some advice. A reply directly to my email would be
    prefered, but you can reply here if you want.

    I have $500 to spend. I want to get a new case, motherboard, CPU and memory
    (1 gig). Everything else is ok and doesn't need to be replaced. I don't know
    exactly what I want at this point, but what would you recommend based on
    that budget and knowing which items I need to buy?
     
    Andy in NJ, Jan 7, 2005
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  2. Andy in NJ

    Jan Alter Guest

    You say
    Can you give some more information to your needs? Are you a gamer? Will you
    be doing video editing, DVD burning, general computing, RAID, need a
    firewire port, etc? The more folks understand those needs the better they
    can give you solid and specific advice. Do you have a preference for AMD or
    Intel? What speed CPU were you thinking of in either of these two
    categories?
     
    Jan Alter, Jan 7, 2005
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  3. Andy in NJ

    Andy in NJ Guest

    I mostly play games and surf the net. I am looking for the fastest, most
    stable MB/CPU/Memory combination for the money. I have no preference between
    AMD or Intel, although AMD is what I've been using for years, mainly because
    of price. I'd like something at least 2 gigs+.
     
    Andy in NJ, Jan 7, 2005
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  4. Andy in NJ

    kony Guest

    Surfing/office/email/etc is easily done with anything
    semi-modern. Since you made no mention of the video card,
    which will typically be the largest performance difference
    for gaming, shall we presume you already have a suitable
    card? If so, you must take it's interface into
    consideration. That is, if it's AGP based then you'll want
    a motherboard with AGP too.

    $500 might be cutting it tight for a 2GHz CPU, unless you
    meant only a P4, which will be substantially slower than an
    Athlon @ 2GHz. You might be able to get something like,

    $150 Athlon64 3000+ 939 (1.8GHz)
    $100 nForce3 or Via K8T800 based m'board (pick features)
    $150 2 x 512MB PC3200 (name-brand budget-grade)
    $70 Case, power (subject to taste, Antec is often good)
     
    kony, Jan 7, 2005
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  5. lol...you won't get anything much good for $500, maybe add another $200 to
    that and you'll have something just about ok.
     
    Richard Dower, Jan 7, 2005
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  6. Andy in NJ

    Al Dykes Guest


    If all you are doing is email, internet browsing and audio multimedia
    a midrange machine is fine. You don't need more than 256MB of memory
    unless you can name the software application you use, to justify it.

    A year ago I priced the parts for business-grade white box systems on
    newegg.com. All the parts came to $300. All name-brand good parts.
    Here's what it included;

    Midrange AMD CPU
    ASUS mobo with on-board video/LAN/sound
    Case/PSU
    256MB memory
    Good 40GB disk
    Floppy
    CD burner & burning software

    NO OS (add $90 for XP/Home)

    You already have monitor/kbd/mouse. You _may_ have OS software.
     
    Al Dykes, Jan 7, 2005
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  7. Andy in NJ

    Dee Guest

    And what exactly is wrong with the recommendation in the post just
    before yours?

    Surfing/office/email/etc is easily done with anything
    semi-modern. Since you made no mention of the video card,
    which will typically be the largest performance difference
    for gaming, shall we presume you already have a suitable
    card? If so, you must take it's interface into
    consideration. That is, if it's AGP based then you'll want
    a motherboard with AGP too.

    $500 might be cutting it tight for a 2GHz CPU, unless you
    meant only a P4, which will be substantially slower than an
    Athlon @ 2GHz. You might be able to get something like,

    $150 Athlon64 3000+ 939 (1.8GHz)
    $100 nForce3 or Via K8T800 based m'board (pick features)
    $150 2 x 512MB PC3200 (name-brand budget-grade)
    $70 Case, power (subject to taste, Antec is often good)
     
    Dee, Jan 7, 2005
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  8. Andy in NJ

    Mac Cool Guest

    Andy in NJ:
    new case
    $91 Antec Black with 350W PS
    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140033

    motherboard
    $129 Epox 9NDA3+
    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?DEPA=0&description=13-123-
    222

    CPU
    $146 Athlon 64 3000+
    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80699-R

    memory (1 gig)
    $142 Mushkin PC3200
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-299

    TOTAL $508 shipped
    It's so easy to spend other people's money ;)
     
    Mac Cool, Jan 7, 2005
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  9. Here's a great site that will help you to make up your mind:

    http://arstechnica.com/guides.ars
     
    ToolPackinMama, Jan 7, 2005
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  10. Andy in NJ

    JAD Guest

    << I mostly play games and surf the net. I am looking for the fastest,
    most
    << stable MB/CPU/Memory combination for the money



    the other posts say nothing of gaming......which will change the price
    tag in a hefty way. What games?, pacman? no worries....SOF? well then
    that's a horse of a different color.
     
    JAD, Jan 7, 2005
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  11. Andy in NJ

    Duddits Guest

    AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (socket 939) $165.00
    Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 $28.00
    MSI K8N NEO Platinum $148.00
    Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 512MBx2 DDR PC-3200 $140.00
    Antec SLK3700 BQE $73.00

    $554.00
    All prices from www.NewEgg.com

    regards

    Dud
     
    Duddits, Jan 7, 2005
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  12. Andy in NJ

    Doug Guest

    Asus P4P800 $70 US
    Intel 3.0 800 FSB $185 US
    Kingston Dual Channel Matched 512 MB PC3200 $140 US

    Should be able to afford graphics card if needed for just a bit more:
    Asus GeForce 4 128MB GDDR3 GT6600 about $200 US

    Everything seems to be going for PCI Express, and with the Socket 775, but
    I'd wait on them to perfect these things a little before forking out the
    dough. The system above would be solid for years to come till you decided
    for another upgrade.

    For high end gaming and video apps, this would be more then enough for quite
    some time.

    Regards,

    Doug
     
    Doug, Jan 7, 2005
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  13. Andy in NJ

    jacoby Guest

    There you go. That would be the deal. I have been using the Mushkin memory
    in my 1 gig builds. Nice bang for the buck. Way to shop, Max.
     
    jacoby, Jan 7, 2005
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  14. Andy in NJ

    Mac Cool Guest

    jacoby:
    I haven't tried the inexpensive Mushkin stuff that Newegg sells, but their
    premium stuff is as good as any and better than most. Hell of a company
    too... the *best* customer service of any online company I've dealt with.

    The guy mentioned gaming, hopefully he has a nice video card already or he
    will have to scale back to something like an XP2500.
     
    Mac Cool, Jan 7, 2005
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  15. Andy in NJ

    Mac Cool Guest

    JAD:
    camo?
     
    Mac Cool, Jan 7, 2005
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  16. Andy in NJ

    Andy in NJ Guest

    Like I said, all I need is the box/power supply, mobo, cpu and memory. I
    have everything else. I primarily use my computer for gaming and I want to
    upgrade from my current AMD Athlon XP running at 1.15gig (can't get the bus
    speed over 100mhz but that's a whole 'nuther thread) on a Biostar M7VIG Pro
    mobo and 1 gig of SDRAM.
     
    Andy in NJ, Jan 8, 2005
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  17. Andy in NJ

    Andy in NJ Guest

    Thanks for the reply. I will save this one to consider.
     
    Andy in NJ, Jan 8, 2005
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  18. Andy in NJ

    Andy in NJ Guest

    What I use the computer for is pretty irrelivant. Obviously, I want to get
    the best bang for my $500. To me, this means the fastest mobo/cpu/memory
    combination for the money. I already have the video/sound/harddrive, etc...
    that I need.
     
    Andy in NJ, Jan 8, 2005
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  19. Andy in NJ

    JAD Guest

    I see, so with your thinking I should buy a $2000 machine for email
    or $400 machine to do video editing or play current games. Although
    you did say you were keeping your video card you never mentioned what
    it was, Its not a one size fits all world. 'Use' is hardly
    irrelevant.

    carry on wayward son
     
    JAD, Jan 8, 2005
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  20. Andy in NJ

    Mac Cool Guest

    Andy in NJ:
    Forgot to mention that I think this motherboard will be good for
    overclocking if you want to go that way.
     
    Mac Cool, Jan 8, 2005
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