ADSL Demand Register

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Geoffw, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. Geoffw

    Geoffw Guest

    after advice

    to get on the register do I actually have to approach an
    adsl provider and "sign-up" get rejected as the exchange is
    not enabaled and then allow the provider to place my details
    on the register ?

    Is there anywhere I can go, provide the details and then
    get.

    Probably straight forward but I can't see any clear
    directions anywhere.

    I can't see the point in hassling a provider when I know at
    this time I cannot get adsl

    thanks

    Geoff
     
    Geoffw, Oct 23, 2003
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  2. Geoffw

    Rod Speed Guest

    http://www.telstra.com.au/adsl/ordering/search.cfm
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 23, 2003
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  3. Geoffw

    Geoffw Guest

    thanks Rod

    I had actually been thru that process but there was nothing
    that indicated it would end up on the demand register, Iinet
    provided a link directly to the exchange list in the
    register.

    I would have thought after the number check they could have
    made reference to the demand register and that by filling in
    the form your registration would be placed on it

    They may have done it but it is still confusing to us IT
    illiterate aka "me"

    Geoff
     
    Geoffw, Oct 24, 2003
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  4. Geoffw

    Rod Speed Guest

    Didnt you get a page that has a large blue
    Register your interest here
    in the middle of the page ?

    I just tried it with a number I know cant currently have
    adsl and got that and when I clicked on it, got a full
    page of waffle about protecting your privacy etc.
    Thats exactly what they have.

    Maybe it was down or something, try again.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 24, 2003
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  5. Geoffw

    Geoffw Guest

    yes got this

    while it mentions the register it does not say that by
    entering details that I will be olaced on the register,
    Ithought it implied that I was registering interest only -
    anyway form what you have said I am on the demand register

    Iinet just referred me to their "checker" page that it just
    reports that the number is not suitable for adsl, I will
    assume that it does end up on the register, as it is highly
    unlikely that the telegraph point exchange will ever get
    adsl..............

    thanks again

    Geoff
     
    Geoffw, Oct 24, 2003
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  6. Geoffw

    plato Guest

    This url only advises if your exchange supports adsl, it doesn't let you
    know if it is available for your phone or not and nor is there any provision
    to get on any 'demand register'.... sorry Rod, bad reply.
     
    plato, Oct 24, 2003
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  7. Geoffw

    Codswallop Guest

    The only way you can find out if ADSL is available on your telephone is
    by applying.

    Everyone -- and I do mean /everyone/ -- simply checks to see if your
    exchange supports ADSL until you actually submit an application.
     
    Codswallop, Oct 24, 2003
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  8. Geoffw

    Rod Speed Guest

    Wrong. As always.
    Wrong. As always.
    Wrong. As always.
    Not a fucking clue. As always.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 24, 2003
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  9. Geoffw

    Rod Speed Guest

    Wrong. Try a number known to be off a RIM and you will
    find that the Telstra check tells you you cant have adsl.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 24, 2003
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  10. Geoffw

    Phred Guest

    The main "Demand Register" seems to be at
    <http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/index.cfm>

    Which has an interesting link to "View all exchanges" at
    <http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/list.cfm>

    There has been some local publicity for Telstra broadband in the local
    rags this past week or so as a result of a PR push by Telstra Country
    Wide.

    Seems the idea is that you register your interest in a broadband
    connection. Then, for exchanges that currently *do not* have ADSL,
    once 60 people on that exchange register interest, Telstra will do a
    study to determine the commercial threshhold for implementing ADSL on
    that exchange.

    Follow that okay? :) IOW they won't be doing anything until it looks
    like it *might* be viable; then they mightn't do anything anyway. And
    60 starters seems to be the very minimum before they can be bothered
    looking. [Where they have bothered to put a value for "Required
    Interest" in their list so far, it's either 150 (mostly) or 225 (a
    few) on the couple of pages I checked out.]

    Oh, and cop this bit from the exchanges listing pages:
    <quoting>
    Please note:
    This table may not show any expressions of interest for ADSL for your
    exchange initially. We will progressively be updating this new
    register with expressions of interest. Customers who have lodged an
    expression of interest in ADSL, prior to July 2 2003, should register
    again. You may be contacted via e-mail by your preferred ADSL Internet
    provider to confirm this.
    </quoting>

    Got that? If you did it before, you may need to do it again.


    Cheers, Phred.
     
    Phred, Oct 25, 2003
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  11. ...
    Which is fair enough.
    Probably a exchange based miniMUX.
    Probably a full CMUX.
    It's looking like all the previous Bigpond expressions of
    interest were either dumped, or weren't even kept in the
    first place.
     
    Magilla Guerilla, Oct 25, 2003
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  12. It was a dark and stormy night, and Phred managed to scribble:
    Last time I phoned Telstra I called them hillbillies.
    I was right!

    gtoomey
     
    Gregory Toomey, Oct 25, 2003
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  13. Geoffw

    John G Guest

    For the Pendle Hill (Sydney) exchange the search site below says Sorry and
    the other 2 sites say Pendle Hill is enabled but there is no registered
    interest.
    I have not moved to my new hous there yet so what do I believe??
    --
    John G

    Wot's Your Real Problem?

     
    John G, Oct 26, 2003
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  14. Why waste millions of dollars in rolling out something
    that will, most likely, be under-utilised?
     
    Magilla Guerilla, Oct 26, 2003
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  15. ...
    Because as it's already ADSL enabled there's no need for
    expressions of interest.
    It's ADSL enabled but are you sure that's really the
    exchange you'll be connected to?

    And even though the exchange is enabled it doesn't mean
    that your future phone line will be able to support it.
     
    Magilla Guerilla, Oct 26, 2003
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  16. Geoffw

    John G Guest

    I understand all that about line support and it was the Telstra site that
    told me it was Pendle Hill.
    How else would I know?
    But really my main point was one Telstra site takes the number and comes
    back with "Sorry" while the other test site says it is OK.
     
    John G, Oct 26, 2003
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  17. ...
    Fair enough.
    http://www.telstra.com.au/adsl/ordering/search.cfm

    In order to apply for ADSL, you must first check that
    your telephone line and exchange can support ADSL.


    http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/index.cfm

    It's not OK. It just says that your exchange is enabled.

    Obviously there's a problem with the line.
     
    Magilla Guerilla, Oct 26, 2003
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  18. There is no need for a ADSL demand register. Roddles say that ADSL is
    available to everyone already.
     
    Axel Van Kampen, Oct 26, 2003
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  19. Geoffw

    Geoffw Guest

    I don't claim to know but I thought it would have been
    relatively easy placing an expression of interest from the
    number checking page to have those details put straight into
    the demand register ?

    Perhaps Telstra do not want it to be this simple, far better
    to make it confusing so that hundreds of exchanges don't
    start showing as being needed / wanted as adsl exchanges

    You only need to look at the exchange list to realise how
    many exchanges will never be enabled, as you skip through
    the pages of exchanges the "exchange enabled" words don't
    come up very often.

    all a bit of a political bullshit con if you ask me ........

    Geoff
     
    Geoffw, Oct 26, 2003
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  20. Geoffw

    Rod Speed Guest

    The trouble with that approach is that would be FAR too
    easy to flagrantly abuse. Discover that your exchange or
    RIM doesnt support adsl, use one of the phone books
    with number lookup to find others on the same exchange
    or RIM and just punch their numbers into that form so
    it looks like there is enough demand to justify adsl.
    Mindless conspiracy theory.
    Thats just because that list is JUST exchanges that either
    dont have adsl enabled or have run out of adsl line capacity.
    There aint that many that have run out of adsl line capacity.
    No one did ask you. You're obviously
    into mindless conspiracy theorys.

     
    Rod Speed, Oct 26, 2003
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