ADSL Demand Register

after advice

to get on the register do I actually have to approach an
adsl provider and "sign-up" get rejected as the exchange is
not enabaled and then allow the provider to place my details
on the register ?

Is there anywhere I can go, provide the details and then
get.

Probably straight forward but I can't see any clear
directions anywhere.

I can't see the point in hassling a provider when I know at
this time I cannot get adsl

thanks

Geoff

 

http://www.telstra.com.au/adsl/ordering/search.cfm

 

thanks Rod

I had actually been thru that process but there was nothing
that indicated it would end up on the demand register, Iinet
provided a link directly to the exchange list in the
register.

I would have thought after the number check they could have
made reference to the demand register and that by filling in
the form your registration would be placed on it

They may have done it but it is still confusing to us IT
illiterate aka "me"

Geoff

 

Didnt you get a page that has a large blue
Register your interest here
in the middle of the page ?

I just tried it with a number I know cant currently have
adsl and got that and when I clicked on it, got a full
page of waffle about protecting your privacy etc.

Thats exactly what they have.

Maybe it was down or something, try again.

 

yes got this

while it mentions the register it does not say that by
entering details that I will be olaced on the register,
Ithought it implied that I was registering interest only -
anyway form what you have said I am on the demand register

Iinet just referred me to their "checker" page that it just
reports that the number is not suitable for adsl, I will
assume that it does end up on the register, as it is highly
unlikely that the telegraph point exchange will ever get
adsl..............

thanks again

Geoff

 

This url only advises if your exchange supports adsl, it doesn't let you
know if it is available for your phone or not and nor is there any provision
to get on any 'demand register'.... sorry Rod, bad reply.

 

The only way you can find out if ADSL is available on your telephone is
by applying.

Everyone -- and I do mean /everyone/ -- simply checks to see if your
exchange supports ADSL until you actually submit an application.

 

Wrong. As always.

Wrong. As always.

Wrong. As always.

Not a fucking clue. As always.

 

Wrong. Try a number known to be off a RIM and you will
find that the Telstra check tells you you cant have adsl.

 

The main "Demand Register" seems to be at
<http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/index.cfm>

Which has an interesting link to "View all exchanges" at
<http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/list.cfm>

There has been some local publicity for Telstra broadband in the local
rags this past week or so as a result of a PR push by Telstra Country
Wide.

Seems the idea is that you register your interest in a broadband
connection. Then, for exchanges that currently *do not* have ADSL,
once 60 people on that exchange register interest, Telstra will do a
study to determine the commercial threshhold for implementing ADSL on
that exchange.

Follow that okay? IOW they won't be doing anything until it looks
like it *might* be viable; then they mightn't do anything anyway. And
60 starters seems to be the very minimum before they can be bothered
looking. [Where they have bothered to put a value for "Required
Interest" in their list so far, it's either 150 (mostly) or 225 (a
few) on the couple of pages I checked out.]

Oh, and cop this bit from the exchanges listing pages:
<quoting>
Please note:
This table may not show any expressions of interest for ADSL for your
exchange initially. We will progressively be updating this new
register with expressions of interest. Customers who have lodged an
expression of interest in ADSL, prior to July 2 2003, should register
again. You may be contacted via e-mail by your preferred ADSL Internet
provider to confirm this.
</quoting>

Got that? If you did it before, you may need to do it again.


Cheers, Phred.

 

...

Which is fair enough.

Probably a exchange based miniMUX.

Probably a full CMUX.

It's looking like all the previous Bigpond expressions of
interest were either dumped, or weren't even kept in the
first place.

 

It was a dark and stormy night, and Phred managed to scribble:

Last time I phoned Telstra I called them hillbillies.
I was right!

gtoomey

 

For the Pendle Hill (Sydney) exchange the search site below says Sorry and
the other 2 sites say Pendle Hill is enabled but there is no registered
interest.
I have not moved to my new hous there yet so what do I believe??
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?

 

Why waste millions of dollars in rolling out something
that will, most likely, be under-utilised?

 

...

Because as it's already ADSL enabled there's no need for
expressions of interest.

It's ADSL enabled but are you sure that's really the
exchange you'll be connected to?

And even though the exchange is enabled it doesn't mean
that your future phone line will be able to support it.

 

I understand all that about line support and it was the Telstra site that
told me it was Pendle Hill.
How else would I know?
But really my main point was one Telstra site takes the number and comes
back with "Sorry" while the other test site says it is OK.

 

...

Fair enough.

http://www.telstra.com.au/adsl/ordering/search.cfm

In order to apply for ADSL, you must first check that
your telephone line and exchange can support ADSL.

http://www.telstra.com.au/demand/index.cfm

It's not OK. It just says that your exchange is enabled.

Obviously there's a problem with the line.

 

There is no need for a ADSL demand register. Roddles say that ADSL is
available to everyone already.

 

I don't claim to know but I thought it would have been
relatively easy placing an expression of interest from the
number checking page to have those details put straight into
the demand register ?

Perhaps Telstra do not want it to be this simple, far better
to make it confusing so that hundreds of exchanges don't
start showing as being needed / wanted as adsl exchanges

You only need to look at the exchange list to realise how
many exchanges will never be enabled, as you skip through
the pages of exchanges the "exchange enabled" words don't
come up very often.

all a bit of a political bullshit con if you ask me ........

Geoff

 

The trouble with that approach is that would be FAR too
easy to flagrantly abuse. Discover that your exchange or
RIM doesnt support adsl, use one of the phone books
with number lookup to find others on the same exchange
or RIM and just punch their numbers into that form so
it looks like there is enough demand to justify adsl.

Mindless conspiracy theory.

Thats just because that list is JUST exchanges that either
dont have adsl enabled or have run out of adsl line capacity.
There aint that many that have run out of adsl line capacity.

No one did ask you. You're obviously
into mindless conspiracy theorys.