Wireless Keyboard/Mouse - Mouse goes to sleep too quickly

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Mike Rofone, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. Mike Rofone

    Mike Rofone Guest

    Got a Microsoft branded wireless keyboard and mouse for the computer. It works
    fine, except the mouse "goes to sleep" after period of inactivity to conserve
    the battery.

    Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few minutes. However,
    upon setting it up and testing it, this period is more like seconds, rather than
    minutes.

    In order to reconnect it we have to press the "connect" buttons on the USB
    connected receiver and on the mouse. For some reason the keyboard doesn't
    disconnect.

    I got it from Officeworks. Its list price was $54 but it was marked down to $32.
    Cheap enough and as keyboards and mice go they're ergonomically and functionally
    as good as anything out there (OW has one combo unit that sells for around $200
    or so - dunno what it can do better except maybe not "go to sleep").

    I can't find any settings that would wind the inactivity timer out to a more
    realistic and workable value.

    Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.

    Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two
    she went to use the mouse to select an option. She had to reconnect it.

    Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.
     
    Mike Rofone, Nov 25, 2010
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  2. Mike Rofone

    annily Guest

    On 2010-11-25 13:18, Mike Rofone wrote:
    > Got a Microsoft branded wireless keyboard and mouse for the computer. It works
    > fine, except the mouse "goes to sleep" after period of inactivity to conserve
    > the battery.
    >
    > Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
    >
    > Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two
    > she went to use the mouse to select an option. She had to reconnect it.
    >
    > Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.
    >


    My wireless Logitech mouse doesn't do that at all. It does sometimes
    seem a bit slow to respond initially after a period of inactivity, but
    it doesn't need reconnecting.

    --
    Long-time resident of Adelaide, South Australia,
    which probably influences my opinions.
     
    annily, Nov 25, 2010
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  3. Mike Rofone

    Rod Speed Guest

    annily wrote
    > Mike Rofone wrote


    >> Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few minutes. However,upon setting it up and testing it,
    >> this period is more like seconds, rather than minutes.


    I'd get a full refund on the basis that it doesnt do what the manual says it should do.

    >> In order to reconnect it we have to press the "connect" buttons on the USB connected receiver and on the mouse.


    Thats completely fucked.

    >> For some reason the keyboard doesn't disconnect.


    Because it doesnt take anything like the same amount of power.

    >> I got it from Officeworks. Its list price was $54 but it was marked down to $32.


    They do full refunds if you change your mind on the product.

    >> Cheap enough and as keyboards and mice go they're ergonomically and functionally as good as anything out there


    Nope, they dont have the charger garage approach for the mouse.

    And MS dont warrant the lettering wearing off on the keyboard either.

    >> (OW has one combo unit that sells for around $200 or so - dunno what it can do better except maybe not "go to
    >> sleep").


    >> I can't find any settings that would wind the inactivity timer out to a more realistic and workable value.


    >> Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.


    >> Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two she went to use the mouse to select an
    >> option. She had to reconnect it.


    Thats completely fucked.

    >> Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.


    Makes more sense to get a viable combo.

    > My wireless Logitech mouse doesn't do that at all.


    My Logitech mouse doesnt either.

    > It does sometimes seem a bit slow to respond initially after a period of inactivity,


    Mine isnt. The most I might have to do very occassionally is move it around a bit to get the sleep to wake up.

    > but it doesn't need reconnecting.


    Mine never needs that.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2010
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  4. Mike Rofone

    Rob Guest

    On 25/11/2010 1:48 PM, Mike Rofone wrote:
    > Got a Microsoft branded wireless keyboard and mouse for the computer. It works
    > fine, except the mouse "goes to sleep" after period of inactivity to conserve
    > the battery.
    >
    > Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few minutes. However,
    > upon setting it up and testing it, this period is more like seconds, rather than
    > minutes.
    >
    > In order to reconnect it we have to press the "connect" buttons on the USB
    > connected receiver and on the mouse. For some reason the keyboard doesn't
    > disconnect.
    >
    > I got it from Officeworks. Its list price was $54 but it was marked down to $32.
    > Cheap enough and as keyboards and mice go they're ergonomically and functionally
    > as good as anything out there (OW has one combo unit that sells for around $200
    > or so - dunno what it can do better except maybe not "go to sleep").
    >
    > I can't find any settings that would wind the inactivity timer out to a more
    > realistic and workable value.
    >
    > Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
    >
    > Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two
    > she went to use the mouse to select an option. She had to reconnect it.
    >
    > Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.
    >


    I've given up on Microsoft keyboards and Mouse not very satisfactory
    yes they drop out.

    besides the keyboard letters wear off the keys and the scroll wheel
    expands with oil off my finger there made in the cheapest factory in
    China and only sell because Microsoft is on the box.


    After all that you are using the correct drivers which came with the stuff?

    You could have an issue with the USB ports in which Microsoft have a Fix
    which you can download.
     
    Rob, Nov 25, 2010
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  5. annily wrote:
    > On 2010-11-25 13:18, Mike Rofone wrote:
    >> Got a Microsoft branded wireless keyboard and mouse for the computer. It works
    >> fine, except the mouse "goes to sleep" after period of inactivity to conserve
    >> the battery.
    >>
    >> Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
    >>
    >> Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two
    >> she went to use the mouse to select an option. She had to reconnect it.
    >>
    >> Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.

    >
    > My wireless Logitech mouse doesn't do that at all. It does sometimes seem a bit
    > slow to respond initially after a period of inactivity, but it doesn't need
    > reconnecting.


    I have the Logitech wireless mouse too. Its very sluggish upon waking after its
    gone to sleep. The worst bit is that the wheel doesn't wake it up by rotation.
    You have to click and then rotate to get it to respond.

    There's no reconnect problem but there is a problem with the software dying
    occasionally. I got hit again last night. It just stops responding. All I could
    do was plug in a USB mouse and reboot it to get the Logitech software to work again.

    I'm not sure if its the software itself that's at fault or some poor interaction
    with MS libraries but there have been no updates to Logitech's software since I
    bought the damn thing.

    Note that there's also problem with wireless on the 2.4GHz band and Bluetooth.

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    Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Nov 25, 2010
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  6. Rob wrote:
    >
    > I've given up on Microsoft keyboards and Mouse not very satisfactory yes they
    > drop out.
    >
    > besides the keyboard letters wear off the keys and the scroll wheel expands with
    > oil off my finger there made in the cheapest factory in China and only sell
    > because Microsoft is on the box.


    LOL! Nothing worse than the letters wearing off.

    > After all that you are using the correct drivers which came with the stuff?
    >
    > You could have an issue with the USB ports in which Microsoft have a Fix which
    > you can download.


    Off-topic (slightly):

    I like the look of the HP wireless keyboard but you can't get it without buying
    one of their systems.

    Anyone have one of the HP wireless keyboards? How do they perform?

    --
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
    - KRudd at his finest.

    "The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
    - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

    "This is the recession we had to have!"
    - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

    "Silly old bugger!"
    - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
    responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

    "By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
    - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

    "A billion trees ..."
    - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

    "Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
    general!"
    - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
    appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

    "SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
    - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

    "I don't care what you fuckers think!"
    - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

    "We'll just change it all when we get in."
    - Garrett the carrott
     
    Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF, Nov 25, 2010
    #6
  7. Mike Rofone

    annily Guest

    On 2010-11-25 15:08, Rod Speed wrote:
    > annily wrote
    >
    >> It does sometimes seem a bit slow to respond initially after a period of inactivity,

    >
    > Mine isnt. The most I might have to do very occassionally is move it around a bit to get the sleep to wake up.
    >


    That's what I meant, if I understand you correctly. There is sometimes a
    brief delay before the mouse pointer moves when you move the mouse after
    a period of inactivity.

    --
    Long-time resident of Adelaide, South Australia,
    which probably influences my opinions.
     
    annily, Nov 25, 2010
    #7
  8. Mike Rofone

    Rod Speed Guest

    annily wrote:
    > On 2010-11-25 15:08, Rod Speed wrote:
    >> annily wrote
    >>
    >>> It does sometimes seem a bit slow to respond initially after a
    >>> period of inactivity,

    >>
    >> Mine isnt. The most I might have to do very occassionally is move it
    >> around a bit to get the sleep to wake up.

    >
    > That's what I meant, if I understand you correctly. There is
    > sometimes a brief delay before the mouse pointer moves when you move
    > the mouse after a period of inactivity.


    OK, I focussed on the slow and not the slow to respond.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2010
    #8
  9. Mike Rofone

    Mike Rofone Guest

    Rob wrote...

    > I've given up on Microsoft keyboards and Mouse not very satisfactory
    > yes they drop out.


    Our other desktop PCs run MS keyboards and mice. One of them is a wireless
    version which has worked well over the years. This is why I stuck with the MS
    brand.

    (my favorite keyboard, though, was the type that IBM had with its XT and AT and
    PS/2 computers. Large keys with a positive tactile click to them).

    > After all that you are using the correct drivers which came with the stuff?


    It didn't come with any driver discs. Presumably Windows 7 (and other OSes)
    automatically install them as needed. Certainly, the keyboard and mouse worked
    out of the box once I operated the connect buttons on all three points.
     
    Mike Rofone, Nov 26, 2010
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  10. Mike Rofone

    Rob Guest

    On 28/11/2010 2:53 PM, Mike Rofone wrote:
    > Rob wrote...
    >
    >> I've given up on Microsoft keyboards and Mouse not very satisfactory
    >> yes they drop out.

    >
    > Today I grabbed the wireless mouse that we use on one of our laptops. It's an MS
    > product too and is quite a few years old.
    >
    > It seems to be working fine in conjunction with the wireless keyboard USB
    > adaptor. ie. no conflicts.
    >
    > Ergonomically it's not as flash. But it'll do the job.
    >
    > And it doesn't cut out at all. And battery life is quite long, perhaps a couple
    > of months, not that this is an issue.
    >


    New versions ain't like that anymore.
     
    Rob, Nov 28, 2010
    #10
  11. Mike Rofone

    Mike Rofone Guest

    Rob wrote...

    > > And it doesn't cut out at all. And battery life is quite long, perhaps a couple
    > > of months, not that this is an issue.
    > >

    >
    > New versions ain't like that anymore.


    So it appears. The missus has been using this older MS wireless keyboard and
    mouse for a few days now. No timeouts or whatever. And both the keyboard and
    mouse are better quality in terms of feel, tactile use and so on.

    I forget what I paid for it but it seems that we got value for money on that
    one.
     
    Mike Rofone, Nov 30, 2010
    #11
  12. Mike Rofone

    Mike Rofone Guest

    Rod Speed wrote...

    > annily wrote
    > > Mike Rofone wrote

    >
    > >> Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few minutes. However,upon setting it up and testing it,
    > >> this period is more like seconds, rather than minutes.

    >
    > I'd get a full refund on the basis that it doesnt do what the manual says it should do.


    Will be trotting down to Orificeworks tomorrow to do exactly that. Or, rather,
    to swap it for something better.

    What's a recommended wireless keyboard/mouse combo? Another, higher end MS
    product or a Logitech one?

    Do they require a driver disc or will Windows 7 recognise it like it did with
    both the MS ones that we had on this particular PC?

    Oh, I just checked the older keyboard/mouse unit. It has a more solid mouse,
    feels a bit heavier and higher quality than this new one that I bought last
    week. Keyboard is the same. the newer one is light, which to me says "low
    quality and being lighter it means that it takes less effort to shift it around
    the desktop.

    The older one is nearly 4 years old now and still working perfectly. Mouse stays
    alive all the time.

    I also have two wireless mice, one bought 4 years ago which has a 50mm long
    dongle and is designed for laptops. Its battery lasts for yonks. The newer
    laptop wireless mouse has a dongle which is about 5 mm longer than the actual
    USB plug. And it works well, too.

    So, it appears that the Microsoft range of keyboards and mice (wireless) can
    vary markedly in quality.
     
    Mike Rofone, Dec 2, 2010
    #12
  13. On 2010/11/25 13:48, Mike Rofone wrote:
    > Got a Microsoft branded wireless keyboard and mouse for the computer. It works
    > fine, except the mouse "goes to sleep" after period of inactivity to conserve
    > the battery.
    >
    > Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few minutes. However,
    > upon setting it up and testing it, this period is more like seconds, rather than
    > minutes.
    >
    > In order to reconnect it we have to press the "connect" buttons on the USB
    > connected receiver and on the mouse. For some reason the keyboard doesn't
    > disconnect.
    >
    > I got it from Officeworks. Its list price was $54 but it was marked down to $32.
    > Cheap enough and as keyboards and mice go they're ergonomically and functionally
    > as good as anything out there (OW has one combo unit that sells for around $200
    > or so - dunno what it can do better except maybe not "go to sleep").
    >
    > I can't find any settings that would wind the inactivity timer out to a more
    > realistic and workable value.
    >
    > Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
    >
    > Just now the missus is in Word typing up a document. After a paragraph or two
    > she went to use the mouse to select an option. She had to reconnect it.
    >
    > Looks like I'll connect up a wired mouse.
    >


    This is really odd

    "Normally" Microshit mouses won't go to sleep, and wear the battery down
    in 1-2 weeks. They do have a history of dropping out and the Receiver
    should be .5 meter away.

    But as with all Microshit Products, it will work without their software,
    but to make it work properly you really have to install their software.
    And should "ALWAYS" download the latest Bugs from Microsoft, Never use
    the CD that is supplied.

    Coincidently: Did you know Microshits and Logitechs are made on the
    same Production Line in Shenzhen!!
     
    son of a bitch, Dec 2, 2010
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  14. Mike Rofone

    Rod Speed Guest

    Mike Rofone wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> annily wrote
    >>> Mike Rofone wrote


    >>>> Now, the manual describes this "period of inactivity" as a few
    >>>> minutes. However,upon setting it up and testing it, this period
    >>>> is more like seconds, rather than minutes.


    >> I'd get a full refund on the basis that it doesnt do what the manual says it should do.


    > Will be trotting down to Orificeworks tomorrow to do exactly that.
    > Or, rather, to swap it for something better.


    > What's a recommended wireless keyboard/mouse combo?


    I like the logitechs myself. Dont use a current one tho mouse wise.
    I like the MX700 for its extra buttons and charging garage and found
    someone flogging heaps of them on ebay and bought half a dozen
    they were so cheap. When the keyboard failed under warranty, and
    they couldnt supply anything like the MX700, I got a full refund because
    they couldnt so effective got to use that combo for free for years.

    I bought an LX310 combo for peanut, $40 or so and its keyboard works fine
    on the mouse charging station for the MX700 so dont use that mouse at all.

    > Another, higher end MS product or a Logitech one?


    Logitech for me, mainly because my keyboards always end up
    with the letters wearing off and MS wont in theory replace them
    under warranty for that, Logitech will. While you can certainly
    monster MS using the Trade Practices Act on that, its just
    easy to go with Logitech when they are much more sensible
    and have what I consider better combos too.

    > Do they require a driver disc


    Nope, not with any version of Win. You only need the disc
    if you want to fiddle with the settings like the click timing etc.

    > or will Windows 7 recognise it like it did with both
    > the MS ones that we had on this particular PC?


    Yep.

    > Oh, I just checked the older keyboard/mouse unit. It has a more solid mouse,
    > feels a bit heavier and higher quality than this new one that I bought last week.


    Yeah, thats one of the reasons I keep using the MX700s.
    And the much larger than usual set of buttons on the mouse too.

    > Keyboard is the same. the newer one is light, which to me says "low quality
    > and being lighter it means that it takes less effort to shift it around the desktop.


    I dont use them on the desktop, I compute from a deep armchair with my feet
    up with the keyboard on my lap when typing much. When just typing a little like
    when web browsing etc, the keyboard is on a laptop stand on one of those
    older heavy duty monitor stands off the edge of the table the monitors sit on.

    Thats the main reason I dont use corded mice or keyboards anymore.

    > The older one is nearly 4 years old now and still working perfectly.


    Yeah, I did have one keyboard die like I said, but the mice have been fine.

    > Mouse stays alive all the time.


    Never had that effect with the Logitechs.

    > I also have two wireless mice, one bought 4 years ago which has a
    > 50mm long dongle and is designed for laptops. Its battery lasts for
    > yonks. The newer laptop wireless mouse has a dongle which is about
    > 5 mm longer than the actual USB plug. And it works well, too.


    > So, it appears that the Microsoft range of keyboards
    > and mice (wireless) can vary markedly in quality.


    Yeah, they do indeed.

    I've still got my original corded MS keyboard and optical
    mouse but only use them for working on foreign systems.
     
    Rod Speed, Dec 3, 2010
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