Playing .avi files in a DVD player connected to a tv.

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Polly the Parrott, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Hi Guys,

    What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10) have to be to
    play on home tv through a DVD player?

    Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.

    If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this? (Linux
    software needed).

    At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".

    As is usual, thanks in advance!
     
    Polly the Parrott, Nov 20, 2011
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  2. Polly the Parrott

    Guest

    Polly the Parrott <> wrote:
    > Hi Guys,
    > What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10) have to be to
    > play on home tv through a DVD player?

    ....

    Avi is a "container". It's probably what's inside that's getting the
    player foncused. I've had trouble with some of the latest formats, too.

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    , Nov 20, 2011
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  3. Polly the Parrott wrote:

    > What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10) have to be to
    > play on home tv through a DVD player?


    > Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.


    Not all DVD players support playing AVI files, so it could be just that.

    The other thing regarding format that should be considered, there are
    a LOT of AVI files from (cough, cough you know where) that are just
    plain corrupt. I've been doing video work for the last year or so
    (nothing complex, just general manipulation) and have learned three
    critical things you need to know:

    1/ The people who defined the standards of video format files are idiots.
    2/ The programmers who write the software that use the standards, are
    idiots.
    3/ The end users who use the software that uses the standards are idiots
    also.

    Most of the PC-based software that plays video files, is usually
    written to be quite tolerant of broken video files. Consumer appliances
    (DVD players, TV sets that support USB sticks etc) are a *LOT* less
    tolerant of screwups.

    Other than that, it helps to make sure the DVD player supports the
    codecs used within the AVI file. There are no hard and fast rules on
    that though, it's real easy to say that all support XviD/MP3, but it's
    probably more correct to say "most". Also, DivX support is sometimes
    advertised heavily on the box, and sometimes it's not even mentioned.

    > If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this? (Linux
    > software needed).


    I'm still looking, even for Winblows. You'd be surprised how often
    Nero gets recommended, and I'm wondering how many more times I can hear
    that before I barf.
    I don't use Linux anymore (yeah, I sold out, what of it) but from what
    I've read, ironically, you're by far more likely to get something
    reliable, consistent and free under Linux rather than windows.

    > At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    It smells like your player doesn't support AVI playback.
    What brand/model is it?

    I was going to suggest downloading some sample AVIs and burning a CD
    as a test, but after my brief look, forget it. Even one of the official
    Microsoft AVI files are broken. The rest vary from a little broken, to
    so woefully corrupt there is some debate that it could be called an AVI
    file anymore.

    Refer to my three rules above...
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    John Tserkezis, Nov 20, 2011
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  4. Polly the Parrott

    Rod Speed Guest

    Polly the Parrott wrote:

    > What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10)
    > have to be to play on home tv through a DVD player?


    That depends on the DVD player. The better ones will play avis
    without anything special, just write them on the DVD as a data file.

    > Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.


    Thats just the DVD planyer.

    You could try converting it to various AVI formats and see what it likes, if any.

    > If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    > (Linux software needed).


    Dont do it with linux myself.

    > At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    > As is usual, thanks in advance!
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 21, 2011
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  5. Polly the Parrott

    Petzl Guest

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:39:50 +1100, Polly the Parrott
    <> wrote:

    >Hi Guys,
    >
    >What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10) have to be to
    >play on home tv through a DVD player?
    >
    >Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.
    >
    >If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this? (Linux
    >software needed).
    >
    >At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".
    >
    >As is usual, thanks in advance!

    I just use "Windows DVD maker" which works fine. (not use Linux TC is
    the expert here)
    TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)
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    Petzl, Nov 21, 2011
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  6. Polly the Parrott

    Rod Speed Guest

    Pretzl wrote
    > Polly the Parrott <> wrote


    >> What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10)
    >> have to be to play on home tv through a DVD player?


    >> Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.


    >> If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    >> (Linux software needed).


    >> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    >> As is usual, thanks in advance!


    > I just use "Windows DVD maker" which works fine.


    Thats converting the avi to a DVD, different approach entirely and takes longer.

    > (not use Linux TC is the expert here)


    > TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)


    You dont get to use NTFS or FAT32 on a DVD.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 21, 2011
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  7. Polly the Parrott

    terryc Guest

    Polly the Parrott wrote:

    > If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this? (Linux
    > software needed).


    ffmpeg? No idea if it is the best. Easy to batch and set parameters.
     
    terryc, Nov 21, 2011
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  8. Polly the Parrott

    Petzl Guest

    On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:57:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <> wrote:

    >> TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)

    >
    >You dont get to use NTFS or FAT32 on a DVD.
    >

    I sometimes see something on YouTube I think interesting and save it
    as a Avi to a Fat32 formated USB and show others by plugging it into
    the USB port on a TV or DVD *player* (so far works everytime)
    < http://www.save2pc.com/ > is my choice of Win program to do this
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    Petzl, Nov 21, 2011
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  9. Polly the Parrott

    SG1 Guest

    "Rod Speed" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Pretzl wrote
    >> Polly the Parrott <> wrote

    >
    >>> What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10)
    >>> have to be to play on home tv through a DVD player?

    >
    >>> Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.

    >
    >>> If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    >>> (Linux software needed).

    >
    >>> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".

    >
    >>> As is usual, thanks in advance!

    >
    >> I just use "Windows DVD maker" which works fine.

    >
    > Thats converting the avi to a DVD, different approach entirely and takes
    > longer.
    >
    >> (not use Linux TC is the expert here)

    >
    >> TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)

    >
    > You dont get to use NTFS or FAT32 on a DVD.


    He never said that U had too, only mentioned USB. Keep up and only comment
    when you have some useful to add not gibberish.

    >
    >
     
    SG1, Nov 21, 2011
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  10. Polly the Parrott

    Rod Speed Guest

    Pretzl wrote
    > Rod Speed <> wrote
    >> Pretzl wrote
    >>> Polly the Parrott <> wrote


    >>>> What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10)
    >>>> have to be to play on home tv through a DVD player?


    >>>> Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.


    >>>> If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    >>>> (Linux software needed).


    >>>> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    >>>> As is usual, thanks in advance!


    >>> I just use "Windows DVD maker" which works fine.


    >> Thats converting the avi to a DVD, different approach entirely and takes longer.


    >>> (not use Linux TC is the expert here)


    >>> TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)


    >> You dont get to use NTFS or FAT32 on a DVD.


    > I sometimes see something on YouTube I think interesting and save
    > it as a Avi to a Fat32 formated USB and show others by plugging it
    > into the USB port on a TV or DVD *player* (so far works everytime)


    That aint the DVDs he is talking about, stupid.

    > < http://www.save2pc.com/ > is my choice of Win program to do this


    I use youtube downloader myself.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 21, 2011
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  11. Polly the Parrott

    Rod Speed Guest

    Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowring behind SG1 wrote
    just the puerile shit that always pours from the back of it.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 21, 2011
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  12. Rod Speed wrote:

    >> I sometimes see something on YouTube I think interesting and save
    >> it as a Avi to a Fat32 formated USB and show others by plugging it
    >> into the USB port on a TV or DVD *player* (so far works everytime)


    > That aint the DVDs he is talking about, stupid.


    Some DVD *players* (most notably combination appliances like PVRs with
    built-in DVD drives) have USB ports that play files that way.
    They are however as limited as the modern TV sets that do the same thing.
    FAT16/32 only, and a limited codec set to boot.

    A DVD Video conversion, as you said is a different process, and takes
    a significant amount of time. But gains you much better compatibility
    with DVD players of course.

    Trouble I've had, is any converter I've tried is not very tolerant of
    the AVI files that are out there, and if I have to transcode the AVI
    first, that just wastes more time.
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    John Tserkezis, Nov 21, 2011
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  13. terryc wrote:

    >> If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    >> (Linux software needed).


    > ffmpeg? No idea if it is the best. Easy to batch and set parameters.


    ffmpeg has quite wide support, but is a bitch to use if you've never
    touched it before.
    And is a pleasure if your comfortable with it, and know the data
    you're dealing with.

    There are some "pretty" GUI dresses you can make ffmpeg wear that make
    life easier, there's a whole series from Pazera (free, and they come
    with ffmpeg) for example that go from a variety of formats to any other,
    you pick and choose which one you want.

    But even then, you have to watch for those "odd" video files that
    don't follow standards.
    When transcoding, I've had to use different tools for the video and
    audio separately, and merge the two later.
    Matroska (MKV) files I've found are particularly guilty of this,
    they're sometimes a right prick to transcode to AVI.
    --
    I'm too smart to let my intelligence go to my head.
     
    John Tserkezis, Nov 21, 2011
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  14. On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:13 someone claiming to be John Tserkezis
    (), wrote:


    >> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".

    >
    > It smells like your player doesn't support AVI playback.
    > What brand/model is it?


    Panasonic, but it does have a USB port.

    Might try to fiddle with that.

    Thanks for the help, John.

    (And the file was from cough cough you know where, plays fine on the pc
    though!)
    >
     
    Polly the Parrott, Nov 21, 2011
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  15. Polly the Parrott

    Rod Speed Guest

    John Tserkezis wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> Pretzl wrote
    >>> Rod Speed <> wrote
    >>>> Pretzl wrote
    >>>>> Polly the Parrott <> wrote


    >>>>>> What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10)
    >>>>>> have to be to play on home tv through a DVD player?


    >>>>>> Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.


    >>>>>> If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this?
    >>>>>> (Linux software needed).


    >>>>>> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    >>>>>> As is usual, thanks in advance!


    >>>>> I just use "Windows DVD maker" which works fine.


    >>>> Thats converting the avi to a DVD, different approach entirely and takes longer.


    >>>>> (not use Linux TC is the expert here)


    >>>>> TV and DVD's only reconise "FAT32" format on USB (not NFTS)


    >>>> You dont get to use NTFS or FAT32 on a DVD.


    >>> I sometimes see something on YouTube I think interesting and save
    >>> it as a Avi to a Fat32 formated USB and show others by plugging it
    >>> into the USB port on a TV or DVD *player* (so far works everytime)


    >> That aint the DVDs he is talking about, stupid.


    > Some DVD *players* (most notably combination appliances like PVRs
    > with built-in DVD drives) have USB ports that play files that way.


    The dead duck was clearly talking about BURNING DVDs, stupid.

    > They are however as limited as the modern TV sets that do the same thing. FAT16/32 only, and a limited codec set to
    > boot.


    Irrelevant to what the dead duck was clearly talking about, stupid.

    > A DVD Video conversion, as you said is a different process, and takes a significant amount of time. But gains you
    > much better compatibility with DVD players of course.


    > Trouble I've had, is any converter I've tried is not very tolerant of the AVI files that are out there,


    Never seen a problem with that myself. You need a better converter.

    > and if I have to transcode the AVI first, that just wastes more time.


    Doesnt take long enough to matter with a decent performance system.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 21, 2011
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  16. Polly the Parrott wrote:

    >>> At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".


    >> It smells like your player doesn't support AVI playback.
    >> What brand/model is it?


    > Panasonic, but it does have a USB port.


    > Might try to fiddle with that.
    > Thanks for the help, John.


    > (And the file was from cough cough you know where, plays fine on the pc
    > though!)


    Ah, as the mythbusters team sometimes says "There's your problem!".

    I have a family friend that's doing pretty much the same thing, except
    with a TV instead of DVD player.
    It's that bad, they say of a TV series, some episodes play, some not.
    Appears to be about a 50% failure rate.
    I gave them some help on using VirtualDub to repackage the AVI, or
    recode the audio (where the usual problems are) and that's worked for
    them most of the time.
    The more problematic ones I handle.

    I've gone the PC route myself.
    As it turns out, our TV has a couple of USB ports for either AVI
    storage, or PVR storage (proprietary setup only) a WiFi option (their
    expensive option only), can browse the net (except videos), can do Skype
    (with their expensive camera only), offers a variety of IPTV options
    (all of which cost a mint) and a whole lot more.

    Yet I'm not interested in the least. It's only getting used as a monitor.

    I'm using a normal PC sitting in the cabinet under the TV.
    I went to the trouble of running a cable from the server (was a rather
    painful experience as I have arthritis in my legs, and crawling under
    the house was not fun).

    All of this regardless of the cost (the PC, remote keyboard etc),
    because it can play just about any video file known to mankind. Even
    most of the corrupted ones. Skype courtesy of a cheap camera I had lying
    around. Full blown web page support WITH flash (even if you don't like
    it, it's an option). Firefox with my usual raft of add-ons that make
    pages a whole lot less annoying. A decent menu system that works the way
    *I* want it to, not how *they* want you to have it. All linked to my
    server which has about 5500 Films and TV series so far (I have a stack
    of DVDs that I haven't ripped yet).

    AND I have a dual DVT tuner card, where I can record in a *normal*
    format that I can use later, not some proprietary bullshit that can't be
    used anywhere. Just for the off-chance we might want to TV sometime.

    I don't tolerate crap that doesn't work, and there's nothing I hate
    worse that being forced to watch an MKV file on a laptop, just because
    my whizz bang TV doesn't support it.
    --
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    John Tserkezis, Nov 22, 2011
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  17. Polly the Parrott <> wrote:
    > Hi Guys,
    >
    > What format does an .avi movie burnt onto DVD (Lubuntu 11.10) have to be to
    > play on home tv through a DVD player?
    >
    > Having trouble getting the DVD player to recognise this format.
    >
    > If the file has to be converted, what is the best software for this? (Linux
    > software needed).
    >
    > At present the DVD (Blue Ray) player says "unable to recognise media".
    >
    > As is usual, thanks in advance!


    Vso convert x to DVD

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    wÓ‡â˜âœžâˆ‰Â¥, Nov 24, 2011
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