NewsTap app question

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Bruce Esquibel, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. I spent a little time looking around for an answer to this and didn't find
    anything.

    I use the paid version of Newstap on the iPad and iPhone to read usenet when
    handy.

    For some reason, the time stamp of an article is displayed as GMT I guess (6
    hours earlier than where I am). Like right now, it's about 8:40am here, when
    I post this and look at it from NewsTap, it'll show it as 2:40am.

    Most unix based newsreaders I use generally have some kind of setting to
    control it, but unless I keep missing it, I don't see anything within the
    app or in the devices Settings for the app.

    I also don't see anyone else complaining about it, so I dunno if it's just
    me or what.

    Any clues?

    -bruce
     
    Bruce Esquibel, Dec 8, 2011
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  2. Bruce Esquibel

    D Finnigan Guest

    Bruce Esquibel wrote:
    >
    > I also don't see anyone else complaining about it, so I dunno if it's just
    > me or what.
    >
    > Any clues?
    >


    I too have looked for a way to change the time zone, but there doesn't
    appear to be any option. IMO, this is a flaw in the application, and as a
    purchaser, I would suggest contacting the developer (I shall too).

    http://www.clauss-net.de/contact.html

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    ]DF$
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    D Finnigan, Dec 8, 2011
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  3. Bruce Esquibel

    Lloyd Guest

    In article <>,
    (D Finnigan) wrote:

    > Bruce Esquibel wrote:
    > >
    > > I also don't see anyone else complaining about it, so I dunno if it's just
    > > me or what.
    > >
    > > Any clues?
    > >

    >
    > I too have looked for a way to change the time zone, but there doesn't
    > appear to be any option. IMO, this is a flaw in the application, and as a
    > purchaser, I would suggest contacting the developer (I shall too).
    >
    > http://www.clauss-net.de/contact.html


    based on the lack of any updates to the sw in a very long time, I doubt
    that the developer is doing anything with it at all.
     
    Lloyd, Dec 8, 2011
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  4. Bruce Esquibel

    The Sandman Guest

    Lloyd <> wrote:


    >
    > based on the lack of any updates to the sw in a very long time, I doubt
    > that the developer is doing anything with it at all.


    The last update was some ten days ago... :) But the one before that was
    looooong time ago.

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    The Sandman on iPad
     
    The Sandman, Dec 8, 2011
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  5. Bruce Esquibel

    Lloyd Guest

    In article
    <-september.org>
    ,
    The Sandman <> wrote:

    > Lloyd <> wrote:
    >
    >
    > >
    > > based on the lack of any updates to the sw in a very long time, I doubt
    > > that the developer is doing anything with it at all.

    >
    > The last update was some ten days ago... :) But the one before that was
    > looooong time ago.


    I had forgotten that one. What was it supposed to actually do better?

    At best, Newstap is a very minimal usenet client, but it is all we have
    on the iPad.
     
    Lloyd, Dec 8, 2011
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  6. Bruce Esquibel

    D Finnigan Guest

    Response from developer, was Re: NewsTap app question

    I emailed the developer, and he replied that it is a bug:


    On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:57:23 +0100, Alexander Clauss wrote:
    >>a year. I would like to suggest a feature for the next version. I think
    >>that having a selectable timezone for the date display of articles would

    >
    > In general NewsTaps should always display the dates based on the timezone
    > that is configured in the system. But there's a bug so that currently this
    > is not working. But this will be fixed in the next release again.


    --
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    Macintosh computing.
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    D Finnigan, Dec 8, 2011
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  7. Bruce Esquibel

    The Sandman Guest

    Lloyd <> wrote:
    > In article
    > <-september.org>
    > ,
    > The Sandman <> wrote:
    >
    >> Lloyd <> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> based on the lack of any updates to the sw in a very long time, I doubt
    >>> that the developer is doing anything with it at all.

    >>
    >> The last update was some ten days ago... :) But the one before that was
    >> looooong time ago.

    >
    > I had forgotten that one. What was it supposed to actually do better?


    On iPad there's a new two panes view.

    >
    > At best, Newstap is a very minimal usenet client, but it is all we have
    > on the iPad.


    And I find it in any case really good. Better than any reader on PC or Mac.


    --
    The Sandman on iPad
     
    The Sandman, Dec 8, 2011
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  8. Bruce Esquibel

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <-september.org>,
    The Sandman <> wrote:

    > > At best, Newstap is a very minimal usenet client, but it is all we have
    > > on the iPad.

    >
    > And I find it in any case really good. Better than any reader on PC or Mac.


    what newsreaders have you used? newstap is garbage. it doesn't even
    handle crossposts properly.
     
    nospam, Dec 8, 2011
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  9. Bruce Esquibel

    Erilar Guest

    Lloyd <> wrote:
    > In article
    > <-september.org>
    > ,
    > The Sandman <> wrote:
    >
    >> Lloyd <> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> based on the lack of any updates to the sw in a very long time, I doubt
    >>> that the developer is doing anything with it at all.

    >>
    >> The last update was some ten days ago... :) But the one before that was
    >> looooong time ago.

    >
    > I had forgotten that one. What was it supposed to actually do better?

    I didn't install it because it appears in the clutch of apps with iOS5
    "fixes" and I'm avoiding installing the thing in the first place because I
    want to keep the content I have and do NOT want to be dependent on the
    "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.
    Sometimes I actually use mine OFF LINE!!
    >
    > At best, Newstap is a very minimal usenet client, but it is all we have
    > on the iPad.



    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Dec 8, 2011
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  10. Bruce Esquibel

    Erilar Guest

    nospam <> wrote:
    > In article
    > <-september.org>,
    > The Sandman <> wrote:
    >
    >>> At best, Newstap is a very minimal usenet client, but it is all we have
    >>> on the iPad.

    >>
    >> And I find it in any case really good. Better than any reader on PC or Mac.

    >
    > what newsreaders have you used? newstap is garbage. it doesn't even
    > handle crossposts properly.


    In my opinion, that's one of its finest features!

    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Dec 8, 2011
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  11. Bruce Esquibel

    bj Guest

    Erilar <> wrote:
    >
    > I had forgotten that one. What was it supposed to actually do better?
    > I didn't install it because it appears in the clutch of apps with iOS5
    > "fixes" and I'm avoiding installing the thing in the first place because I
    > want to keep the content I have and do NOT want to be dependent on the
    > "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.
    > Sometimes I actually use mine OFF LINE!!
    >>


    iOS5 does not *require* that you use the cloud.
    I don't, with the devices I have iOS5 on.
    bj
     
    bj, Dec 8, 2011
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  12. Erilar <> wrote:
    >
    > I didn't install it because it appears in the clutch of apps with iOS5
    > "fixes" and I'm avoiding installing the thing in the first place because I
    > want to keep the content I have and do NOT want to be dependent on the
    > "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.
    > Sometimes I actually use mine OFF LINE!!


    iOS 5 asks you if you want to enable iCloud. You can finetune
    this for many different categories or simply keep everything
    disabled. There is no need at all to use the cloud.

    Dennis

    --
    Nichts begrüßt einen freudiger als ein nasser Hund.
    (Werner Koczwara)
     
    Dennis Grevenstein, Dec 9, 2011
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  13. Bruce Esquibel

    Guest

    Jolly Roger <> writes:

    > In article <jbr5j4$uaq$>,
    > Erilar <> wrote:
    >
    >> I do NOT want to be dependent on the
    >> "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.

    >
    > It's hard for me to imagine why you would think iCloud is useless
    > without a constant internet connection, nor why you would refrain from
    > installing iOS5 updates for applications like NewsTap because of that
    > concern.


    Or why she thinks iOS5 requires the use of iCloud at all.
    iOS5 works fine with MobileMe for those who haven't made
    the switch yet. Or with neither MobileMe nor iCloud if
    one doesn't want the sync features that they provide.


    --
    Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
     
    , Dec 9, 2011
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  14. Bruce Esquibel

    Erilar Guest

    Dennis Grevenstein <> wrote:
    > Erilar <> wrote:
    >>
    >> I didn't install it because it appears in the clutch of apps with iOS5
    >> "fixes" and I'm avoiding installing the thing in the first place because I
    >> want to keep the content I have and do NOT want to be dependent on the
    >> "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.
    >> Sometimes I actually use mine OFF LINE!!

    >
    > iOS 5 asks you if you want to enable iCloud. You can finetune
    > this for many different categories or simply keep everything
    > disabled. There is no need at all to use the cloud.


    That's supposed to be the reason for installing the thing, isn't it?



    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

    ..
     
    Erilar, Dec 9, 2011
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  15. Bruce Esquibel

    Erilar Guest

    bj <> wrote:
    > Erilar <> wrote:
    >>
    >> I had forgotten that one. What was it supposed to actually do better?
    >> I didn't install it because it appears in the clutch of apps with iOS5
    >> "fixes" and I'm avoiding installing the thing in the first place because I
    >> want to keep the content I have and do NOT want to be dependent on the
    >> "cloud" that is totally useless without a 365/24/7 internet connection.
    >> Sometimes I actually use mine OFF LINE!!
    >>>

    >
    > iOS5 does not *require* that you use the cloud.
    > I don't, with the devices I have iOS5 on.
    > bj

    My daughter installed it unwarily and lost some valuable data she had
    invested considerable time in putting into a program. I have also seen
    several complaints about losing data from others in this group. I have yet
    to hear of anything of use to me in iOS5.

    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

    ..
     
    Erilar, Dec 9, 2011
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  16. In article <jbu3q5$hth$>,
    Erilar <> wrote:

    > > iOS 5 asks you if you want to enable iCloud. You can finetune
    > > this for many different categories or simply keep everything
    > > disabled. There is no need at all to use the cloud.

    >
    > That's supposed to be the reason for installing the thing, isn't it?


    One of the reasons.

    You can see what many of the other reasons are at
    <http://www.apple.com/ios/>

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 10, 2011
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  17. Erilar <> wrote:
    >
    >> iOS 5 asks you if you want to enable iCloud. You can finetune
    >> this for many different categories or simply keep everything
    >> disabled. There is no need at all to use the cloud.

    >
    > That's supposed to be the reason for installing the thing, isn't it?


    I like wlan sync, notification center and OTA updates.
    Being able to get updates quickly from a single vendor is one
    of the advantages of iOS. It may not be wise to upgrade the day
    a new release comes out, but iOS 5 has been out for a while
    now.

    Dennis

    --
    Nichts begrüßt einen freudiger als ein nasser Hund.
    (Werner Koczwara)
     
    Dennis Grevenstein, Dec 11, 2011
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  18. Bruce Esquibel

    David Empson Guest

    Erilar <> wrote:

    > nospam <> wrote:
    > > In article <jc16m1$bta$>, Erilar
    > > <> wrote:
    > >
    > >>>> Some things on the iPad do NOT get backed up
    > >>>> to iTunes and there's not necessarily a good list thereof.
    > >>>
    > >>> everything gets backed up, however, you may need to reenter some
    > >>> passwords after restoring.
    > >>
    > >> Not true. Some apps have to have individual items, such as documents in
    > >> Pages, exported one by one.

    > >
    > > it's very true. there is no need to export individual documents of an
    > > app. they're all backed up and restored. you end up with everything
    > > exactly the same, but on different hardware (other than some
    > > passwords).

    > Then why werevall the entries my daughter made in an app wiped out when she
    > upgraded?


    What app? Maybe that app doesn't store its data in the right place to be
    backed up.

    My iPhone and iPad lost nothing apart from WiFi passwords when I
    upgraded to iOS 5.

    > And why are my Pages document created on the iPad nowhere to be
    > found in the Pages app on my computer's backup even when the iPad is
    > connected?


    Because that isn't how iOS device backups work. Documents created on the
    iPad will be stored in the backup made by iTunes, and will be restored
    to the iPad during a firmware update (or when restoring for any other
    reason), but they aren't automatically copied out of the backup for
    access by anything else.

    If you want to get a document from Pages on the iPad to Pages on the
    Mac, you need to send it in some way.

    One method is to use "Send to iTunes" for that document on the iPad.
    This copies it into an area which iTunes can access, then when the iPad
    is connected to iTunes, select the device in the iTunes sidebar, click
    on the Apps tab, scroll to the Fire Sharing heading at the bottom,
    select Pages in the list of apps, and then save the document out of the
    list to where you want it on the Mac. Pages on the Mac will then be able
    to acces that copy.

    This will result in three independent copies of the document: one in the
    Pages app on the iPad, one in the iTunes area for the Pages app on the
    iPad, and one accessible by Pages on the Mac. Either the first or last
    one can be edited and the process would have to be repeated if you
    wanted to copy changes. (You can delete files in the iTunes File Sharing
    view, if you don't want the middle copy any more, by selecting the file
    and pressing the Delete key.)

    To copy changes back the other way, do a similar task in reverse: drag
    the document into the File Sharing area for Pages in in Tunes, then in
    Pages on the iPad, add a new document (+ button), choose Copy from
    iTunes, and select the document, which will import it.

    Alteratively you could e-mail the document to yourself.

    iCloud is already a much easier solution for accessing the same document
    on multiple iOS devices, but isn't quite there yet for iWork on the Mac
    (I gather that there is an extra step to copy documents to/from the
    cloud).

    --
    David Empson
     
    David Empson, Dec 11, 2011
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  19. Bruce Esquibel

    Erilar Guest

    David Empson <> wrote:
    > Erilar <> wrote:
    >
    >> nospam <> wrote:
    >>> In article <jc16m1$bta$>, Erilar
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>>> Some things on the iPad do NOT get backed up
    >>>>>> to iTunes and there's not necessarily a good list thereof.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> everything gets backed up, however, you may need to reenter some
    >>>>> passwords after restoring.
    >>>>
    >>>> Not true. Some apps have to have individual items, such as documents in
    >>>> Pages, exported one by one.
    >>>
    >>> it's very true. there is no need to export individual documents of an
    >>> app. they're all backed up and restored. you end up with everything
    >>> exactly the same, but on different hardware (other than some
    >>> passwords).

    >> Then why werevall the entries my daughter made in an app wiped out when she
    >> upgraded?

    >
    > What app? Maybe that app doesn't store its data in the right place to be
    > backed up.
    >
    > My iPhone and iPad lost nothing apart from WiFi passwords when I
    > upgraded to iOS 5.
    >
    >> And why are my Pages document created on the iPad nowhere to be
    >> found in the Pages app on my computer's backup even when the iPad is
    >> connected?

    >
    > Because that isn't how iOS device backups work. Documents created on the
    > iPad will be stored in the backup made by iTunes, and will be restored
    > to the iPad during a firmware update (or when restoring for any other
    > reason), but they aren't automatically copied out of the backup for
    > access by anything else.


    No, they are not. See my other post.
    >
    > If you want to get a document from Pages on the iPad to Pages on the
    > Mac, you need to send it in some way.


    Exactly. That is not automatic backup.
    >
    > One method is to use "Send to iTunes" for that document on the iPad.
    > This copies it into an area which iTunes can access, then when the iPad
    > is connected to iTunes, select the device in the iTunes sidebar, click
    > on the Apps tab, scroll to the Fire Sharing heading at the bottom,
    > select Pages in the list of apps, and then save the document out of the
    > list to where you want it on the Mac. Pages on the Mac will then be able
    > to acces that copy.
    >
    > This will result in three independent copies of the document: one in the
    > Pages app on the iPad, one in the iTunes area for the Pages app on the
    > iPad, and one accessible by Pages on the Mac. Either the first or last
    > one can be edited and the process would have to be repeated if you
    > wanted to copy changes. (You can delete files in the iTunes File Sharing
    > view, if you don't want the middle copy any more, by selecting the file
    > and pressing the Delete key.)
    >


    That is not automatic backup

    > To copy changes back the other way, do a similar task in reverse: drag
    > the document into the File Sharing area for Pages in in Tunes, then in
    > Pages on the iPad, add a new document (+ button), choose Copy from
    > iTunes, and select the document, which will import it.
    >
    > Alteratively you could e-mail the document to yourself.


    That is not automatic backup
    >
    > iCloud is already a much easier solution for accessing the same document
    > on multiple iOS devices, but isn't quite there yet for iWork on the Mac
    > (I gather that there is an extra step to copy documents to/from the
    > cloud).


    .. That is not automatic backup

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    Erilar, Dec 12, 2011
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  20. Bruce Esquibel

    David Empson Guest

    Erilar <> wrote:

    > David Empson <> wrote:
    > > Erilar <> wrote:
    > >
    > >> nospam <> wrote:
    > >>> In article <jc16m1$bta$>, Erilar
    > >>> <> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>>> Some things on the iPad do NOT get backed up
    > >>>>>> to iTunes and there's not necessarily a good list thereof.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> everything gets backed up, however, you may need to reenter some
    > >>>>> passwords after restoring.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Not true. Some apps have to have individual items, such as documents in
    > >>>> Pages, exported one by one.
    > >>>
    > >>> it's very true. there is no need to export individual documents of an
    > >>> app. they're all backed up and restored. you end up with everything
    > >>> exactly the same, but on different hardware (other than some
    > >>> passwords).
    > >> Then why werevall the entries my daughter made in an app wiped out when she
    > >> upgraded?

    > >
    > > What app? Maybe that app doesn't store its data in the right place to be
    > > backed up.
    > >
    > > My iPhone and iPad lost nothing apart from WiFi passwords when I
    > > upgraded to iOS 5.
    > >
    > >> And why are my Pages document created on the iPad nowhere to be
    > >> found in the Pages app on my computer's backup even when the iPad is
    > >> connected?

    > >
    > > Because that isn't how iOS device backups work. Documents created on the
    > > iPad will be stored in the backup made by iTunes, and will be restored
    > > to the iPad during a firmware update (or when restoring for any other
    > > reason), but they aren't automatically copied out of the backup for
    > > access by anything else.

    >
    > No, they are not. See my other post.
    > >
    > > If you want to get a document from Pages on the iPad to Pages on the
    > > Mac, you need to send it in some way.

    >
    > Exactly. That is not automatic backup.


    Yes it is.

    Your documents on your iPad are backed up when you connect your iPad to
    its host computer (or when you manually initiate a sync between iTunes
    and the iPad). If you lost or wiped your iPad, iTunes can restore it to
    the state it was in as at your last backup. That is the definition of a
    backup.

    Documents on the iPad are not synchronized with Pages on the Mac, which
    is a completely different issue.

    Synchronization allows you to access and edit a document from more than
    one device. Backups are for preserving the contents of one device (or
    set of files).

    Your complaint is that Pages documents are not synchronized between
    Pages on the iPad and Pages on the Mac. That is a valid complaint, but
    it is not the same one as claiming that Pages documents on the iPad are
    not backed up.

    --
    David Empson
     
    David Empson, Dec 12, 2011
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