iBooks Problem

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Carl Heinz, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. Carl Heinz

    Carl Heinz Guest

    My wife and I share an Apple account.

    I have an iPad1 and we've just gotten her an iPad2.

    With the exception of "Find My iPad", all iCloud components are turned off.

    She has her own copy of iTunes on her PC laptop while I use a separate copy in
    the PC desktop computer.

    I did the initial load of her iPad by synching my iTunes to it. Since that
    time, her iPad has not been connected to the desktop.

    Since her reading tastes differ somewhat from mine, she began rearranging and
    deleting "Collections" from her iBooks on her iPad. Suddenly, my collections
    on the iBooks it my iPad changed to her selection of collections. Books in
    the collections she removed reverted to the "Books" collection on my iPad.

    It's really going to be a major PITA trying to reorganize my collections back
    to close to what they were and I don't know of a strategy that will allow us
    to maintain our own sets of collections.

    An additional note: She was doing a synch this afternoon while I was reading
    a book on my iPad. I had not done a synch. I noticed the collections problem
    only when I'd finished a book and wanted to move it from my "Currently
    Reading" collection to the collection for that author. A further note is that
    the book I wanted to move from currently reading disappeared from that
    collection and I found it in a collection my wife had created.

    We were both linked to our home wifi net at the time.

    I've got a call into Apple support for Monday, but I was wondering if others
    had encountered similar problems.
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    Carl Heinz

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    Carl Heinz, Jan 1, 2012
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  2. In article <>,
    Carl Heinz <> wrote:

    > I've got a call into Apple support for Monday, but I was wondering if
    > others had encountered similar problems.


    The problem is that you're sharing an Apple account.

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Jan 1, 2012
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  3. Carl Heinz

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> someone claiming
    to be Carl Heinz <> typed:

    >Since her reading tastes differ somewhat from mine, she began rearranging and
    >deleting "Collections" from her iBooks on her iPad. Suddenly, my collections
    >on the iBooks it my iPad changed to her selection of collections. Books in
    >the collections she removed reverted to the "Books" collection on my iPad.
    >
    >It's really going to be a major PITA trying to reorganize my collections back
    >to close to what they were and I don't know of a strategy that will allow us
    >to maintain our own sets of collections.


    You could check the iBook Settings, I believe the "Sync Collections"
    switch might help here.

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    It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to
    steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
     
    DevilsPGD, Jan 1, 2012
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  4. Carl Heinz

    Carl Heinz Guest

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:54:55 -0800, DevilsPGD
    <> wrote:

    >In message <> someone claiming
    >to be Carl Heinz <> typed:
    >
    >>Since her reading tastes differ somewhat from mine, she began rearranging and
    >>deleting "Collections" from her iBooks on her iPad. Suddenly, my collections
    >>on the iBooks it my iPad changed to her selection of collections. Books in
    >>the collections she removed reverted to the "Books" collection on my iPad.
    >>
    >>It's really going to be a major PITA trying to reorganize my collections back
    >>to close to what they were and I don't know of a strategy that will allow us
    >>to maintain our own sets of collections.

    >
    >You could check the iBook Settings, I believe the "Sync Collections"
    >switch might help here.


    Unfortunately, "Sync Collections" was off.

    Why would sharing an account have an impact? The books, themselves, are still
    there. Unfortunately, the "Collections" are whacked. Shouldn't the account
    sharing suggestion imply that the books would also be synched across iPads?
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    Carl Heinz

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    Carl Heinz, Jan 1, 2012
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  5. Carl Heinz

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> someone claiming
    to be Carl Heinz <> typed:

    >Why would sharing an account have an impact? The books, themselves, are still
    >there. Unfortunately, the "Collections" are whacked. Shouldn't the account
    >sharing suggestion imply that the books would also be synched across iPads?


    iTunes is slowly solidifying the one-account/one-person position through
    convenience features.

    When you own multiple devices it is *really* nice to have your devices
    sync up automatically, so you can pick up reading where you left off
    from either device.

    It's somewhat annoying for those of us that share accounts, but that's
    just one of the trade-offs.

    --
    It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to
    steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
     
    DevilsPGD, Jan 1, 2012
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  6. On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:29:21 -0800, Carl Heinz <>
    wrote:

    >
    >An additional note: She was doing a synch this afternoon while I was reading
    >a book on my iPad. I had not done a synch. I noticed the collections problem
    >only when I'd finished a book and wanted to move it from my "Currently
    >Reading" collection to the collection for that author. A further note is that
    >the book I wanted to move from currently reading disappeared from that
    >collection and I found it in a collection my wife had created.


    One "solution" is to use different readers for different spouses.

    But Apple isn't strong on shared databases. I'd like to share our
    iPhoto library for instance.

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    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Jan 1, 2012
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  7. Carl Heinz

    Zaidy036 Guest

    On 1/1/2012 1:29 AM, Carl Heinz wrote:
    > My wife and I share an Apple account.
    >
    > I have an iPad1 and we've just gotten her an iPad2.
    >
    > With the exception of "Find My iPad", all iCloud components are turned off.
    >
    > She has her own copy of iTunes on her PC laptop while I use a separate copy in
    > the PC desktop computer.
    >
    > I did the initial load of her iPad by synching my iTunes to it. Since that
    > time, her iPad has not been connected to the desktop.
    >
    > Since her reading tastes differ somewhat from mine, she began rearranging and
    > deleting "Collections" from her iBooks on her iPad. Suddenly, my collections
    > on the iBooks it my iPad changed to her selection of collections. Books in
    > the collections she removed reverted to the "Books" collection on my iPad.
    >
    > It's really going to be a major PITA trying to reorganize my collections back
    > to close to what they were and I don't know of a strategy that will allow us
    > to maintain our own sets of collections.
    >
    > An additional note: She was doing a synch this afternoon while I was reading
    > a book on my iPad. I had not done a synch. I noticed the collections problem
    > only when I'd finished a book and wanted to move it from my "Currently
    > Reading" collection to the collection for that author. A further note is that
    > the book I wanted to move from currently reading disappeared from that
    > collection and I found it in a collection my wife had created.
    >
    > We were both linked to our home wifi net at the time.
    >
    > I've got a call into Apple support for Monday, but I was wondering if others
    > had encountered similar problems.


    You have to give your different devices different names and then they
    will be handled separately. "My iPad", "Her iPad" Up to 5 devices per
    account.

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    Zaidy036
     
    Zaidy036, Jan 1, 2012
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  8. Carl Heinz

    Carl Heinz Guest

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:13:58 -0800, Carl Heinz <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:54:55 -0800, DevilsPGD
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>In message <> someone claiming
    >>to be Carl Heinz <> typed:
    >>
    >>>Since her reading tastes differ somewhat from mine, she began rearranging and
    >>>deleting "Collections" from her iBooks on her iPad. Suddenly, my collections
    >>>on the iBooks it my iPad changed to her selection of collections. Books in
    >>>the collections she removed reverted to the "Books" collection on my iPad.
    >>>
    >>>It's really going to be a major PITA trying to reorganize my collections back
    >>>to close to what they were and I don't know of a strategy that will allow us
    >>>to maintain our own sets of collections.

    >>
    >>You could check the iBook Settings, I believe the "Sync Collections"
    >>switch might help here.

    >
    >Unfortunately, "Sync Collections" was off.
    >
    >Why would sharing an account have an impact? The books, themselves, are still
    >there. Unfortunately, the "Collections" are whacked. Shouldn't the account
    >sharing suggestion imply that the books would also be synched across iPads?


    A further check shows that although "Sync Collections" was off on my iPad, it
    was not off on hers.

    We're still awaiting the Monday call from Apple. Hopefully they'll confirm
    that that's the problem.
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    Carl Heinz

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    Carl Heinz, Jan 1, 2012
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  9. Carl Heinz

    bj Guest

    Zaidy036 <> wrote:
    >
    > You have to give your different devices different names and then they
    > will be handled separately. "My iPad", "Her iPad" Up to 5 devices per account.
    >


    Only 5? Since when?
    I have 6, though a couple of them are older iPods.
    No problems.
    bj
     
    bj, Jan 2, 2012
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  10. In article
    <>,
    bj <> wrote:

    > > You have to give your different devices different names and then they
    > > will be handled separately. "My iPad", "Her iPad" Up to 5 devices per
    > > account.
    > >

    >
    > Only 5? Since when?
    > I have 6, though a couple of them are older iPods.
    > No problems.


    A lot of people are confused by this; there is a limit of five personal
    computers, but no limit on iOS devices and iPods.

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    Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Jan 2, 2012
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  11. Carl Heinz

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> someone claiming
    to be Carl Heinz <> typed:

    >A further check shows that although "Sync Collections" was off on my iPad, it
    >was not off on hers.
    >
    >We're still awaiting the Monday call from Apple. Hopefully they'll confirm
    >that that's the problem.


    Wouldn't testing it yourself be faster than wasting time on a phone
    call?

    Based on what you've described, I'm guessing that this switch is
    probably a one-way sync, so it needs to be turned off on all devices to
    get the results you want.

    --
    It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to
    steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
     
    DevilsPGD, Jan 2, 2012
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  12. Carl Heinz

    Carl Heinz Guest

    On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:39:50 -0800, DevilsPGD
    <> wrote:

    >Wouldn't testing it yourself be faster than wasting time on a phone
    >call?


    Already had the call scheduled so decided to wait. Roughtly 1,400 books are
    involved with a lot of collections by author or by series within author. A
    lot of work went into setting them up and I want some confirmation that it
    shouldn't happen again.
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    Carl Heinz

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    Carl Heinz, Jan 2, 2012
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  13. Carl Heinz

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> someone claiming
    to be Carl Heinz <> typed:

    >On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:39:50 -0800, DevilsPGD
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Wouldn't testing it yourself be faster than wasting time on a phone
    >>call?

    >
    >Already had the call scheduled so decided to wait. Roughtly 1,400 books are
    >involved with a lot of collections by author or by series within author. A
    >lot of work went into setting them up and I want some confirmation that it
    >shouldn't happen again.


    Sure, but all you need to do is 1) Figure out steps to reproduce it
    under your original configuration, and 2) See if the same steps cause it
    to occur after a configuration change.

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    It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to
    steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
     
    DevilsPGD, Jan 3, 2012
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