HELP: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

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  1. daniel

    daniel Guest

    I have an old pc:
    AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    512 MB RAM 2700
    MX440 Nvidia card
    Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    VIA south bridge chip 686B
    AMD 761 North chip
    To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
    board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    soundcard (Vibra 128).
    After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
    video signal on monitor, no beep...
    but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    happened.
    I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
    fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)

    I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    could be the reason?

    My emails to Gigabyte went unanswered.

    Before buying another sound card ...I would like to have your help
    regarding the matter.

    Thanks in advance
    Regards,
    Daniel _Melbourne_Australia
     
    daniel, May 16, 2004
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  2. daniel

    DalienX Guest

    only way to be sure is to test the sound card on another computer,
    but it sounds like its dead to me, take it back to were you got it
    from and get a refund


    --
    DalienX



    daniel wrote:

    > I have an old pc:
    > AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    > Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    > 512 MB RAM 2700
    > MX440 Nvidia card
    > Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    > VIA south bridge chip 686B
    > AMD 761 North chip
    > To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the
    > on board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    > soundcard (Vibra 128).
    > After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T)
    > no video signal on monitor, no beep...
    > but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    > I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    > happened.
    > I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it
    > works fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
    >
    > I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    > setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    > the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    > could be the reason?
    >
    > My emails to Gigabyte went unanswered.
    >
    > Before buying another sound card ...I would like to have your help
    > regarding the matter.
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    > Regards,
    > Daniel _Melbourne_Australia
     
    DalienX, May 16, 2004
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  3. daniel

    Unknown Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    "daniel" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have an old pc:
    > AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    > Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    > 512 MB RAM 2700
    > MX440 Nvidia card
    > Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    > VIA south bridge chip 686B
    > AMD 761 North chip
    > To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
    > board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    > soundcard (Vibra 128).
    > After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
    > video signal on monitor, no beep...
    > but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    > I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    > happened.
    > I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
    > fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
    >
    > I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    > setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    > the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    > could be the reason?
    >


    The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
     
    Unknown, May 16, 2004
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  4. daniel

    rello Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"daniel" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> I have an old pc:
    >> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    >> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    >> 512 MB RAM 2700
    >> MX440 Nvidia card
    >> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    >> VIA south bridge chip 686B
    >> AMD 761 North chip
    >> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
    >> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    >> soundcard (Vibra 128).
    >> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
    >> video signal on monitor, no beep...
    >> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    >> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    >> happened.
    >> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
    >> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
    >>
    >> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    >> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    >> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    >> could be the reason?
    >>

    >
    >The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
    >
    >

    having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
    boot...it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
    s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a
    deadun and should be returned for refund.....if not you may have a
    crook pci slot....have you tried the card in the next pci slot?? slot?
    relloman
     
    rello, May 18, 2004
    #4
  5. daniel

    daniel Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    Thanks For your responses.
    I would like to update about the problem:
    I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system (it
    also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
    all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they all
    work fine.
    So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and vibra
    128 sound card?
    I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help either.

    Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.


    Unknown wrote:

    > "rello" <> wrote in message
    > news:40aa5975.3365108@news-server...
    > > On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >"daniel" <> wrote in message
    > > >news:...
    > > >> I have an old pc:
    > > >> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    > > >> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    > > >> 512 MB RAM 2700
    > > >> MX440 Nvidia card
    > > >> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    > > >> VIA south bridge chip 686B
    > > >> AMD 761 North chip
    > > >> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
    > > >> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    > > >> soundcard (Vibra 128).
    > > >> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
    > > >> video signal on monitor, no beep...
    > > >> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    > > >> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    > > >> happened.
    > > >> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
    > > >> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
    > > >>
    > > >> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    > > >> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    > > >> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    > > >> could be the reason?
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
    > > >
    > > >

    > > having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
    > > boot...

    >
    > Never said that. Where did you read that from what I said?
    >
    > > it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
    > > s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a

    >
    > The sound card IS dead. He as good as said that.
     
    daniel, May 18, 2004
    #5
  6. daniel

    Unknown Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    "rello" <> wrote in message
    news:40aa5975.3365108@news-server...
    > On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"daniel" <> wrote in message
    > >news:...
    > >> I have an old pc:
    > >> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
    > >> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
    > >> 512 MB RAM 2700
    > >> MX440 Nvidia card
    > >> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
    > >> VIA south bridge chip 686B
    > >> AMD 761 North chip
    > >> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
    > >> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
    > >> soundcard (Vibra 128).
    > >> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
    > >> video signal on monitor, no beep...
    > >> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
    > >> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
    > >> happened.
    > >> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
    > >> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
    > >>
    > >> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
    > >> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
    > >> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
    > >> could be the reason?
    > >>

    > >
    > >The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
    > >
    > >

    > having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
    > boot...


    Never said that. Where did you read that from what I said?

    > it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
    > s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a


    The sound card IS dead. He as good as said that.
     
    Unknown, May 18, 2004
    #6
  7. daniel

    Unknown Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    "daniel" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Thanks For your responses.
    > I would like to update about the problem:
    > I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system

    (it
    > also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
    > all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they

    all
    > work fine.
    > So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and

    vibra
    > 128 sound card?


    Assuming everything is working right at boot time (that is, prior to
    reaching windows) then no, there isnt.

    > I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help

    either.
    >
    > Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
    > Thanks.
    >


    The sound card is killing the board....that is, stopping it booting....and
    that much is plain. The next thing I would do is closely inspect the
    connectors on the sound card. It is possible they need to be cleaned.
    However, my best guess would be that on the new motherboard there is some
    sort of power shortage whether that be from the motherboard itself somewhere
    or the PSU or both combined to cause that result. Easiest thing to do is
    swap to another PSU (I personally prefer 350W or above for a P4) in and see
    what happens. Another thing to try is shove the sound card in causing the
    problem to reoccur. Now pull out all other cards but one at a time and see
    if the problem disappears. If it doesn't, pull all of them out excepting
    that sound card and see what happens. If it still happens like that, pull
    the drive power plugs out and try again. If it is happening after that, you
    got me and I would be taking the motherboard and/or sound card back.
     
    Unknown, May 19, 2004
    #7
  8. daniel

    daniel Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    I have tried many ways that you suggested:
    1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
    can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
    2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
    video card).
    3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
    drives , cd-drives. etc...
    I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
    will return it tomorrow.

    Unknown wrote:

    > "daniel" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Thanks For your responses.
    > > I would like to update about the problem:
    > > I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system

    > (it
    > > also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
    > > all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they

    > all
    > > work fine.
    > > So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and

    > vibra
    > > 128 sound card?

    >
    > Assuming everything is working right at boot time (that is, prior to
    > reaching windows) then no, there isnt.
    >
    > > I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help

    > either.
    > >
    > > Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
    > > Thanks.
    > >

    >
    > The sound card is killing the board....that is, stopping it booting....and
    > that much is plain. The next thing I would do is closely inspect the
    > connectors on the sound card. It is possible they need to be cleaned.
    > However, my best guess would be that on the new motherboard there is some
    > sort of power shortage whether that be from the motherboard itself somewhere
    > or the PSU or both combined to cause that result. Easiest thing to do is
    > swap to another PSU (I personally prefer 350W or above for a P4) in and see
    > what happens. Another thing to try is shove the sound card in causing the
    > problem to reoccur. Now pull out all other cards but one at a time and see
    > if the problem disappears. If it doesn't, pull all of them out excepting
    > that sound card and see what happens. If it still happens like that, pull
    > the drive power plugs out and try again. If it is happening after that, you
    > got me and I would be taking the motherboard and/or sound card back.
     
    daniel, May 21, 2004
    #8
  9. Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:02:48 +1000, daniel <>
    wrote:

    >I have tried many ways that you suggested:
    >1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
    >can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
    >2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
    >video card).
    >3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
    >drives , cd-drives. etc...


    This is a strange one. Initally I suspected a problem between 5Volt and
    3.3Volt PCI. But the Motherboard slots are listed as being PCI 2.2,
    which if I remember correctly, should still provide 5Volt signalling,
    for the PCI 2.1 Vibra 128 card. I suppose these might be a misprints on
    Gigabyte's website. Dunno.

    I don't see the point of the Power supply stuff, though...

    >I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
    >will return it tomorrow.


    Yeah, get one that is PCI 2.2 or 2.3 compliant, just in case.

    ______________________________________________________
    Richard Rudek. MicroDek, Chatswood, Sydney, Australia.
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
     
    Richard Rudek, May 24, 2004
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  10. daniel

    daniel Guest

    Re: Computer won't boot After Installing PCI Sound Card.Thanks

    Thanks, Richard
    I'll mention that to the pc dealer tomorrow.
    Regards,
    Daniel

    Richard Rudek wrote:

    > On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:02:48 +1000, daniel <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >I have tried many ways that you suggested:
    > >1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
    > >can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
    > >2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
    > >video card).
    > >3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
    > >drives , cd-drives. etc...

    >
    > This is a strange one. Initally I suspected a problem between 5Volt and
    > 3.3Volt PCI. But the Motherboard slots are listed as being PCI 2.2,
    > which if I remember correctly, should still provide 5Volt signalling,
    > for the PCI 2.1 Vibra 128 card. I suppose these might be a misprints on
    > Gigabyte's website. Dunno.
    >
    > I don't see the point of the Power supply stuff, though...
    >
    > >I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
    > >will return it tomorrow.

    >
    > Yeah, get one that is PCI 2.2 or 2.3 compliant, just in case.
    >
    > ______________________________________________________
    > Richard Rudek. MicroDek, Chatswood, Sydney, Australia.
    > ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
     
    daniel, May 25, 2004
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