Gripes with Win 7

Discussion in 'Computing' started by Frenton, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Frenton

    Frenton Guest

    1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom corner
    it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document maximised.
    This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake, causing you to
    lose sight of the document you were scrolling. The Desktop button should be
    on the left hand side because it should be near the start button and the
    icons of the task bar - that would be the intuitive place for it. Why did
    MS change this?

    2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer over
    a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the windows
    for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually allow a
    preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu to appear
    if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is counter-intuitive.

    3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    Nothing further need be said on it.
     
    Frenton, Oct 27, 2011
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  2. On 27/10/2011 6:42 PM, Frenton wrote:
    > 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom
    > corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document
    > maximised. This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake,
    > causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling. The
    > Desktop button should be on the left hand side because it should be near
    > the start button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the
    > intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    If you accidentally click it, then click on it again, the document you
    were looking at will come straight back up right at the position it was
    when you hit the show desktop button.
    >
    > 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer
    > over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the
    > windows for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually
    > allow a preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu
    > to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    > counter-intuitive.


    Probably because people are used to clicking there to bring up the list
    of program files. I would find that to be a pain.
    >
    > 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    > Nothing further need be said on it.
    >

    On this I agree, it is garbage.
     
    XR8 Sprintless, Oct 27, 2011
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  3. Sorry, I didn't get the original post, so I'm replying here.

    XR8 Sprintless wrote:

    >> 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom
    >> corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document
    >> maximised. This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake,
    >> causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling. The
    >> Desktop button should be on the left hand side because it should be near
    >> the start button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the
    >> intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    > If you accidentally click it, then click on it again, the document you
    > were looking at will come straight back up right at the position it was
    > when you hit the show desktop button.


    it's like saying the Clutch and Brake pedals on your car are too close
    together, and you're sick of a four wheel lockup every time you change
    gears.
    The "fix* is "just move your foot further to the left".
    That's not a suitable fix.

    Apparently it's hard coded, so there are no windows configuration
    options to change it, however, a bit of googling found this:

    <http://www.door2windows.com/windows-7-show-desktop-button-remover-remove-windows-7-show-desktop-button-with-one-click/>

    On my box it did not completely remove the desktop button, but it did
    make it a lot smaller (off the edge so it's not obtrusive anymore).
    Besides, I set the taskbar to auto-hide anyway, I like my screen
    real-estate...

    >> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    >> Nothing further need be said on it.


    > On this I agree, it is garbage.


    Never used it. I never liked Microsoft' half-arsed approach to adding
    features, when third party support does a by far superior job. (even
    freebies)

    I wrote my own based around 4NT. It has quite extensive wildcard
    abilities, and I've been using it for ages, well before anyone had
    written a purpose-built application for that.
    Not free option, but it was getting used for other things, and since
    it could do this as well...
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    John Tserkezis, Oct 27, 2011
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  4. Frenton

    Rod Speed Guest

    Frenton wrote

    > 1. Desktop button is not in good position.


    Not that clear what you mean by the desktop button,
    presumably the show desktop button.

    I very rarely use it at all, because there is nothing on
    my desktop that I use at all, particularly now I have the
    recycle bin pinned to the taskbar with Win 7. That was
    the only thing I ever used it for, to see the recycle bin.

    > Down in the right bottom corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document maximised. This
    > means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake, causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling.


    I dont even have what you call a desktop button in the
    right bottom corner with Win7, so I cant hit it accidentally.

    And I dont use the bottom scroll button very much either,
    I mostly either use the scroll wheel on the mouse or drag
    the slider when I want to do much bigger movements thru
    bug files than is convenient with the mouse scroll wheel.

    > The Desktop button should be on the left hand side


    It is with Win7. If you right mouse click near the Start
    buitton, one of the menu entrys is show desktop.

    > because it should be near the start button and the icons of the task
    > bar - that would be the intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    The most they did is drop it from the quck launch toolbar and thats
    because they merged the quick launch toolbar and the taskbar and
    now have a much better approach overeall with much more power
    and flexibility with pinning what you want to the taskbar and a much
    better way of both seeing whats currently running and opening
    commonly used tasks from the taskbar.

    The main lack is that it isnt as easy to pin the recycle bin or
    computer to the taskbar as it is with the other stuff like apps.

    > 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the
    > pointer over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display
    > which lists the windows for the task group and if you have Aero
    > enabled it can actually allow a preview of the window.


    Yes, but better than the XP approach. And easily configurable too.

    > Why then can you not cause the start menu to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    > counter-intuitive.


    True.

    > 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.


    No its not. Its quite a bit better in some areas,
    particularly with searches that involve the file name.

    The real downside is with searching that involves text within the file.

    > Nothing further need be said on it.


    Wrong.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 27, 2011
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  5. Frenton

    Don McKenzie Guest

    On 27-Oct-11 7:42 PM, Frenton wrote:
    > 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom corner it is very close to the down scroll button if
    > you have a document maximised. This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake, causing you to lose sight of
    > the document you were scrolling. The Desktop button should be on the left hand side because it should be near the start
    > button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    My Fix:
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    Cheers Don...

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    Don McKenzie, Oct 28, 2011
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  6. Frenton

    mark_ae86 Guest

    On 27/10/2011 7:42 PM, Frenton wrote:
    > 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom
    > corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document
    > maximised. This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake,
    > causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling. The
    > Desktop button should be on the left hand side because it should be near
    > the start button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the
    > intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe with
    the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time. Just
    like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you the
    startmenu. What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.

    > 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer
    > over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the
    > windows for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually
    > allow a preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu
    > to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    > counter-intuitive.


    Becuase the content of the start menu doesnt change. The idea of peek is
    that you can see what the window contains before you click it. So if you
    have multiple word docs open you can choose the right one. There is no
    need to do this with the start menu as there is only one.

    > 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    > Nothing further need be said on it.


    Rubbish.

    mark
     
    mark_ae86, Oct 28, 2011
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  7. John Tserkezis wrote:

    I've had to review my last suggestion. The software I linked to in my
    last message only operates intermittently. It worked at first, then it
    lost the plot, and no matter what I did, it wouldn't remove the Show
    Desktop button at all.

    So I've spent more time digging and found a several, but only one
    remover actually worked consistently...


    I've since found two items that are related that would be of interest:


    <http://www.thewindowsclub.com/remove-and-restore-show-desktop-button-with-showdesktop-remover>

    This one removes the Show Desktop button. On my box, it just hides the
    button and functionality but does not move the clock over to take up the
    space on the right. That's fine with me.
    More so, if you pick the third option, it creates a new executable
    that hides the button "quietly" (no user feedback or display). It is
    suitable to be placed in your startup folder (or a link to it) so the
    button is taken away at boot time.




    <http://www.godzillaseamonkey.com/what-i-really-hate-most-about-microsoft-windows-7-can-it-be-fixed/>

    The second duplicates the functionality of the Show/Hide Desktop
    button, but something you can drag to your taskbar (on the left, where
    it belong!).
    --
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    John Tserkezis, Oct 28, 2011
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  8. mark_ae86 wrote:

    > Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe with
    > the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time. Just
    > like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you the
    > startmenu. What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.


    That's nice. You suggest disabling the button without ACTUALLY
    hinting on how to do that.

    >> 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer
    >> over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the
    >> windows for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually
    >> allow a preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu
    >> to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    >> counter-intuitive.


    >> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    >> Nothing further need be said on it.


    > Rubbish.


    Ok, I'll give you that one. It might not be the *worst* in the
    history of computing, but second place isn't far off.
    --
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    John Tserkezis, Oct 28, 2011
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  9. Frenton

    mark_ae86 Guest

    On 28/10/2011 7:37 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
    > mark_ae86 wrote:
    >
    >> Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe with
    >> the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time. Just
    >> like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you the
    >> startmenu. What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.

    >
    > That's nice. You suggest disabling the button without ACTUALLY hinting
    > on how to do that.


    No I wwas saying that I dont understand why it cant be disabled. I think
    it should be easy to switch off and it isn't.

    >>> 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer
    >>> over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the
    >>> windows for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually
    >>> allow a preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu
    >>> to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    >>> counter-intuitive.

    >
    >>> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    >>> Nothing further need be said on it.

    >
    >> Rubbish.

    >
    > Ok, I'll give you that one. It might not be the *worst* in the history
    > of computing, but second place isn't far off.


    The basic searching is fast and easily accessible. It the advanced
    search that is lacking. Worst part is I dont see any improvements in
    Windows 8 yet either.

    mark
     
    mark_ae86, Oct 28, 2011
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  10. mark_ae86 wrote:
    > On 28/10/2011 7:37 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
    >> mark_ae86 wrote:
    >>
    >>> Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe with
    >>> the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time. Just
    >>> like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you the
    >>> startmenu. What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.

    >>
    >> That's nice. You suggest disabling the button without ACTUALLY hinting
    >> on how to do that.

    >
    > No I wwas saying that I dont understand why it cant be disabled. I think
    > it should be easy to switch off and it isn't.


    From what I've read, it can be just plain disabled, (though I can't
    find it now).
    In this case, the button itself is still there and visible.

    It would be *nice* to be able to move it at least, but alas, no.
    Much like my whine about the numlock. I have a short form keyboard
    that has the numeric keyboard as part of the lettered keys, and the
    numlock is on by default.
    So, every bloody time you enter the logon password, some of your
    keypresses are going to be numbers.
    One would think the ability to over-ride the system default to off
    would make perfect sense.

    >> Ok, I'll give you that one. It might not be the *worst* in the history
    >> of computing, but second place isn't far off.


    > The basic searching is fast and easily accessible. It the advanced
    > search that is lacking. Worst part is I dont see any improvements in
    > Windows 8 yet either.


    So that's why I'm still using a console search method instead?
    Windows search still sucks, whichever way you want to say it.
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    John Tserkezis, Oct 28, 2011
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  11. Frenton

    mark_ae86 Guest

    On 28/10/2011 9:22 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
    > mark_ae86 wrote:
    >> On 28/10/2011 7:37 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
    >>> mark_ae86 wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe with
    >>>> the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time. Just
    >>>> like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you the
    >>>> startmenu. What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.
    >>>
    >>> That's nice. You suggest disabling the button without ACTUALLY hinting
    >>> on how to do that.

    >>
    >> No I wwas saying that I dont understand why it cant be disabled. I think
    >> it should be easy to switch off and it isn't.

    >
    > From what I've read, it can be just plain disabled, (though I can't
    > find it now).
    > In this case, the button itself is still there and visible.
    >
    > It would be *nice* to be able to move it at least, but alas, no.
    > Much like my whine about the numlock. I have a short form keyboard that
    > has the numeric keyboard as part of the lettered keys, and the numlock
    > is on by default.
    > So, every bloody time you enter the logon password, some of your
    > keypresses are going to be numbers.
    > One would think the ability to over-ride the system default to off would
    > make perfect sense.


    Set "Boot numlock on" to disabled in the BIOS. Should sort that.

    >>> Ok, I'll give you that one. It might not be the *worst* in the history
    >>> of computing, but second place isn't far off.

    >
    >> The basic searching is fast and easily accessible. It the advanced
    >> search that is lacking. Worst part is I dont see any improvements in
    >> Windows 8 yet either.

    >
    > So that's why I'm still using a console search method instead?
    > Windows search still sucks, whichever way you want to say it.


    Searching for file names and applications has never been easier than in
    windows7. Its advanced search like date modified or last accessed and
    inside files that is a PITA. thats neither here nor there really, it can
    and should be improved on.

    mark
     
    mark_ae86, Oct 28, 2011
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  12. Frenton

    felix_unger Guest

    On 28-October-2011 4:58 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
    > On 27-Oct-11 7:42 PM, Frenton wrote:
    >> 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom
    >> corner it is very close to the down scroll button if
    >> you have a document maximised. This means you can easily hit the
    >> desktop button by mistake, causing you to lose sight of
    >> the document you were scrolling. The Desktop button should be on the
    >> left hand side because it should be near the start
    >> button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the intuitive
    >> place for it. Why did MS change this?

    >
    > My Fix:
    > http://www.godzillaseamonkey.com/what-i-really-hate-most-about-microsoft-windows-7-can-it-be-fixed/
    >
    >
    > Cheers Don...
    >
    > ==============
    >
    >


    That's great page Don. I did those things the first time you posted it.
    Thanks! :)

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    felix_unger, Oct 28, 2011
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  13. Frenton

    felix_unger Guest

    On 28-October-2011 8:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    > Frenton wrote
    >
    >> 1. Desktop button is not in good position.

    > Not that clear what you mean by the desktop button,
    > presumably the show desktop button.
    >
    > I very rarely use it at all, because there is nothing on
    > my desktop that I use at all, particularly now I have the
    > recycle bin pinned to the taskbar with Win 7. That was
    > the only thing I ever used it for, to see the recycle bin.
    >
    >> Down in the right bottom corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document maximised. This
    >> means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake, causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling.

    > I dont even have what you call a desktop button in the
    > right bottom corner with Win7, so I cant hit it accidentally.


    How come? it's a 'feature' of windoze7

    >
    > And I dont use the bottom scroll button very much either,
    > I mostly either use the scroll wheel on the mouse or drag
    > the slider when I want to do much bigger movements


    me too

    > thru
    > bug files


    ?? never knew u were a kiwi.. :)

    > than is convenient with the mouse scroll wheel.


    control and mouse wheel is good too in Adobe Reader and probably other progs

    >
    >> The Desktop button should be on the left hand side

    > It is with Win7. If you right mouse click near the Start
    > buitton, one of the menu entrys is show desktop.


    Never knew that. but actually u can click anywhere in the task bar.


    >
    >> because it should be near the start button and the icons of the task
    >> bar - that would be the intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?

    > The most they did is drop it from the quck launch toolbar and thats
    > because they merged the quick launch toolbar and the taskbar and
    > now have a much better approach overeall with much more power
    > and flexibility with pinning what you want to the taskbar and a much
    > better way of both seeing whats currently running and opening
    > commonly used tasks from the taskbar.
    >
    > The main lack is that it isnt as easy to pin the recycle bin or
    > computer to the taskbar as it is with the other stuff like apps.


    Couldn't get it to work. Maybe cos I use Norton?

    >
    >> 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the
    >> pointer over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display
    >> which lists the windows for the task group and if you have Aero
    >> enabled it can actually allow a preview of the window.

    > Yes, but better than the XP approach. And easily configurable too.
    >
    >> Why then can you not cause the start menu to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    >> counter-intuitive.

    > True.
    >
    >> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.

    > No its not. Its quite a bit better in some areas,
    > particularly with searches that involve the file name.
    >
    > The real downside is with searching that involves text within the file.
    >
    >> Nothing further need be said on it.

    > Wrong.
    >
    >



    --
    rgds,

    Pete
    ------
    "Dumping the Gillard/Brown Government is the 'greatest moral imperative of our time'"

    "If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

    "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." - Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

    "Currently, China and India combined emit 20 times as much as Australia each day, and that factor is increasing rapidly. Australia's annual savings by 2020 could be emitted by China and India within five days" - Dr. David Evans former Govt Climate Adviser.

    “What I see is a country bravely beating along to the agenda of some ideological people, in this case the socialist left of the ALP and the Greens, to take away what is a natural advantage. Most of the abatement is premised on the fact that we will buy permits from someone else. What happens at the end of the day, is that we are paying someone else to use our coal” - Peter Costello, former Federal Treasurer - http://tinyurl.com/costello-carbon-tax

    The Science is now settled on Global Warming .. http://tinyurl.com/3ufy3lq

    Carbon Dioxide Tax: Get the facts! .. http://tinyurl.com/axe-the-tax

    The corruption of science .. http://tinyurl.com/scientific-untruths

    Labors Debt: what will it cost YOU! .. http://tinyurl.com/Labors-debt

    "Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

    The Working with Children check is a joke! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-vcat
     
    felix_unger, Oct 29, 2011
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  14. Frenton

    felix_unger Guest

    On 28-October-2011 7:21 PM, mark_ae86 wrote:
    > On 27/10/2011 7:42 PM, Frenton wrote:
    >> 1. Desktop button is not in good position. Down in the right bottom
    >> corner it is very close to the down scroll button if you have a document
    >> maximised. This means you can easily hit the desktop button by mistake,
    >> causing you to lose sight of the document you were scrolling. The
    >> Desktop button should be on the left hand side because it should be near
    >> the start button and the icons of the task bar - that would be the
    >> intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?

    >
    > Completely disagree. It should be where it is so that a fast swipe
    > with the mouse to the bottom right hand side ends up on it every time.
    > Just like top right closes a maximised window and bottom left gets you
    > the startmenu.


    cool!

    > What I dont understand is why you cant simply disable it.
    >
    >> 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the pointer
    >> over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display which lists the
    >> windows for the task group and if you have Aero enabled it can actually
    >> allow a preview of the window. Why then can you not cause the start menu
    >> to appear if you run the pointer over the start menu icon? This is
    >> counter-intuitive.

    >
    > Becuase the content of the start menu doesnt change. The idea of peek
    > is that you can see what the window contains before you click it. So
    > if you have multiple word docs open you can choose the right one.
    > There is no need to do this with the start menu as there is only one.
    >
    >> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.
    >> Nothing further need be said on it.

    >
    > Rubbish.
    >
    > mark
    >



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    ------
    "Dumping the Gillard/Brown Government is the 'greatest moral imperative of our time'"

    "If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

    "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." - Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

    "Currently, China and India combined emit 20 times as much as Australia each day, and that factor is increasing rapidly. Australia's annual savings by 2020 could be emitted by China and India within five days" - Dr. David Evans former Govt Climate Adviser.

    “What I see is a country bravely beating along to the agenda of some ideological people, in this case the socialist left of the ALP and the Greens, to take away what is a natural advantage. Most of the abatement is premised on the fact that we will buy permits from someone else. What happens at the end of the day, is that we are paying someone else to use our coal” - Peter Costello, former Federal Treasurer - http://tinyurl.com/costello-carbon-tax

    The Science is now settled on Global Warming .. http://tinyurl.com/3ufy3lq

    Carbon Dioxide Tax: Get the facts! .. http://tinyurl.com/axe-the-tax

    The corruption of science .. http://tinyurl.com/scientific-untruths

    Labors Debt: what will it cost YOU! .. http://tinyurl.com/Labors-debt

    "Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

    The Working with Children check is a joke! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-vcat
     
    felix_unger, Oct 29, 2011
    #14
  15. mark_ae86 wrote:

    > Set "Boot numlock on" to disabled in the BIOS. Should sort that.


    Er, it doesn't work. I've been doing this for a while now. From back
    before the numlock status was even available within the BIOS. Besides,
    don't you think that would have been the FIRST thing I tried? :)

    Windows turns it back on again.
    The numlock led goes like the proverbial Christmas tree light while
    booting.

    > Searching for file names and applications has never been easier than in
    > windows7. Its advanced search like date modified or last accessed and
    > inside files that is a PITA. thats neither here nor there really, it can
    > and should be improved on.


    "easier than ever before" should be qualifed by "Windows Search has
    never been easier before..."
    Compared to other third party options though, it's still pretty
    crappefied.
    --
    The worst thing about censorship is **************************.
     
    John Tserkezis, Oct 29, 2011
    #15
  16. Frenton

    Rod Speed Guest

    felix_unger wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> Frenton wrote


    >>> 1. Desktop button is not in good position.


    >> Not that clear what you mean by the desktop button,
    >> presumably the show desktop button.


    >> I very rarely use it at all, because there is nothing on
    >> my desktop that I use at all, particularly now I have the
    >> recycle bin pinned to the taskbar with Win 7. That was
    >> the only thing I ever used it for, to see the recycle bin.


    >>> Down in the right bottom corner it is very close to the down scroll
    >>> button if you have a document maximised. This means you can easily
    >>> hit the desktop button by mistake, causing you to lose sight of the
    >>> document you were scrolling.


    >> I dont even have what you call a desktop button in the
    >> right bottom corner with Win7, so I cant hit it accidentally.


    > How come? it's a 'feature' of windoze7


    Its not a button, said that a bit cryptically. In fact until you mentioned
    it I hadnt even noticed that whateveryoucallit, shows how often I
    managed to invoke it accidentally. Corse I do have the taskbar set
    to autohide so its less likely to happen accidentally in my case.

    >> And I dont use the bottom scroll button very much either,
    >> I mostly either use the scroll wheel on the mouse or drag
    >> the slider when I want to do much bigger movements


    > me too


    >> thru bug files


    > ?? never knew u were a kiwi.. :)


    Down, boy.

    >> than is convenient with the mouse scroll wheel.


    > control and mouse wheel is good too in Adobe Reader


    Yeah, tho the lack of a Back button with the mouse to return
    to the previous page when you get into it with a browser is a
    complete pain in the arse IMO.

    > and probably other progs


    Yeah, the only real place I keep cursing the lack of it is with
    code with Access 2003 etc.

    >>> The Desktop button should be on the left hand side

    >> It is with Win7. If you right mouse click near the Start
    >> buitton, one of the menu entrys is show desktop.


    > Never knew that. but actually u can click anywhere in the task bar.


    I hadnt noticed that taskbar thing myself. Shows you how rarely I ever use it.

    >>> because it should be near the start button and the icons of the task
    >>> bar - that would be the intuitive place for it. Why did MS change this?


    >> The most they did is drop it from the quck launch toolbar and thats
    >> because they merged the quick launch toolbar and the taskbar and
    >> now have a much better approach overeall with much more power
    >> and flexibility with pinning what you want to the taskbar and a much
    >> better way of both seeing whats currently running and opening
    >> commonly used tasks from the taskbar.


    >> The main lack is that it isnt as easy to pin the recycle bin or
    >> computer to the taskbar as it is with the other stuff like apps.


    > Couldn't get it to work.


    You cant do it with the standard Win7 UI.
    http://tweaks.com/windows/39476/pin-recycle-bin-on-the-taskbar/

    > Maybe cos I use Norton?


    Nope, it isnt part of the standard Win7 UI even without Nortons.

    >>> 2. Win 7 introduced the nice feature of being able to run the
    >>> pointer over a task bar icon which causes a small box to display
    >>> which lists the windows for the task group and if you have Aero
    >>> enabled it can actually allow a preview of the window.


    >> Yes, but better than the XP approach. And easily configurable too.


    >>> Why then can you not cause the start menu to appear if you run the
    >>> pointer over the start menu icon? This is counter-intuitive.


    >> True.


    >>> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.


    >> No its not. Its quite a bit better in some areas,
    >> particularly with searches that involve the file name.


    And the start menu in spades.

    Its very convenient to be able to type in say restore point and
    get the obvious alts both to launch it and for help on it etc.

    >> The real downside is with searching that involves text within the file.


    >>> Nothing further need be said on it.


    >> Wrong.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 29, 2011
    #16
  17. Frenton

    Rod Speed Guest

    John Tserkezis wrote

    > Much like my whine about the numlock. I have a short form keyboard
    > that has the numeric keyboard as part of the lettered keys, and the
    > numlock is on by default.


    > So, every bloody time you enter the logon password, some of your
    > keypresses are going to be numbers.


    > One would think the ability to over-ride the system default to off
    > would make perfect sense.


    It does
    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ctive-at/7b48ae6f-fa9c-4bc2-8359-81e0c5e5d6a2
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 29, 2011
    #17
  18. Rod Speed wrote:

    >> One would think the ability to over-ride the system default to off
    >> would make perfect sense.


    > It does
    > http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ctive-at/7b48ae6f-fa9c-4bc2-8359-81e0c5e5d6a2


    Been there done that.
    I remember this being one of the proposed fixes when I started looking.


    I've just checked again, most are set to "0", with some, at some other
    number.
    But that's now, I hadn't touched them for ages, and I had initially
    set them all to 0.

    The other problem is, that most if not all those settings are tied
    around the *current* windows settings of what the last user was doing.
    They're dynamic settings around what the user selects.

    I wanted to completely override that, and force it to off regardless
    of what the previous settings were.

    And that works for me.
    --
    The thrill is gone, the thrill is gone baby
     
    John Tserkezis, Oct 29, 2011
    #18
  19. Frenton

    Rod Speed Guest

    John Tserkezis wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> John Tserkezis wrote


    >>> Much like my whine about the numlock. I have a short form keyboard that has the numeric keyboard as part of the
    >>> lettered keys, and the numlock is on by default.


    >>> So, every bloody time you enter the logon password, some of your keypresses are going to be numbers.


    >>> One would think the ability to over-ride the system default to off would make perfect sense.


    >> It does
    >> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ctive-at/7b48ae6f-fa9c-4bc2-8359-81e0c5e5d6a2


    > Been there done that.


    Dont believe you did it properly given that it works for everyone else.

    > I remember this being one of the proposed fixes when I started looking.


    Then you must have stuffed it up, because thats clearly what that registry key is there for.

    > I've just checked again, most are set to "0", with some, at some other number.


    Then thats the problem, you dont have them ALL set the way you want it to be done.

    That cite says that very explicitly.

    > But that's now, I hadn't touched them for ages, and I had initially set them all to 0.


    In just dont believe that Win7 is changing them behind your back and it must
    be possible to work out what is changing them if something else is doing that.

    > The other problem is, that most if not all those settings are tied
    > around the *current* windows settings of what the last user was doing. They're dynamic settings around what the user
    > selects.


    No they arent in the sense of what matters when Win7 starts.

    If they were, no one would have found his solution works.

    > I wanted to completely override that, and force it to off regardless of what the previous settings were.


    And thats what it does.

    > And that works for me.


    You previously claimed that it doesnt.
     
    Rod Speed, Oct 29, 2011
    #19
  20. Frenton

    keithr Guest

    On 28/10/2011 8:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

    >> 3. The File Search utility is the worst in the history of computing.

    >
    > No its not. Its quite a bit better in some areas,
    > particularly with searches that involve the file name.
    >
    > The real downside is with searching that involves text within the file.


    That is a major downside, a real backward step from XP. You can do it
    but you have to jump through hoops of fire. The old method was really
    good if you had directories full of source code and you were looking for
    a particular variable name.
     
    keithr, Oct 29, 2011
    #20
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