From "recent calls" to contacts ?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by JF Mezei, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. JF Mezei

    JF Mezei Guest

    I get a phone call.

    The entry in the recent calls shows "John Doe" (caller ID).

    If I click on it, it automatically starts to dial the number. For all I
    know, it is to some very expensive country that will cost me $15.00/second.

    I need to click on the microscopic arrow on the right to get the details.

    But from there, I can't see any option to add this to a contact. Is
    there a trick to add a recently received call to the contacts ?


    Also, is there a way to clear
    an individual entry, or perhaps all entrys in "missed calls" without
    clearing the rest ?
     
    JF Mezei, Dec 24, 2010
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  2. In article <4d14021d$0$9736$c3e8da3$>,
    JF Mezei <> wrote:

    > The entry in the recent calls shows "John Doe" (caller ID).
    >
    > If I click on it, it automatically starts to dial the number. For all I
    > know, it is to some very expensive country that will cost me
    > $15.00/second.
    >
    > I need to click on the microscopic arrow on the right to get the
    > details.
    >
    > But from there, I can't see any option to add this to a contact. Is
    > there a trick to add a recently received call to the contacts ?


    Yes; click on the big button that says "create new contact". It's the
    fourth button down (first button in the second group of buttons).

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 24, 2010
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  3. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article <4d14021d$0$9736$c3e8da3$>, JF
    Mezei <> wrote:

    > Also, is there a way to clear
    > an individual entry, or perhaps all entrys in "missed calls" without
    > clearing the rest ?


    nope. you can't delete individual calls from the list, which is
    incredibly stupid. you might be able to delete all missed calls if you
    are only looking at the missed calls list (never tried that).
     
    nospam, Dec 24, 2010
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  4. JF Mezei

    Wes Groleau Guest

    On 12-23-2010 21:26, nospam wrote:
    > In article<4d14021d$0$9736$c3e8da3$>, JF
    > Mezei<> wrote:
    >
    >> Also, is there a way to clear
    >> an individual entry, or perhaps all entrys in "missed calls" without
    >> clearing the rest ?

    >
    > nope. you can't delete individual calls from the list, which is
    > incredibly stupid. you might be able to delete all missed calls if you
    > are only looking at the missed calls list (never tried that).


    Nope, can't do that either.

    Solution: Jailbreak the phone, use 'vi' to edit the list,
    then restore the O.S. But first, think long and hard
    about the meaning of the punctuation below.

    :)

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    Wes Groleau

    Why some kids act strange
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    Wes Groleau, Dec 24, 2010
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  5. JF Mezei

    JF Mezei Guest

    Michelle Steiner wrote:

    > Yes; click on the big button that says "create new contact". It's the
    > fourth button down (first button in the second group of buttons).


    I had not realised one could scroll down on the recent call details.
    There isn't a scroll bar there. (actually there is , bit it quickly
    disapears).

    Learn something everyday.

    But really, when you click on the recent call, it should display the
    details instead of automatically calling the number.
     
    JF Mezei, Dec 24, 2010
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  6. In article <4d14aa6d$0$26669$c3e8da3$>,
    JF Mezei <> wrote:

    > > Yes; click on the big button that says "create new contact". It's the
    > > fourth button down (first button in the second group of buttons).

    >
    > I had not realised one could scroll down on the recent call details.
    > There isn't a scroll bar there. (actually there is , bit it quickly
    > disapears).


    On my iPhone, you don't have to scroll to see that button.

    Regardless, there are no scroll bars per se in iOS; it is not a
    mouse-driven device, so scroll bars are not necessary.

    > But really, when you click on the recent call, it should display the
    > details instead of automatically calling the number.


    When you tap on any phone number, it calls that number. To do it
    differently for recent calls would involve special casing. Just tap the
    arrow to get the info screen, just as with the other lists.

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    Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 24, 2010
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  7. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > > Yes; click on the big button that says "create new contact". It's the
    > > > fourth button down (first button in the second group of buttons).

    > >
    > > I had not realised one could scroll down on the recent call details.
    > > There isn't a scroll bar there. (actually there is , bit it quickly
    > > disapears).

    >
    > On my iPhone, you don't have to scroll to see that button.
    >
    > Regardless, there are no scroll bars per se in iOS; it is not a
    > mouse-driven device, so scroll bars are not necessary.


    true but if you open settings which scrolls, the scroll bar appears for
    a moment and then fades away, so you know you have that option.

    when you open the recent call list, the scroll bar doesn't appear at
    all. the last entry is partially obscured though, suggesting that you
    can scroll to see it and anything after it.

    > > But really, when you click on the recent call, it should display the
    > > details instead of automatically calling the number.

    >
    > When you tap on any phone number, it calls that number. To do it
    > differently for recent calls would involve special casing. Just tap the
    > arrow to get the info screen, just as with the other lists.


    the problem is that it's too easy to accidentally call if you tap and
    miss the arrow. been there done that. plus, most of the time i want
    information about the call rather than to call them back, which if i
    wanted to do that, i'd just do it from contacts.
     
    nospam, Dec 24, 2010
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  8. In article <241220101242004647%>,
    nospam <> wrote:

    > > Regardless, there are no scroll bars per se in iOS; it is not a
    > > mouse-driven device, so scroll bars are not necessary.

    >
    > true but if you open settings which scrolls, the scroll bar appears for
    > a moment and then fades away, so you know you have that option.


    Well, that's not really a scroll bar, but an indicator of the view within
    the overall page.

    > when you open the recent call list, the scroll bar doesn't appear at
    > all.


    It appears for me; I just tried it. Besides, that's not what we were
    discussing; we were discussing the page that appears after you tap one of
    the blue and white arrows on the right of of the items in the list.

    > the problem is that it's too easy to accidentally call if you tap and
    > miss the arrow. been there done that.


    Yeah, me too; two or three times, three years ago.

    > plus, most of the time i want information about the call rather than to
    > call them back, which if i wanted to do that, i'd just do it from
    > contacts.


    Contacts doesn't show you the date and time of the call, nor the length of
    time of the connection. (Length, of course, does not apply to missed
    calls, but it does apply to completed calls, both incoming and outgoing.)

    Further, I find it much easier to click on the arrow then to click the
    contacts icon and find the person's entry.

    Finally, Contacts doesn't show anything for calls that are not already in
    the address book. If you want to add that number to your contacts, you
    click the arrow, get the data page for the number, enter whatever
    additional information you want, and tap "Share Contact."

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 24, 2010
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  9. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > > Regardless, there are no scroll bars per se in iOS; it is not a
    > > > mouse-driven device, so scroll bars are not necessary.

    > >
    > > true but if you open settings which scrolls, the scroll bar appears for
    > > a moment and then fades away, so you know you have that option.

    >
    > Well, that's not really a scroll bar, but an indicator of the view within
    > the overall page.


    that *is* a scroll bar and appears whenever you touch an area and start
    moving your finger to scroll and it disappears when you stop.

    there has even been some concern that these hidden scroll bars may be
    in lion, which if so would be bad.

    > > when you open the recent call list, the scroll bar doesn't appear at
    > > all.

    >
    > It appears for me; I just tried it.


    it doesn't for me unless i start scrolling. it does not appear at
    launch as with other apps. you might be running a different version of
    the firmware.

    > Besides, that's not what we were
    > discussing; we were discussing the page that appears after you tap one of
    > the blue and white arrows on the right of of the items in the list.


    that, and the fact that jf mezei didn't think the recent items list
    could scroll.

    > > plus, most of the time i want information about the call rather than to
    > > call them back, which if i wanted to do that, i'd just do it from
    > > contacts.

    >
    > Contacts doesn't show you the date and time of the call, nor the length of
    > time of the connection. (Length, of course, does not apply to missed
    > calls, but it does apply to completed calls, both incoming and outgoing.)


    which doesn't usually matter if you know you want to call someone,
    although in some cases it might.

    it would also be nice to separate incoming and outgoing, along with a
    host of other useful features commonly found in standard cellphones.
    oddly enough, the phone part of the iphone is one of the weakest parts.
     
    nospam, Dec 24, 2010
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  10. In article <241220101533488679%>,
    nospam <> wrote:

    > > Well, that's not really a scroll bar, but an indicator of the view
    > > within the overall page.

    >
    > that *is* a scroll bar and appears whenever you touch an area and start
    > moving your finger to scroll and it disappears when you stop.


    Right but you don't manipulate it. A scroll bar is like what is on the Mac
    and Windows where you drag something on the bar or click on it to cause the
    window to scroll.

    > > > when you open the recent call list, the scroll bar doesn't appear at
    > > > all.

    > >
    > > It appears for me; I just tried it.

    >
    > it doesn't for me unless i start scrolling. it does not appear at launch
    > as with other apps. you might be running a different version of the
    > firmware.


    I'm running 4.2.1

    > > > plus, most of the time i want information about the call rather than
    > > > to call them back, which if i wanted to do that, i'd just do it from
    > > > contacts.

    > >
    > > Contacts doesn't show you the date and time of the call, nor the
    > > length of time of the connection. (Length, of course, does not apply
    > > to missed calls, but it does apply to completed calls, both incoming
    > > and outgoing.)

    >
    > which doesn't usually matter if you know you want to call someone,
    > although in some cases it might.


    If you want to call them, you just tap their name or number.

    > it would also be nice to separate incoming and outgoing,


    I agree, and also to delete missed calls without deleting all calls.

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 24, 2010
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  11. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > > Well, that's not really a scroll bar, but an indicator of the view
    > > > within the overall page.

    > >
    > > that *is* a scroll bar and appears whenever you touch an area and start
    > > moving your finger to scroll and it disappears when you stop.

    >
    > Right but you don't manipulate it. A scroll bar is like what is on the Mac
    > and Windows where you drag something on the bar or click on it to cause the
    > window to scroll.


    true, but that's because to scroll on an iphone/ipad you use gestures
    anywhere in the view, not click a scroll bar, sort of like dragging
    something to the edge of a window and it autoscrolls.

    > > > > when you open the recent call list, the scroll bar doesn't appear at
    > > > > all.
    > > >
    > > > It appears for me; I just tried it.

    > >
    > > it doesn't for me unless i start scrolling. it does not appear at launch
    > > as with other apps. you might be running a different version of the
    > > firmware.

    >
    > I'm running 4.2.1


    the phone i tried was 3.1.3.
     
    nospam, Dec 24, 2010
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  12. In article <241220101715576427%>,
    nospam <> wrote:

    > > Right but you don't manipulate it. A scroll bar is like what is on
    > > the Mac and Windows where you drag something on the bar or click on it
    > > to cause the window to scroll.

    >
    > true, but that's because to scroll on an iphone/ipad you use gestures
    > anywhere in the view, not click a scroll bar, sort of like dragging
    > something to the edge of a window and it autoscrolls.


    With the Magic Touchpad on my Mac, I can scroll the same way using two
    finger drags. Ditto with the surface of the Magic Mouse or with the scroll
    ball on the Apple (Nee: Mighty) Mouse.

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 24, 2010
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  13. JF Mezei

    Guest

    Tom Harrington <> writes:

    > Apple calls it a "scroll indicator". It's intended to show your location
    > within a scrolling view, but it does not respond to taps or drags.


    And man is it helpful to have the ability to tap at the top of
    the screen and scroll right to the top. I really wish there
    were something similar to scroll to the bottom (or better, to
    random percentages of the way down). Sometimes I have pages
    which are quite long (ie. long e-mail especially, or long
    lists to scroll through) where the repeated swipe, swipe, swipe
    is really annoying.

    Some (few) apps actually to add or superimpose a real scrollbar
    if you like. It'd be nice if Apple would come up with a decent
    system-wide one.

    --
    Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
     
    , Dec 25, 2010
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  14. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article <>,
    Jolly Roger <> wrote:

    > > Apple calls it a "scroll indicator". It's intended to show your location
    > > within a scrolling view, but it does not respond to taps or drags.

    >
    > nospam will likely continue to insist it's a "scroll bar" despite what
    > Apple themselves call it. He just cannot admit he's wrong.


    so now you've resorted to semantic games? does it really matter if it's
    called a scroll bar or a scroll indicator? people know what i meant.
     
    nospam, Dec 25, 2010
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  15. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article <>,
    <> wrote:

    > And man is it helpful to have the ability to tap at the top of
    > the screen and scroll right to the top. I really wish there
    > were something similar to scroll to the bottom (or better, to
    > random percentages of the way down). Sometimes I have pages
    > which are quite long (ie. long e-mail especially, or long
    > lists to scroll through) where the repeated swipe, swipe, swipe
    > is really annoying.


    some apps offer a gesture to scroll to the bottom (one of the browsers
    i tried had it but i forget which one). it would be nice if it was
    systemwide though, since it's a real pain to swipe swipe swipe.
     
    nospam, Dec 25, 2010
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  16. In article <241220102004212665%>,
    nospam <> wrote:

    > some apps offer a gesture to scroll to the bottom (one of the browsers i
    > tried had it but i forget which one). it would be nice if it was
    > systemwide though, since it's a real pain to swipe swipe swipe.


    A bit better than swipe swipe swipe is flick flick flick, but a jump to the
    bottom gesture is, as you and others said, much better.

    --
    Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 25, 2010
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  17. In article <241220102004192552%>,
    nospam <> wrote:

    > > > Apple calls it a "scroll indicator". It's intended to show your
    > > > location within a scrolling view, but it does not respond to taps or
    > > > drags.

    > >
    > > nospam will likely continue to insist it's a "scroll bar" despite what
    > > Apple themselves call it. He just cannot admit he's wrong.

    >
    > so now you've resorted to semantic games? does it really matter if it's
    > called a scroll bar or a scroll indicator? people know what i meant.


    It's more than semantics because "scroll bar" has a definite meaning that
    indicates you can drag an indicator in the bar or click (or tap in the case
    of the iOS) in the bar or at its top and/or bottom. The scroll indicator
    doesn't do any of that; all it does is let you know approximately where you
    are in the document.

    --
    Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Dec 25, 2010
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  18. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > > > Apple calls it a "scroll indicator". It's intended to show your
    > > > > location within a scrolling view, but it does not respond to taps or
    > > > > drags.
    > > >
    > > > nospam will likely continue to insist it's a "scroll bar" despite what
    > > > Apple themselves call it. He just cannot admit he's wrong.

    > >
    > > so now you've resorted to semantic games? does it really matter if it's
    > > called a scroll bar or a scroll indicator? people know what i meant.

    >
    > It's more than semantics because "scroll bar" has a definite meaning that
    > indicates you can drag an indicator in the bar or click (or tap in the case
    > of the iOS) in the bar or at its top and/or bottom. The scroll indicator
    > doesn't do any of that; all it does is let you know approximately where you
    > are in the document.


    it's semantics. did you not know what i meant because i said scroll bar
    and not scroll indicator?

    people often don't use the correct terms yet somehow they manage to
    still communicate. when someone says right-click do you tell them it
    really should be called a secondary click because apple trackpads don't
    have right (or left) buttons? ever hear anyone say 'click the secondary
    button' ?
     
    nospam, Dec 25, 2010
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  19. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article <>,
    Jolly Roger <> wrote:

    > > > > Apple calls it a "scroll indicator". It's intended to show your
    > > > > location
    > > > > within a scrolling view, but it does not respond to taps or drags.
    > > >
    > > > nospam will likely continue to insist it's a "scroll bar" despite what
    > > > Apple themselves call it. He just cannot admit he's wrong.

    > >
    > > so now you've resorted to semantic games? does it really matter if it's
    > > called a scroll bar or a scroll indicator? people know what i meant.

    >
    > You are the one playing semantic games, pal - not me:


    first of all i'm not your pal (far from it) and second of all it's not
    i who is playing semantic games.

    > In article <241220101533488679%>,
    > nospam <> wrote:
    >
    > > In article
    > > <>,
    > > Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Well, that's not really a scroll bar, but an indicator of the view within
    > > > the overall page.

    > >
    > > that *is* a scroll bar and appears whenever you touch an area and start
    > > moving your finger to scroll and it disappears when you stop.

    >
    > Don't project.


    i'm not. yes, the correct term is scroll indicator but people still
    call it a scroll bar and only a moron wouldn't understand what was
    meant by it. what you're doing is nothing more than semantic
    nitpicking. people also say click a button (on the iphone) when it's
    really tap. big fucking deal.

    > And it's still a fact that you can't admit you are wrong.


    it isn't a fact at all (except in your imagination).
     
    nospam, Dec 25, 2010
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  20. JF Mezei

    nospam Guest

    In article
    <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > some apps offer a gesture to scroll to the bottom (one of the browsers i
    > > tried had it but i forget which one). it would be nice if it was
    > > systemwide though, since it's a real pain to swipe swipe swipe.

    >
    > A bit better than swipe swipe swipe is flick flick flick, but a jump to the
    > bottom gesture is, as you and others said, much better.


    since nitpicking seems to be in vogue, there is no flick gesture, only
    swipe, but it's obvious what you mean even though you are using the
    wrong term.

    the official gesture recognizers are:

    UITapGestureRecognizer
    UIPinchGestureRecognizer
    UIRotationGestureRecognizer
    UISwipeGestureRecognizer
    UIPanGestureRecognizer
    UILongPressGestureRecognizer

    <http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/UIKit/Reference/U
    IGestureRecognizer_Class/Reference/Reference.html%23//apple_ref/occ/cl/U
    IGestureRecognizer>

    and looking at the swipe recognizer,

    Swipes can be slow or fast. A slow swipe requires high directional
    precision but a small distance; a fast swipe requires low directional
    precision but a large distance.

    <http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/UIKit/Reference/U
    ISwipeGestureRecognizer_Class/Reference/Reference.html%23//apple_ref/occ
    /cl/UISwipeGestureRecognizer>

    therefore, to scroll to the bottom of a view, the comparison is
    actually 'slow swipe, slow swipe, slow swipe' versus 'fast swipe, fast
    swipe, fast swipe'.
     
    nospam, Dec 25, 2010
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