Check disk for iPad?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Howard Brazee, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
    tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
    before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
    continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.

    One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
    each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.

    I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
    should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
    from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.
     
    Howard Brazee, Jan 2, 2012
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  2. Howard Brazee

    Ed Cryer Guest

    Howard Brazee wrote:
    > My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
    > tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
    > before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
    > continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
    >
    > One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
    > each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
    >
    > I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
    > should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
    > from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.


    You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    How do we check, change or repair these?

    On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
    Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Jan 2, 2012
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  3. Howard Brazee

    nospam Guest

    In article <jdstnj$d9j$>, Ed Cryer
    <> wrote:

    > > My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
    > > tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
    > > before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
    > > continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
    > >
    > > One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
    > > each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
    > >
    > > I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
    > > should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
    > > from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.

    >
    > You've raised a big question here.


    no he hasn't. those apps are buggy. well written apps do not crash on
    launch.

    > Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    > How do we check, change or repair these?


    fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
    those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
    the screen.

    > On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
    > Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?


    reboot the ipad, but there's rarely a need.
     
    nospam, Jan 2, 2012
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  4. Howard Brazee

    Charles Guest

    In article <jdstnj$d9j$>, Ed Cryer
    <> wrote:

    > You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    > How do we check, change or repair these?
    >
    > On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
    > Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?


    There is no hard drive on iPads.....

    Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
    there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

    --
    Charles
     
    Charles, Jan 2, 2012
    #4
  5. Howard Brazee

    nospam Guest

    In article <020120121418547850%>, Charles
    <> wrote:

    > > You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    > > How do we check, change or repair these?
    > >
    > > On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
    > > Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?

    >
    > There is no hard drive on iPads.....
    >
    > Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
    > there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.


    there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
    systems.
     
    nospam, Jan 2, 2012
    #5
  6. On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:58 -0800, nospam <>
    wrote:

    >> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
    >> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

    >
    >there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
    >systems.


    No, but periodically I run the Disk Utility on my Mac, and often it
    does find problems.

    --
    "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Jan 2, 2012
    #6
  7. Howard Brazee

    Wes Groleau Guest

    On 01-02-2012 14:05, nospam wrote:
    > <> wrote:
    >> Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    >> How do we check, change or repair these?

    >
    > fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
    > those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
    > the screen.


    fsck might have some value, but defragmentation is almost useless when
    the "drive" is flash memory.

    There will be some overhead in reassembling a lot of small fragments
    into one block, but it will be miniscule compared to the main benefit of
    defrag, which is to minimize time wasted moving the read/write head all
    over the place.

    Many flash products nowadays have firmware that causes fragmentation, in
    order to reduce "wear-out" by giving all sections of the memory equal
    usage. Running defrag on those will accomplish nothing other
    then waste write cycles.

    --
    Wes Groleau

    Free speech has its limits
    http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=99
     
    Wes Groleau, Jan 2, 2012
    #7
  8. Howard Brazee

    nospam Guest

    In article <jdt9dt$mo7$>, Wes Groleau
    <> wrote:

    > >> Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    > >> How do we check, change or repair these?

    > >
    > > fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
    > > those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
    > > the screen.

    >
    > fsck might have some value, but defragmentation is almost useless when
    > the "drive" is flash memory.


    for flash, it's worse than useless. it's a really bad idea for the
    reasons you cite, wear-leveling and the access time for flash is the
    same regardless of where the data actually is so it doesn't matter if
    files are fragmented or not.

    for hard drives, defragmenting is rarely needed except in specific
    circumstances such as video capture. it can also make things worse in
    some cases because defragmenting can affect hot clustered files which
    are put in a specific location on the hard drive for quick access.

    > There will be some overhead in reassembling a lot of small fragments
    > into one block, but it will be miniscule compared to the main benefit of
    > defrag, which is to minimize time wasted moving the read/write head all
    > over the place.
    >
    > Many flash products nowadays have firmware that causes fragmentation, in
    > order to reduce "wear-out" by giving all sections of the memory equal
    > usage. Running defrag on those will accomplish nothing other
    > then waste write cycles.
     
    nospam, Jan 2, 2012
    #8
  9. Howard Brazee

    Lloyd Guest

    In article <jdstnj$d9j$>,
    Ed Cryer <> wrote:

    > Howard Brazee wrote:
    > > My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
    > > tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
    > > before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
    > > continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
    > >
    > > One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
    > > each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
    > >
    > > I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
    > > should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
    > > from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.

    >
    > You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
    > How do we check, change or repair these?
    >
    > On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
    > Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?
    >
    > Ed


    There is no hard drive in an iPad. And nothing like check disk for it
    either that I'm aware of.
     
    Lloyd, Jan 2, 2012
    #9
  10. Howard Brazee

    Lloyd Guest

    In article <>,
    Howard Brazee <> wrote:

    > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:58 -0800, nospam <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
    > >> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

    > >
    > >there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
    > >systems.

    >
    > No, but periodically I run the Disk Utility on my Mac, and often it
    > does find problems.


    I used to do that too. The problems it finds never seemed to be an
    issue, so I quit doing it and have never had a problem because I did.
     
    Lloyd, Jan 2, 2012
    #10
  11. Howard Brazee

    Erilar Guest

    Tom Stiller <> wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Howard Brazee <> wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:58 -0800, nospam <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
    >>>> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.
    >>>
    >>> there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
    >>> systems.

    >>
    >> No, but periodically I run the Disk Utility on my Mac, and often it
    >> does find problems.

    >
    > Then if I were you, I'd start worrying about a disk failure.


    Question : why on earth is someone talking about flash memory in relation
    to an iPad question?

    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Jan 2, 2012
    #11
  12. Howard Brazee

    Wes Groleau Guest

    On 01-02-2012 18:05, Erilar wrote:
    > Question : why on earth is someone talking about flash memory in relation
    > to an iPad question?


    It's the only kind of long-term storage in any iPad.

    --
    Wes Groleau

    German Teachers
    http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=81
     
    Wes Groleau, Jan 2, 2012
    #12
  13. Howard Brazee

    nospam Guest

    In article <jdtd8j$eb7$>, Erilar
    <> wrote:

    > Question : why on earth is someone talking about flash memory in relation
    > to an iPad question?


    because that's what it has inside.
     
    nospam, Jan 2, 2012
    #13
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