Boot Problem

Discussion in 'Computing' started by The Old Bloke, Mar 23, 2010.

  1. I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate

    Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    power down.

    Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    no files were changed by SR.

    However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.

    I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    This is again bizarre.

    The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    discache
    MpFilter
    SaibVdAd64
    spldr
    vpcvmm
    Wanarpv6"

    However on each failure the errors vary a lot.

    After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    occasionally boot.

    Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.

    I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.

    Regards
    Doug
     
    The Old Bloke, Mar 23, 2010
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  2. On 23/03/2010 11:32 PM, The Old Bloke wrote:
    > I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >
    > Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    > then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    > get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    > mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    > power down.
    >
    > Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    > after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    > antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    > no files were changed by SR.
    >
    > However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    > next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >
    > I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    > programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    > This is again bizarre.
    >
    > The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    > or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    > discache
    > MpFilter
    > SaibVdAd64
    > spldr
    > vpcvmm
    > Wanarpv6"
    >
    > However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >
    > After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    > occasionally boot.
    >
    > Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    > drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >
    > I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >
    > Regards
    > Doug

    What antivirus are you running? I have seen issues like that when the AV
    (especially Internet Security Packages) damage the Winsock entries and
    create problems with booting, Try the following from an administrator
    command prompt

    netsh int ip reset

    Which will reset your TCP/IP stack and clean out any problems

    another to try is

    netsh winsock reset

    or

    netsh winsock reset proxy.


    You need to restart after them to get things going again.
     
    XR8 Sprintless, Mar 23, 2010
    #2
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  3. The Old Bloke

    Acacia Guest

    Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
    http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
    You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
    http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRAB=blackscreenfix

    "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >
    > Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    > then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    > get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    > mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    > power down.
    >
    > Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    > after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    > antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    > no files were changed by SR.
    >
    > However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    > next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >
    > I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    > programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    > This is again bizarre.
    >
    > The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    > or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    > discache
    > MpFilter
    > SaibVdAd64
    > spldr
    > vpcvmm
    > Wanarpv6"
    >
    > However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >
    > After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    > occasionally boot.
    >
    > Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    > drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >
    > I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >
    > Regards
    > Doug
     
    Acacia, Mar 24, 2010
    #3
  4. The Old Bloke

    Farticus Guest

    "Acacia" <> wrote in message
    news:fonqn.109202$1.easynews.com...
    > Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
    > http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
    > You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
    > http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRAB=blackscreenfix
    >
    > "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >>
    >> Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    >> then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    >> get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    >> mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    >> power down.
    >>
    >> Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    >> after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    >> antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    >> no files were changed by SR.
    >>
    >> However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    >> next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >>
    >> I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    >> programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    >> This is again bizarre.
    >>
    >> The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    >> or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    >> discache
    >> MpFilter
    >> SaibVdAd64
    >> spldr
    >> vpcvmm
    >> Wanarpv6"
    >>
    >> However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >>
    >> After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    >> occasionally boot.
    >>
    >> Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    >> drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >>
    >> I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >>
    >> Regards
    >> Doug

    >

    I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left of
    my hair.
    The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and stop
    there.
    Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).

    I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
    another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
    Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
    of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
    Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!
     
    Farticus, Mar 25, 2010
    #4
  5. The Old Bloke

    SG1 Guest

    "Farticus" <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:F8Aqn.14882$...
    > "Acacia" <> wrote in message
    > news:fonqn.109202$1.easynews.com...
    >> Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
    >> http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
    >> You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
    >> http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRAB=blackscreenfix
    >>
    >> "The Old Bloke" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >>>
    >>> Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    >>> then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    >>> get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    >>> mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    >>> power down.
    >>>
    >>> Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    >>> after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    >>> antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    >>> no files were changed by SR.
    >>>
    >>> However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    >>> next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >>>
    >>> I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    >>> programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    >>> This is again bizarre.
    >>>
    >>> The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    >>> or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    >>> discache
    >>> MpFilter
    >>> SaibVdAd64
    >>> spldr
    >>> vpcvmm
    >>> Wanarpv6"
    >>>
    >>> However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >>>
    >>> After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    >>> occasionally boot.
    >>>
    >>> Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    >>> drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >>>
    >>> I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >>>
    >>> Regards
    >>> Doug

    >>

    > I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left
    > of my hair.
    > The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and
    > stop there.
    > Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).
    >
    > I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
    > another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
    > Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the
    > back of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially
    > disslodged.
    > Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!


    Don't ya luv it, blaming M$ for a fault and it was the operator??????

    >
    >
     
    SG1, Mar 25, 2010
    #5
  6. Hi XR8 and Acacia

    I may have fixed it. Fingers crossed.

    When the PC didn't finish its boot, it collected a bucket of errors in
    the Event Viewer, and these changed considerably with each failure.

    After hours of going through the Event logs, one process always came
    up each time there was a boot failure. It was Microsoft Security
    Essentials.

    I uninstalled, cleaned the registry files again. And the PC booted.
    Now it has occasionally booted OK before, so I am still not sure I
    have a fix. I reinstalled Microsoft Security Essentials. It's been
    two days with many reboots (just to test) and the PC has booted
    normally every time.

    Fingers crossed.

    Many thanks for the feedback!
    Regards
    Doug
     
    The Old Bloke, Mar 25, 2010
    #6
  7. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:
    > "Acacia"<> wrote in message
    > news:fonqn.109202$1.easynews.com...
    >> Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
    >> http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
    >> You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
    >> http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRAB=blackscreenfix
    >>
    >> "The Old Bloke"<> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >>>
    >>> Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    >>> then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    >>> get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    >>> mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    >>> power down.
    >>>
    >>> Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    >>> after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    >>> antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    >>> no files were changed by SR.
    >>>
    >>> However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    >>> next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >>>
    >>> I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    >>> programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    >>> This is again bizarre.
    >>>
    >>> The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    >>> or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    >>> discache
    >>> MpFilter
    >>> SaibVdAd64
    >>> spldr
    >>> vpcvmm
    >>> Wanarpv6"
    >>>
    >>> However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >>>
    >>> After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    >>> occasionally boot.
    >>>
    >>> Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    >>> drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >>>
    >>> I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >>>
    >>> Regards
    >>> Doug

    >>

    > I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats left of
    > my hair.
    > The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank, and stop
    > there.
    > Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).
    >
    > I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
    > another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
    > Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
    > of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
    > Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!
    >
    >


    What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
    such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
    around for any problem.

    Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.
     
    Rob, Mar 25, 2010
    #7
  8. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 25/03/2010 6:02 PM, Andy wrote:
    > Rob wrote:
    >
    >> On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:

    >
    >>> I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
    >>> another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
    >>> Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on the back
    >>> of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially disslodged.
    >>> Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!

    >
    >> What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
    >> such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
    >> around for any problem.
    >>
    >> Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.

    >
    > A 'repair install' of the OS would've plugged in the dislodged monitor
    > cable?
    >
    > Now I've heard fucking _everything_
    >


    I have not mentioned the monitor in my reply, should I have snipped the
    irrelevant parts then.

    I was comparing operating systems

    Not referring to a hardware problem but the fact in the first line "I
    reloaded Window$," the OP did reload the XP OS in a search to eliminate
    the problem this is possible with XP. This is not the case with a
    repair of W7.

    And what's more I still can't understand why the monitor cable being
    dislodged would have created a situation for the OS to be reinstalled.

    Does that make it any clearer???????????????? or what?????????????
     
    Rob, Mar 25, 2010
    #8
  9. The Old Bloke

    atec 77 Guest

    Rob wrote:
    > On 25/03/2010 1:47 PM, Farticus wrote:
    >> "Acacia"<> wrote in message
    >> news:fonqn.109202$1.easynews.com...
    >>> Looks similar to the problem detailed by Prevx.
    >>> http://www.prevx.com/blog/140/Black-Screen-woes-could-affect-millions-on-Windows--Vista-and-XP.html
    >>>
    >>> You could try their shell fix.exe. Won't do any harm.
    >>> http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?GRAB=blackscreenfix
    >>>
    >>> "The Old Bloke"<> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> I am running Win 7 64bit Ultimate
    >>>>
    >>>> Starting 2 days ago my PC won't boot properly. It reads the BIOS,
    >>>> then I get the colourful windows loading logo, and then when I would
    >>>> get the logon screen, I just get a black screen, with my (wireless)
    >>>> mouse pointer, but no (wireless) keyboard access. All I can do is to
    >>>> power down.
    >>>>
    >>>> Booting into safe mode is fine. If I then run System restore, and
    >>>> after a long time I get the message that SR has failed because of my
    >>>> antivirus, which isn't loaded in safe mode.The message also says that
    >>>> no files were changed by SR.
    >>>>
    >>>> However after every failed SR the PC boots normally, but at the very
    >>>> next reboot it fails again! Bizarre.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have also found that if I go into safe boot, and uninstall *any*
    >>>> programme, the PC will boot normally, but subsequent reboots fail.
    >>>> This is again bizarre.
    >>>>
    >>>> The event log shows numerous errors, such as "The following boot-start
    >>>> or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
    >>>> discache
    >>>> MpFilter
    >>>> SaibVdAd64
    >>>> spldr
    >>>> vpcvmm
    >>>> Wanarpv6"
    >>>>
    >>>> However on each failure the errors vary a lot.
    >>>>
    >>>> After a failure to boot, several reboot tries later the PC *may*
    >>>> occasionally boot.
    >>>>
    >>>> Before the problem developed I had not installed any new devices,
    >>>> drivers or apps, but maybe some auto updates could have happened.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have extensively checked for viruses, malware, etc.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regards
    >>>> Doug
    >>>

    >> I had similar/same problem a few weeks ago. Got me pulling out whats
    >> left of
    >> my hair.
    >> The damn thing would boot up to the "Welcome" screen then go blank,
    >> and stop
    >> there.
    >> Worked OK in safe mode. (Window$ XP).
    >>
    >> I reloaded Window$, I downloaded anti this that and whatever else via
    >> another machine and tried you name it - still nothing!
    >> Eventually by shear chance, I found the fault - the monitor plug on
    >> the back
    >> of the PC was not engaged fully. It had somehow become partially
    >> disslodged.
    >> Inserting it properly cured the problem - two days of frustration!!
    >>
    >>

    >
    > What you did was easy with XP as it allows for a repair install. No
    > such thing with W7 or Vista for that matter. W7 has a complicated work
    > around for any problem.
    >
    > Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.
    >

    Making a small alteration found on google allows upgrades and hence
    repairs in win7 making it's maintenance very xp in many respects
     
    atec 77, Mar 25, 2010
    #9
  10. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 25/03/2010 8:30 PM, atec 77 wrote:

    >>
    >> Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.
    >>

    > Making a small alteration found on google allows upgrades and hence
    > repairs in win7 making it's maintenance very xp in many respects




    Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    secret Google site?
     
    Rob, Mar 25, 2010
    #10
  11. The Old Bloke

    terryc Guest

    On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:

    > Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    > secret Google site?


    MB?, motherboard?
    Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
    require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?
     
    terryc, Mar 26, 2010
    #11
  12. The Old Bloke

    Rod Speed Guest

    terryc wrote
    > Rob wrote


    >> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed.
    >> Is this included in the secret Google site?


    > MB?, motherboard?


    > Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and
    > thus require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?


    It never did.
     
    Rod Speed, Mar 26, 2010
    #12
  13. The Old Bloke

    terryc Guest

    On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:21:07 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

    > terryc wrote
    >> Rob wrote

    >
    >>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    >>> secret Google site?

    >
    >> MB?, motherboard?

    >
    >> Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
    >> require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?

    >
    > It never did.


    Of course ROD you would get it wrong. It says so very clearly on the
    Mickeysoft website that if you change the motherboard, you have to buy a
    new licence.

    Interestingly, their social.mickysoft site says this doesn't affect Full
    Retail, but does affect OEM(7 & XP).

    While we are on the subject, does anyone know how to work out, from the
    product key, what the installation media is?
     
    terryc, Mar 26, 2010
    #13
  14. The Old Bloke

    terryc Guest

    On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:19:10 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:

    > terryc wrote:
    >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:
    >>
    >>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in
    >>> the secret Google site?

    >>
    >> MB?, motherboard?
    >> Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
    >> require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?
    >>

    > There are hacks although a retail w7 wont need more than re rego or a
    > hack
    >
    > google is a mate


    lol, that is what I just found out. Full marks on your googling skills.

    A very dusty "we are cleaning out junk" gift arrived with a dodgy hard
    disk boot. Eventually found out ram was dicky and replaced it as well,
    then back to the hard disk. OEM Prod Key on case and eventually found
    install media (needed SP1) that would accept the prod key, but MS says
    nope, already installed. Bummer. Linux beckons.
     
    terryc, Mar 26, 2010
    #14
  15. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 26/03/2010 12:42 PM, terryc wrote:
    > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:
    >
    >> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    >> secret Google site?

    >
    > MB?, motherboard?
    > Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
    > require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?
    >


    I could not get to the desktop after the motherboard was replaced. It
    gave all sorts of repair types which took you back to the last known
    restore point and that's it.

    The MB went from a P45 Chipset to a P41 chipset and W7 didn't like it
    without a re install of the OS.

    Used the same install disk which was W7 x64 OEM version but it would
    not auto activate had to phone home with the numbers.
     
    Rob, Mar 26, 2010
    #15
  16. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 26/03/2010 1:19 PM, atec7 7 > wrote:
    > terryc wrote:
    >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:
    >>
    >>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    >>> secret Google site?

    >>
    >> MB?, motherboard? Does changing your motherboard still count as a new
    >> computer and thus require you to purchase another copy of your windows
    >> OS?
    >>

    > There are hacks although a retail w7 wont need more than re rego or a hack
    >
    > google is a mate


    Didn't need a hack - genuine W7. you still can't do a repair install
    same with Vista.
     
    Rob, Mar 26, 2010
    #16
  17. The Old Bloke

    Rob Guest

    On 26/03/2010 2:44 PM, terryc wrote:
    > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:21:07 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
    >
    >> terryc wrote
    >>> Rob wrote

    >>
    >>>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    >>>> secret Google site?

    >>
    >>> MB?, motherboard?

    >>
    >>> Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and thus
    >>> require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?

    >>
    >> It never did.

    >
    > Of course ROD you would get it wrong. It says so very clearly on the
    > Mickeysoft website that if you change the motherboard, you have to buy a
    > new licence.
    >
    > Interestingly, their social.mickysoft site says this doesn't affect Full
    > Retail, but does affect OEM(7& XP).
    >
    > While we are on the subject, does anyone know how to work out, from the
    > product key, what the installation media is?
    >



    I this case I didn't have to buy a new licence just phoned home to
    activate. Thats an OEM x64 Ultimate version

    Be tough just because the MB went US you had the buy a new licence.

    Changing MB's on XP OS was not so critical most of the time it still
    booted to the desktop and updated the files through updates.
     
    Rob, Mar 26, 2010
    #17
  18. The Old Bloke

    Rod Speed Guest

    terryc wrote:
    > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:19:10 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:
    >
    >> terryc wrote:
    >>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:29:29 +1100, Rob wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in
    >>>> the secret Google site?
    >>>
    >>> MB?, motherboard?
    >>> Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and
    >>> thus require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?
    >>>

    >> There are hacks although a retail w7 wont need more than re rego or a
    >> hack
    >>
    >> google is a mate

    >
    > lol, that is what I just found out. Full marks on your googling
    > skills.
    >
    > A very dusty "we are cleaning out junk" gift arrived with a dodgy hard
    > disk boot. Eventually found out ram was dicky and replaced it as well,
    > then back to the hard disk. OEM Prod Key on case and eventually found
    > install media (needed SP1) that would accept the prod key, but MS says
    > nope, already installed. Bummer. Linux beckons.


    Just use another key, stupid.
     
    Rod Speed, Mar 26, 2010
    #18
  19. The Old Bloke

    Rod Speed Guest

    terryc wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> terryc wrote
    >>> Rob wrote


    >>>> Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the secret Google site?


    >>> MB?, motherboard?


    >>> Does changing your motherboard still count as a new computer and
    >>> thus require you to purchase another copy of your windows OS?


    >> It never did.


    > Of course ROD you would get it wrong. It says so very
    > clearly on the Mickeysoft website that if you change the
    > motherboard, you have to buy a new licence.


    That has absolutely no relevant what so ever to australian law, fuckwit.

    And Microsoft knows that too.

    > Interestingly, their social.mickysoft site says this doesn't affect Full Retail,


    So much for your original lie.

    > but does affect OEM(7 & XP).


    Like hell it does under australian law.

    > While we are on the subject, does anyone know how to work
    > out, from the product key, what the installation media is?


    That isnt part of the product key.
     
    Rod Speed, Mar 26, 2010
    #19
  20. On 26/03/2010 8:29 AM, Rob wrote:
    > On 25/03/2010 8:30 PM, atec 77 wrote:
    >
    >>>
    >>> Even though I do like using W7 its not open like XP.
    >>>

    >> Making a small alteration found on google allows upgrades and hence
    >> repairs in win7 making it's maintenance very xp in many respects

    >
    >
    >
    > Not in my case where the MB had to be changed. Is this included in the
    > secret Google site?


    Did one here yesterday. W7 Spat the dummy on the first boot attempt,
    checked the settings in the BIOS and discovered the SATA controller was
    not set as IDE mode. Changed, rebooted and w7 booted fine. Installed the
    new MB drivers and everything is happy.
     
    XR8 Sprintless, Mar 26, 2010
    #20
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