7.85" iPad later in 2012

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  1. Alan Browne

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    Alan Browne, Mar 1, 2012
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  3. Alan Browne

    Fred Moore Guest

    In article <>,
    (D Finnigan) wrote:

    > Alan Browne wrote:
    > > http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120229PD220.html
    > >
    > > (For comparison, the iPad and iPad 2 are 9.7".)

    >
    > Well, that makes sense.


    Not to Dilbert, the engineers' engineer:
    <http://www.dilbert.com/2012-02-23/>
     
    Fred Moore, Mar 1, 2012
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  4. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    On 2012-03-01 17:10 , Fred Moore wrote:
    > In article<>,
    > (D Finnigan) wrote:
    >
    >> Alan Browne wrote:
    >>> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120229PD220.html
    >>>
    >>> (For comparison, the iPad and iPad 2 are 9.7".)

    >>
    >> Well, that makes sense.

    >
    > Not to Dilbert, the engineers' engineer:
    > <http://www.dilbert.com/2012-02-23/>


    It's called the RIM Playbook. They have over a million unsold in
    inventory despite a cut in price to cost (or less).

    --
    "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
    I said I didn't know."
    -Samuel Clemens.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 1, 2012
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  5. In article <>,
    Alan Browne <> wrote:

    > http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120229PD220.html
    >
    > (For comparison, the iPad and iPad 2 are 9.7".)


    Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's not
    there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.

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    People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
     
    Michelle Steiner, Mar 1, 2012
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  6. Alan Browne

    nospam Guest

    In article <-september.org>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    > announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's not
    > there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.


    he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    is stupid.
     
    nospam, Mar 1, 2012
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  7. Alan Browne

    zulu Guest

    "nospam" <> wrote in message
    news:010320121516254587%...
    > In article <-september.org>,
    > Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >
    >> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    >> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    >> not
    >> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.

    >
    > he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    > is stupid.
    >


    ......so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?
     
    zulu, Mar 2, 2012
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  8. Alan Browne

    Erilar Guest

    "zulu" <> wrote:
    > "nospam" <> wrote in message
    > news:010320121516254587%...
    >> In article <-september.org>,
    >> Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    >>> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    >>> not
    >>> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.

    >>
    >> he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    >> is stupid.
    >>

    >
    > .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?

    Weight?

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    Erilar, Mar 2, 2012
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  9. Alan Browne

    Erilar Guest

    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Alan Browne <> wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120229PD220.html
    >>
    >> (For comparison, the iPad and iPad 2 are 9.7".)

    >
    > Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    > announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's not
    > there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.


    I really like my screen size. If people like being cramped, they can stick
    to iPhones.

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    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Mar 2, 2012
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  10. Alan Browne

    zulu Guest

    "Erilar" <> wrote in message
    news:jiqmrm$ht0$...
    > "zulu" <> wrote:
    >> "nospam" <> wrote in message
    >> news:010320121516254587%...
    >>> In article <-september.org>,
    >>> Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    >>>> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    >>>> not
    >>>> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.
    >>>
    >>> he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    >>> is stupid.
    >>>

    >>
    >> .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?

    > Weight?


    About 180 lbs.
    You?
     
    zulu, Mar 2, 2012
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  11. In article <df64r.135078$2>, "zulu"
    <> wrote:

    > "Erilar" <> wrote in message
    > news:jiqmrm$ht0$...
    > > "zulu" <> wrote:
    > >> "nospam" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:010320121516254587%...
    > >>> In article <-september.org>,
    > >>> Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    > >>>> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    > >>>> not
    > >>>> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.
    > >>>
    > >>> he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    > >>> is stupid.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?

    > >
    > > Weight?

    >
    > About 180 lbs.
    > You?


    I think he Erilar meant "wait", as in one will be released at some stage. ;o)

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 2, 2012
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  12. In article <jP04r.90863$2>, "zulu"
    <> wrote:
    > "nospam" <> wrote in message
    > news:010320121516254587%...
    > > In article <-september.org>,
    > > Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    > >> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    > >> not there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.

    > >
    > > he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    > > is stupid.

    >
    > .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?


    Micorosft do already have a BIG "tablet" ... it's called Surface and was
    released a few years ago, but is massively expensive, as well as "a bit"
    difficult to fit in your pocket or bag.


    As for the 7.5" iPad, it's unlikely. That rumour has been around since
    before the iPad was even released. It's just some lazy "journalists" who
    keep posting it in the hopes that one day they will be right and have a
    "scoop".

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 2, 2012
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  13. In article
    <>,
    (Helpful Harry) wrote:

    > In article <df64r.135078$2>, "zulu"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > > "Erilar" <> wrote in message
    > > news:jiqmrm$ht0$...
    > > > "zulu" <> wrote:
    > > >> "nospam" <> wrote in message
    > > >> news:010320121516254587%...
    > > >>> In article <-september.org>,
    > > >>> Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > > >>>
    > > >>>> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    > > >>>> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    > > >>>> not
    > > >>>> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.
    > > >>>
    > > >>> he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    > > >>> is stupid.
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >> .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?
    > > >
    > > > Weight?

    > >
    > > About 180 lbs.
    > > You?

    >
    > I think he Erilar meant "wait", as in one will be released at some stage. ;o)


    Reportedly it is being considered. It has the code name Godot.
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    Thomas R. Kettler, Mar 2, 2012
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  14. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    On 2012-03-01 23:50 , Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 01 Mar 2012 17:18:23 -0500 Alan Browne wrote:
    >> On 2012-03-01 17:10 , Fred Moore wrote:
    >>> In article<>,
    >>> (D Finnigan) wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Alan Browne wrote:
    >>>>> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120229PD220.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> (For comparison, the iPad and iPad 2 are 9.7".)
    >>>>
    >>>> Well, that makes sense.
    >>>
    >>> Not to Dilbert, the engineers' engineer:
    >>> <http://www.dilbert.com/2012-02-23/>

    >>
    >> It's called the RIM Playbook. They have over a million unsold in
    >> inventory despite a cut in price to cost (or less).

    >
    > Actually, Dilbert was refering to the recently released Samsung Note. A
    > gargantuan phone (or mini-tablet, take your pick) with a 5.3" screen.


    That's a lesser niche! Though if it's from Samsung it will undoubtedly
    outsell Playbook many fold.

    > While the Blackberry Playbook has been a dud, it's not because of the 7"
    > screen. The Kindle Fire, unquestionably successful, uses virtually
    > identical hardware.
    >
    > The Playbook might have a renaissance, however. It just received a new
    > software update that allows it to run Android apps. At the Fire's $200
    > price point with better specs (the Playbook has 16GB storage rather than
    > the Fire's 8, and has bluetooth, cameras, and an SD card slot Amazon
    > chose not to include with the Fire.)


    The problem there is that the Playbook is competing against iPad whether
    it wants to or not; the Fire is not a direct competitor for those who
    want the sparse, reading oriented device.

    Playbook was a weak prospect to start with Releasing it without mail
    from the company that raised the bar for mobile mail was plain lunacy.

    I went to a store to try the Playbook - it was deadlocked in some
    application and wouldn't come out. The clerk's there couldn't get it
    going. People wandered over to the iPads ...


    --
    "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
    I said I didn't know."
    -Samuel Clemens.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 2, 2012
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  15. On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:11:25 +1300,
    (Helpful Harry) wrote:

    >As for the 7.5" iPad, it's unlikely. That rumour has been around since
    >before the iPad was even released. It's just some lazy "journalists" who
    >keep posting it in the hopes that one day they will be right and have a
    >"scoop".


    I wonder if Apple gives out false clues so that:

    1. We don't know which evidence is real.
    2. It can evaluate our responses.

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    than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
    to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

    - James Madison
     
    Howard Brazee, Mar 2, 2012
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  16. In article <>, Howard Brazee
    <> wrote:
    > On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:11:25 +1300,
    > (Helpful Harry) wrote:
    > >
    > >As for the 7.5" iPad, it's unlikely. That rumour has been around since
    > >before the iPad was even released. It's just some lazy "journalists" who
    > >keep posting it in the hopes that one day they will be right and have a
    > >"scoop".

    >
    > I wonder if Apple gives out false clues so that:
    >
    > 1. We don't know which evidence is real.
    > 2. It can evaluate our responses.


    I don't know about "false clues". Apple certainly would have produced
    prototypes in a few different sizes before deciding on the current size,
    and probably still test various designs. Some reporters, especially in the
    early days, probably saw or were told about those experimental sizes and
    jumped to the wrong conclusion. The same no doubt accounts for the "iPhone
    Nano" rumours too.

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 2, 2012
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  17. Alan Browne

    nospam Guest

    In article <jiroev$ul5$>, Todd Allcock
    <> wrote:

    > Yep. OTOH, RIM might have been (stupidly) trying to leverage their
    > ecosystem. The Playbook had a mail app, but it only sourced mail from a
    > connected Blackberry phone. If you had no Blackberry, your Playbook had
    > no mail.
    >
    > Stupid? Perhaps,


    no perhaps about it. it was incredibly stupid, but they didn't have a
    whole lot of choice. blackberry isn't designed for one user to have two
    (or more) devices on the same email account. it *had* to leech off an
    existing blackberry phone.

    > but if you have no iTunes, your iOS device has no music...


    assuming you mean itunes on the computer, even without that, an ios
    device can still have music. you can download music directly on the
    device, or you can use any of a number of apps that can play music
    and/or videos.

    > Attempting to leverage an ecosystem is nothing new.


    true, but in this case it cost them a lot of sales.

    > > I went to a store to try the Playbook - it was deadlocked in some
    > > application and wouldn't come out. The clerk's there couldn't get it
    > > going. People wandered over to the iPads ...

    >
    > Not necessarily the Playbook's fault. Arny device can crash, and if the
    > store employees didn't know how to restart it, that's on them, not RIM!


    true, but how hard is it to turn it off and back on? nobody bothered
    because nobody cared. if it was an ipad, someone would have found out
    how because there would have been customers wanting to try it out.

    > Similarly, I tried to play with a Fire at three stores before I finally
    > found one that didn't have a dead battery.


    dead battery means it got some use. that's a bit different than broken.
     
    nospam, Mar 3, 2012
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  18. Alan Browne

    Erilar Guest

    Helpful Harry <> wrote:
    > In article <df64r.135078$2>, "zulu"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> "Erilar" <> wrote in message
    >> news:jiqmrm$ht0$...
    >>> "zulu" <> wrote:
    >>>> "nospam" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:010320121516254587%...
    >>>>> In article <-september.org>,
    >>>>> Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Pundits have been predicting a 7.5" iPad ever since the iPad was first
    >>>>>> announced. Steve Jobs said that that it won't happen. Of course, he's
    >>>>>> not
    >>>>>> there any more, but his ideas still carry a lot of weight at Apple.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> he also said nobody reads anymore and watching videos on a tiny screen
    >>>>> is stupid.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?
    >>>
    >>> Weight?

    >>
    >> About 180 lbs.
    >> You?

    >
    > I think he Erilar meant "wait", as in one will be released at some stage. ;o)
    >
    > Helpful Harry :eek:)


    Very helpful. My laptop is 15" and HEAVY. Even without its keyboard it
    would be heavy. The thought of lugging around an 18" tablet is daunting
    indeed!
    --
    Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
     
    Erilar, Mar 3, 2012
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  19. In article <jit7ck$2ha$>, Erilar
    <> wrote:
    > Helpful Harry <> wrote:
    > > In article <df64r.135078$2>, "zulu"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >> "Erilar" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:jiqmrm$ht0$...
    > >>> "zulu" <> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> .....so why has nobody come up with a BIG (18"?) tablet?
    > >>>
    > >>> Weight?
    > >>
    > >> About 180 lbs.
    > >> You?

    > >
    > > I think he Erilar meant "wait", as in one will be released at some
    > > stage. ;o)

    >
    > Very helpful. My laptop is 15" and HEAVY. Even without its keyboard it
    > would be heavy. The thought of lugging around an 18" tablet is daunting
    > indeed!


    I was actually joking ... but at some future point it may well be possible
    to have an 18" tablet that is lighter and easier to carry than the current
    iPad. Some companies have been working on such techologies as paper-thin
    and / or roll-up displays.

    Helpful Harry :eek:)
     
    Helpful Harry, Mar 3, 2012
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