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Talal Itani
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      Aug 20th, 07, 5:15 PM
Hello,

Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
customer returned it to the store? Thanks.

T.I.


 
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      Aug 20th, 07, 5:25 PM
"Yes Baby" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Talal Itani" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Hello,
>>
>> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what
>> does refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it
>> mean a customer returned it to the store? Thanks.
>>
>> T.I.
>>

>
> Refurbished.........returned to as new condition. Sometimes with the full
> 12 months warranty sometimes less. Could be customer return via store or
> direct either way it will get the same overhaul.
>
>
>


In some cases - it "might" still be a good idea - in many - I doubt it - due
to cost of labor and parts - as oppsed to buying "new". Years ago - it made
"more" sense.

Just my 2 cents!


 
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      Aug 20th, 07, 5:59 PM
"Talal Itani" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news6jyi.5967$A57.1421@trnddc04...
> Hello,
>
> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.


It means whatever the seller says it means, and it doesn't
have to mean much of anything. Ask the seller to put his
definition of 'refurbished' in writing.

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      Aug 22nd, 07, 12:33 AM
Talal Itani wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.
>
> T.I.
>
>



Refurbished means that its guaranteed until electrical current is applied.

 
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      Aug 22nd, 07, 2:27 AM
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:15:38 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:15:31 GMT, "Talal Itani" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>>Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
>>refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
>>customer returned it to the store? Thanks.

>
> At Fry's, it means that one or more people bought it and returned it,
> and they resealed the box, hoping that eventually somebody will buy it
> and fly off to Singapore, where it will be impossible for them to
> return it yet again.


Actually, I had a very pleasant experience at Fry's, when one of the
motherboards I'd bought there didn't work. I went in and asked, "What
do I do"? and they sent some tech over, who let me tag along to her bench
(which was right out there where everybody can see, along with about 4
others) and she showed me what was wrong and how to fix it.

Turned out I had to buy a new power supply. I'm using that MB and PS
right now, as a matter of fact. ;-)

FWIW, it's this one:
http://shop3.outpost.com/isp/cityofindustry.html

Cheers!
Rich

 
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      Aug 22nd, 07, 1:15 PM
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:15:31 +0000, Talal Itani wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.
>
> T.I.


It means 'Junk that didn't work properly the first time around' and hasn't
improved with age.





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      Aug 22nd, 07, 8:28 PM
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:15:31 +0000, Talal Itani wrote:
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> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.


To me, it means, "Inspected and repaired as necessary, such that it meets
the same performance specs as a new item." I think the warranty part is
optional.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 
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      Aug 22nd, 07, 11:53 PM
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Rich Grise <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:15:31 +0000, Talal Itani wrote:
>>
>> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
>> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
>> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.

>
>To me, it means, "Inspected and repaired as necessary, such that it meets
>the same performance specs as a new item." I think the warranty part is
>optional.
>

Almost always the guaranty on a refurbished part is the same as on the
original.

MY problem with most refurbished stuff is:
They ARE inspected, repaired-as-necessary, tested the same as a new
drive, and reboxed.

What's wrong with that?
Well: The "tested the same as new" part, believe it or not.
The problem is: That same part or device *passed* that same test before
leaving the factory the first time!
It's actually only when the device is actually found *faulty* and then
*repaired* that I find it passing the original factory tests to be
sufficient.

Thus I'm usually not shy about buying a *mechanical* refurbished part
(like say a mixer or washing-machine, unless "all electronic") but a
computer or disk-drive would make me a bit nervous. It's all too easy
for such a thing to *pass* all the "normal" factory tests; yet still
*fail* on the very thing that got it returned.

If the company involved actually *read* the complaint and ran *specific*
tests *for* that complaint, then I wouldn't feel so bad. However, these
days, more and more, the "refurbishing" department has just become
another stop in the regular assembly-line. They put the returned device
in the queue (with perhaps a label specifying return) and if it passes
normal testing, then out it goes ... in a gray box, instead of the
colorful new one, of course. "We didn't find anything wrong. It passed
all our tests."

That can be a bit nasty after the same device or a whole series of them
goes through the same loop for the fourth or fifth time; never EVER
getting caught by the standard factory testing.

Supposedly, in ISO standards, there's going to be a procedure that
catches such things ... maybe on the third go-around, when the same
serial-number catches a flag.

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      Aug 23rd, 07, 2:12 AM
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:53:26 -0500, Frank McCoy wrote:
> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Rich Grise <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:15:31 +0000, Talal Itani wrote:
>>>
>>> Some stores, including Fry's, sell Refurbished items. In general, what does
>>> refurbished mean? Does it mean that the item was repaired? Does it mean a
>>> customer returned it to the store? Thanks.

>>
>>To me, it means, "Inspected and repaired as necessary, such that it meets
>>the same performance specs as a new item." I think the warranty part is
>>optional.
>>

> Almost always the guaranty on a refurbished part is the same as on the
> original.
>
> MY problem with most refurbished stuff is:
> They ARE inspected, repaired-as-necessary, tested the same as a new
> drive, and reboxed.
>
> What's wrong with that?
> Well: The "tested the same as new" part, believe it or not.
> The problem is: That same part or device *passed* that same test before
> leaving the factory the first time!
> It's actually only when the device is actually found *faulty* and then
> *repaired* that I find it passing the original factory tests to be
> sufficient.


Not every factory 100% tests everything. If it's new in the box and the
customer just didn't want it, then it's just "been bought and brought
back, but still working". If it's broken, they'll repair or replace it,
and if they replace it, it might be worth their time to fix the return,
and call it "refurb."

But this is getting pretty deep what was the issue in the first place?

Thanks,
Rich

 
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      Aug 23rd, 07, 3:19 AM
"Rich Grise" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:53:26 -0500, Frank McCoy wrote:
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> But this is getting pretty deep what was the issue in the first place?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>


If I'm not mistaken, someone wanted to know what Refurbished meant - hence
the subject line.

My parents bought an item which was labeled "refurbished". Looking at it -
it "appeared" brand new, worked as well as it should have - and lasted
probably as long as it should have - given normal wear and tear. So - as to
the "condition" of a Refurb unit, it is anyone's guess as to exactly what it
means or if reconditioned, how much went into doing so. The best phrase to
encapsulate this whole subject - is - "CAVEAT EMPTOR".

L.


 
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