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Old May 16th, 07, 12:28 AM
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The Linux Installation Package

Would anyone happen to know how this is coming along or whether progress on it has continued? I heard about it months ago, an attempt by a group of developers to sort of make a standard system, based on the kernel, allowing the user to customize the OS to their needs, rather than have to search for a distro that may not give them all they want. It was supposed to be connected a major server, and offer updates on demand, to the kernel, and other software packages alike. The team was planning to develop their own Run Level 4 interface, but still provided the user the opportunity to use other desktop environements out there. It was an attempt to standardize Linux, and have a serious market competitor to Windows. I haven't heard anything about it, but if they stopped working on it, I hope someone eventually picks up where they left off. It would be great to finally have a foolproof super userfriendly and standard Linux system, that gives users more choice than Microsoft's "Win, aka Crap, dos". Software developers might eventually pick up on it, and, eventhough I know that there is a wide range of available software and alternatives for Linux, there is still something missing, I just do not know what...



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I haven't heard much about it. Unfortunately due to the almost infinite custimizations you can make to Linux, this project is probably doomed to failure. Ubuntu sort of offers the functionality you require, in that when Ubuntu is first installed it has a very minimal set of software installed which you can then add/subtract by using their update manager.



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Actually, most major distros offer that funtion now. Ubuntu, SUSE and (i think) Red Hat all use an updater system for the OS and quite a few external programs.

But you have to have the most current version of the OS for them to update the programming.

ex. YAST (SUSE's updater system) is only updated for SUSE 10.2. If you run 10.0 or 10.1 then YAST will not have the most current information.



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10.1 and 10.0 are both fully supported still due to them being enterprise level releases. We have 3 servers running 10.1/10.0 and they are still being updated.
Hopefully I can move them to FreeBSD soon so I don't have to worry about auto-updates killing CUPS



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I think the general idea of the project was to promote a standard for the Linux Community, but careful consideration makes you realize in the end, there is already a standard becuase all distros end up using common core components. I am a personal fan of slackware linux for its relative ease of use and great performance and funtionality. There is also a distro that branches from it, Vector Linux which is great in that respect. By far the most universal Linux in my opinion would be UBuntu. But ofcourse that opinion differs from person to person.

The project would be a great thing if it were continued, and I personally would dedicate sometime to such a project (If I had it ).

Either way, current versions of Linux are awesome any way. I installed Windows XP on a machine, three different version three times, and each time it would crash.

I got an equivalent version of Ubuntu, with more functionality, and a **** of alot more stability. Go Linux! ONe day they will bring Microsoft Down!



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let me rephrase: But when you use the open versions you have to have the most current version of the OS for them to update the programming.

ex. YAST (SUSE's updater system) is only updated for openSUSE 10.2. If you run 10.0 or 10.1 then YAST will not have the most current information.


The enterprise version of Linux is always a different beast, because purchasing the licence bounds the company to support the product. The free or "open" versions does not have that.



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