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Howard Brazee
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      Feb 9th, 12, 2:45 AM
My iPhone (smallest iPhone 4) is much smaller than my iPad (which was
the largest non-3G iPad 1). iTunes currently shows it to have a
capacity of 1.66GB, including 0.94 GB Other, and 0.35 GB Free.
Periodically (right now) when I plug my phone into the charger I get
"Storage Almost Full. You can manage your storage in Settings".

I go and adjust down the size of the iTunes smart list that
synchronizes with my phone, as I haven't found anything in Settings to
change. Manage Storage seems to be about iCloud, although I'm not
sure about my 156.3 MB in Mail. Storage shows 6.1 GB used. 3.3 GB
is Apps.

Any advice on how to manage my storage intelligently?
 
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      Feb 9th, 12, 3:43 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Howard Brazee
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> My iPhone (smallest iPhone 4) is much smaller than my iPad (which was
> the largest non-3G iPad 1). iTunes currently shows it to have a
> capacity of 1.66GB, including 0.94 GB Other, and 0.35 GB Free.
> Periodically (right now) when I plug my phone into the charger I get
> "Storage Almost Full. You can manage your storage in Settings".
>
> I go and adjust down the size of the iTunes smart list that
> synchronizes with my phone, as I haven't found anything in Settings to
> change. Manage Storage seems to be about iCloud, although I'm not
> sure about my 156.3 MB in Mail. Storage shows 6.1 GB used. 3.3 GB
> is Apps.
>
> Any advice on how to manage my storage intelligently?


itunes will show you how much each category uses. most apps are tiny
but a few are large. videos are large. decide what you don't need and
start deleting it.
 
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      Feb 9th, 12, 9:10 AM
Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> My iPhone (smallest iPhone 4) is much smaller than my iPad (which was
> the largest non-3G iPad 1).


It would help if you gave actual numbers: the capacity is written on the
back of the iPhone and iPad. There have been two "smallest" iPhone 4
models depending on when you bought it: originally 16 GB, then 8 GB
after the iPhone 4S was released.

3G and non-3G iPads are available in the same range of capacities. All
iPads so far have been 16 GB, 32 GB or 64 GB.

> iTunes currently shows it to have a capacity of 1.66GB, including 0.94 GB
> Other, and 0.35 GB Free.


Was that "1.66GB" figure a typo? The "capacity" figure should be between
6 and 7 GB for an 8 GB iPhone, about 13 to 14 GB for a 16 GB iPhone.

What does the iPhone report in Settings > General > About > Capacity?

> Periodically (right now) when I plug my phone into the charger I get
> "Storage Almost Full. You can manage your storage in Settings".


That's referring to Settings > General > Usage, which in iOS 5 gives a
list of all apps on the device and how much storage they are using.

You can't change anything in Settings on the device to adjust how much
storage is used, just find out where it is being used (and you could
delete some apps or some data within those apps to free up space, then
go back to Settings to see how much difference it made).

> I go and adjust down the size of the iTunes smart list that
> synchronizes with my phone, as I haven't found anything in Settings to
> change. Manage Storage seems to be about iCloud, although I'm not
> sure about my 156.3 MB in Mail.


You can pay for extra storage on iCloud, so the iPhone presumably has an
interface to access that. iCloud storage has nothing to do with the
amount of storage used on the iPhone, and nothing to do with this
warning message.

> Storage shows 6.1 GB used. 3.3 GB is Apps.


Where are you seeing those figures? The iPhone shows Available and Used
figures under a Storage heading at the top of Settings > General >
Usage. iTunes doesn't show anything called "Storage", but does report
the total space used by Apps.

The coloured graph shown by iTunes on the Summary tab is the easiest way
to get a quick overview by category. Settings > General > Usage on the
iPhone is the best way to break down usage by individual apps.

Assuming your numbers are right apart from "Capacity", then you should
have about 6.45 GB capcity, of which 3.3 GB is used by Apps, 0.94 GB
Other and 0.35 GB free. That leaves 1.86 GB presumably in different
forms of media (probably Audio).

(Is the 1.66 GB figure earlier actually the Audio total reported by
iTunes, not the Capacity?)

More than half your iPhone's actual capacity is being used by apps, so
you should probably concentrate on them as the best place to free up
some storage.

> Any advice on how to manage my storage intelligently?


Look at the list of apps on the iPhone in Settings > General > Usage,
which are sorted in size order, and decide which apps you can either
delete entirely, or delete some content within, in order to free up
space.

Or reduce how much media you have on the iPhone. iTunes Match might
help, since you can selectively access tracks from the cloud rather than
storing everything on the iPhone, and have access to your entire iTunes
library, at the cost of having to use WiFi or 3G data to play the music,
and the annual fee for iTunes Match.

Or get a bigger iPhone.

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      Feb 9th, 12, 5:01 PM
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:10:56 +1300, (E-Mail Removed) (David
Empson) wrote:

>Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> My iPhone (smallest iPhone 4) is much smaller than my iPad (which was
>> the largest non-3G iPad 1).

>
>It would help if you gave actual numbers: the capacity is written on the
>back of the iPhone and iPad. There have been two "smallest" iPhone 4
>models depending on when you bought it: originally 16 GB, then 8 GB
>after the iPhone 4S was released.


I don't see it on the back. I bought the $100 iPhone this January
from Verizon.

>3G and non-3G iPads are available in the same range of capacities. All
>iPads so far have been 16 GB, 32 GB or 64 GB.
>
>> iTunes currently shows it to have a capacity of 1.66GB, including 0.94 GB
>> Other, and 0.35 GB Free.

>
>Was that "1.66GB" figure a typo? The "capacity" figure should be between
>6 and 7 GB for an 8 GB iPhone, about 13 to 14 GB for a 16 GB iPhone.


Probably. Although I have seen iTunes with weird sizes shown that go
away next time. Right now it says 6.38GB. The iPad settings show
capacity 6.4 GB.

>What does the iPhone report in Settings > General > About > Capacity?
>
>> Periodically (right now) when I plug my phone into the charger I get
>> "Storage Almost Full. You can manage your storage in Settings".

>
>That's referring to Settings > General > Usage, which in iOS 5 gives a
>list of all apps on the device and how much storage they are using.
>
>You can't change anything in Settings on the device to adjust how much
>storage is used, just find out where it is being used (and you could
>delete some apps or some data within those apps to free up space, then
>go back to Settings to see how much difference it made).
>
>> I go and adjust down the size of the iTunes smart list that
>> synchronizes with my phone, as I haven't found anything in Settings to
>> change. Manage Storage seems to be about iCloud, although I'm not
>> sure about my 156.3 MB in Mail.

>
>You can pay for extra storage on iCloud, so the iPhone presumably has an
>interface to access that. iCloud storage has nothing to do with the
>amount of storage used on the iPhone, and nothing to do with this
>warning message.
>
>> Storage shows 6.1 GB used. 3.3 GB is Apps.

>
>Where are you seeing those figures? The iPhone shows Available and Used
>figures under a Storage heading at the top of Settings > General >
>Usage. iTunes doesn't show anything called "Storage", but does report
>the total space used by Apps.


I was looking at iTunes, in the bottom of the display next to the sync
button.

>The coloured graph shown by iTunes on the Summary tab is the easiest way
>to get a quick overview by category. Settings > General > Usage on the
>iPhone is the best way to break down usage by individual apps.
>
>Assuming your numbers are right apart from "Capacity", then you should
>have about 6.45 GB capcity, of which 3.3 GB is used by Apps, 0.94 GB
>Other and 0.35 GB free. That leaves 1.86 GB presumably in different
>forms of media (probably Audio).
>
>(Is the 1.66 GB figure earlier actually the Audio total reported by
>iTunes, not the Capacity?)


At this moment, iTunes shows:
Audio 1.49 GB, video 0.06 GB, Photos 0.17 GB, Apps 3.3 GB, Books
0.01GB, other 0.94 GB, free 0.50 GB.

Storage is still almost full.

>More than half your iPhone's actual capacity is being used by apps, so
>you should probably concentrate on them as the best place to free up
>some storage.


Yep. When I check "sort by size", the first 35 apps are unchecked,
making my grandsons not very happy.

>> Any advice on how to manage my storage intelligently?

>
>Look at the list of apps on the iPhone in Settings > General > Usage,
>which are sorted in size order, and decide which apps you can either
>delete entirely, or delete some content within, in order to free up
>space.
>
>Or reduce how much media you have on the iPhone. iTunes Match might
>help, since you can selectively access tracks from the cloud rather than
>storing everything on the iPhone, and have access to your entire iTunes
>library, at the cost of having to use WiFi or 3G data to play the music,
>and the annual fee for iTunes Match.


I have two variable settings. My music is set to synchronize with a
smart playlist that is limited to 5 GB, selected by random from my top
rated playlist. (and my iPhone is set to compress this, which is
why it is 1.49GB according to iTunes).

And my photos is set to include the 5 most recent Events and a couple
of checked events. With photo stream on.

>Or get a bigger iPhone.


It was tough justifying the phone I got.

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      Feb 9th, 12, 5:32 PM
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:01:36 -0700, Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I have two variable settings. My music is set to synchronize with a
>smart playlist that is limited to 5 GB, selected by random from my top
>rated playlist. (and my iPhone is set to compress this, which is
>why it is 1.49GB according to iTunes).
>
>And my photos is set to include the 5 most recent Events and a couple
>of checked events. With photo stream on.


I was changing things as I wrote this post. I got rid of the two
biggest apps and decreased the size of the smart play list to reach
the numbers I posted.

Then I posted the message and synced again. This time, my iPhone was
over-filled, requiring an additional 50.3 MB. How does eliminating
two apps, and making the playlist smaller fill it up more???

I unchecked another app (of 107 MB). Apps was 3.3 GB, and Other was
1.51 GB (What can I do to make "Other" smaller?). This time it asked
if I want to eliminate 3 apps instead of the 2.

Nope, it still wants an additional 50.3 MB. Let me try eliminating 4
apps.

Nope, it still wants an additional 50.3 MB. That amount doesn't
seem to change.


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      Feb 9th, 12, 10:45 PM
Settings ---------> Usage will tell you how much storage you're using.
Mine is using 4.6 GB of 32 GB.

Does the iphone use some of the 32GB storage for a "swap"
file when the CPU is running operations?

 
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      Feb 10th, 12, 12:07 AM
Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:10:56 +1300, (E-Mail Removed) (David
> Empson) wrote:
>
> >Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> My iPhone (smallest iPhone 4) is much smaller than my iPad (which was
> >> the largest non-3G iPad 1).

> >
> >It would help if you gave actual numbers: the capacity is written on the
> >back of the iPhone and iPad. There have been two "smallest" iPhone 4
> >models depending on when you bought it: originally 16 GB, then 8 GB
> >after the iPhone 4S was released.

>
> I don't see it on the back. I bought the $100 iPhone this January
> from Verizon.


On my iPhone 3GS and iPad 2, the capacity is clearly visible in a
rectangle just below the word "iPhone" or "iPad" on the back of the
device. I assumed the iPhone 4 was the same.

I don't have an iPhone 4 to check, but from a quick web search of photos
it looks like Apple didn't put the capacity on the back of the iPhone 4,
perhaps to reduce the variants they needed for manufacturing and spare
parts.

Not important anyway, as other data confirmed you have an 8 GB model.

> >3G and non-3G iPads are available in the same range of capacities. All
> >iPads so far have been 16 GB, 32 GB or 64 GB.
> >
> >> iTunes currently shows it to have a capacity of 1.66GB, including 0.94 GB
> >> Other, and 0.35 GB Free.

> >
> >Was that "1.66GB" figure a typo? The "capacity" figure should be between
> >6 and 7 GB for an 8 GB iPhone, about 13 to 14 GB for a 16 GB iPhone.

>
> Probably. Although I have seen iTunes with weird sizes shown that go
> away next time.


Me too.

> Right now it says 6.38GB.


That's probably the correct figure.

> The iPad settings show capacity 6.4 GB.


I thought your iPad was the largest capacity model? That would be close
to 64 GB, not 6.4 GB.

> >The coloured graph shown by iTunes on the Summary tab is the easiest way
> >to get a quick overview by category. Settings > General > Usage on the
> >iPhone is the best way to break down usage by individual apps.
> >
> >Assuming your numbers are right apart from "Capacity", then you should
> >have about 6.45 GB capcity, of which 3.3 GB is used by Apps, 0.94 GB
> >Other and 0.35 GB free. That leaves 1.86 GB presumably in different
> >forms of media (probably Audio).
> >
> >(Is the 1.66 GB figure earlier actually the Audio total reported by
> >iTunes, not the Capacity?)

>
> At this moment, iTunes shows:
> Audio 1.49 GB, video 0.06 GB, Photos 0.17 GB, Apps 3.3 GB, Books
> 0.01GB, other 0.94 GB, free 0.50 GB.
>
> Storage is still almost full.


Well, yes. Because you have almost filled up your iPhone. The iPhone
will start to warn about running out of storage when it gets below about
0.5 GB.

Adding up those numbers we get a total of 5.97 GB used, 0.5 GB free.

Your nominally 8 GB iPhone has actual storage capacity of about 6.47 GB.
This is normal: some of the storage is not available for user data,
because it is reserved by the system and/or needed as spare capacity if
the flash memory starts to wear out.

My 32 GB iPhone and iPad both have "capacity" figures in the order of
28.5 GB. The last 3.5 GB is not available for my use.

> >More than half your iPhone's actual capacity is being used by apps, so
> >you should probably concentrate on them as the best place to free up
> >some storage.

>
> Yep. When I check "sort by size", the first 35 apps are unchecked,
> making my grandsons not very happy.


Sorting the list of Apps by size in iTunes isn't going to help much,
because it shows all apps in your iTunes library, not just those on your
iPhone. It also gives misleading information about space used by the
app, as it is only counting the size of the application (i.e. its code)
in the iTunes library. It doesn't count the usage on your particular
iPhone, including data the app is managing.

You need to look at the list of apps on the iPhone itself, in Settings >
General > Usage. That shows a total storage used for each app installed
on the iPhone, including any documents it is managing and any data it
has cached.

> >> Any advice on how to manage my storage intelligently?

> >
> >Look at the list of apps on the iPhone in Settings > General > Usage,
> >which are sorted in size order, and decide which apps you can either
> >delete entirely, or delete some content within, in order to free up
> >space.
> >
> >Or reduce how much media you have on the iPhone. iTunes Match might
> >help, since you can selectively access tracks from the cloud rather than
> >storing everything on the iPhone, and have access to your entire iTunes
> >library, at the cost of having to use WiFi or 3G data to play the music,
> >and the annual fee for iTunes Match.

>
> I have two variable settings. My music is set to synchronize with a
> smart playlist that is limited to 5 GB, selected by random from my top
> rated playlist. (and my iPhone is set to compress this, which is
> why it is 1.49GB according to iTunes).


If you can't reduce the number of apps on the device, then you will have
to set the limit smaller for the amount of music. If the total size of
other categories remain the same, you will need to reduce music under
1.49 GB in order to stop the iPhone complaining about lack of storage
space.

> And my photos is set to include the 5 most recent Events and a couple
> of checked events. With photo stream on.
>
> >Or get a bigger iPhone.

>
> It was tough justifying the phone I got.


Then you will have to reduce how much is stored on it. As I said before,
Apps seems the best bet, as the total of 3.3 GB being used by Apps is
more than half the usable capacity of your iPhone.

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      Feb 10th, 12, 5:06 AM
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>Does the iphone use some of the 32GB storage for a "swap"
>file when the CPU is running operations?


I don't know.


I need to experiment and see how my smart playlists are synchronized
on my devices. I suspect they don't normally get updated.

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      Feb 10th, 12, 5:07 AM
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>> The iPad settings show capacity 6.4 GB.

>
>I thought your iPad was the largest capacity model? That would be close
>to 64 GB, not 6.4 GB.


I misspelled iPhone...

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> Does the iphone use some of the 32GB storage for a "swap"
> file when the CPU is running operations?


No.

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