Re: iPhone for Emergency Relief in Haiti - NO VERIZON DROIDS =WRONGTECH

Todd Allcock wrote:

> terrible tragedy, hundreds, if not thousands dead, and you want to use
> this news to play another round of "my phone's **** is longer than your
> phone's?"

Plus it's not even true because Haiti does have CDMA service through
Haitel. In fact Haitel restored service faster than the GSM operators
(Digicel Haiti and Comcel). Haitel is the largest wireless provider in
Haiti.

I don't know where that idiot comes up with this crap.

"AT&T lowers iPhone rates for unlimited talk and data"
<> wrote in news:2cb1937c-0403-4739-82b6-25b7e17ec907
@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> I think that 90999 works on all carriers. They are running it on CNN
> in Atlanta, taking in $1000,000 an hour.
>
>

According to the latest 2003 census there were 7,929,048 people in Haiti.
In 1982 there were 5,053,792. (http://www.statoids.com/uht.html)

So, using the differences of 21 years growing 2,873,256 comes to about
136,822/year x (2009-2003) = 820,930 + 7,929,048 = 8,749,978 minus the
200,000 deaths comes close to 8,550,000 people.

Aid is pouring in. http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/2010/01/Policy-and-
Industry-Mobile-Giving-Continues-Environment/ says they collected over $7M
in 48 hours just from wireless customers, alone!

I've heard interesting figures over $500,000,000 collected, already.

Save the 8.55M number to your desk pad, so you can use it to figure out the
"per person take" from all the government, aid bureaucracies and all those
preachers begging for you to help by sending them vast quantities of money
over the next 6 months.

I bet we'll be able to buy every man, woman and child survivor in Haiti a 4
BR, 3BA waterfront home in Miami Beach by the end of 6 months at these
rates!

At the risk of sounding horribly hard-hearted, Google:
2008 aid to haiti
and add up all the money sent to Haiti after the 2008 hurricane hit it.

Now, look at all the abject squalor these people lived in BEFORE the
earthquake. Where did all those $Billions go to help them when they were
hurricane victims? Looking at the horrible block buildings that collapsed
that are LONG over 10 years old...in every scene being shown...Where are
the NEW buildings to house the people from all the donations of 2008, just
ONE year ago?! Post some URLs if pictures of these NEW buildings that were
damaged by the quake if you find them. I've been looking for days and the
only newish looking building I found was the Presidential Palace, which
collapsed.

Money simply evaporates when handed over to any kind of "aid agency",
religious or not. Remember the Red Cross buying itself a whole new fancy
telephone system and some really nice buildings from the AID FOR NEW YORK
CITY FIREMEN'S FAMILIES they never got after 9/11?

No, I think we need to send Haiti CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL, FOOD, WATER,
INFRASTRUCTURE MATERIAL (electric lines/water lines, etc.).....everything
BUT money! Throwing money at it simply means the thieves between you and
that poor little kid sleeping in the tent will buy the thieves a new
Mercedes, more jewelry for his hoes and a bigger mansion.....ON MIAMI
BEACH!

Sending MONEY to Haiti, if it ever crosses the border at all, doesn't help
that little kid on the TV a bit.....

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:11:40 -0500, Mike Jacoubowsky <> wrote:

>> Not that I approve of the topic of the original post but he didn't
>> say that Haiti had no CDMA service, just that a Verizon phone
>> wouldn't roam there. I think that's correct, I don't think Haitel
>> provides roaming for anyone except maybe the Dominican CDMA operators.
>
> Let's hope that somebody threw a switch or did whatever it took to
> temporarily change that situation. On the other hand, it could be that
> 911-style service works regardless of carrier there, as it would here.

Wishing that a GSM tower could receive a CDMA 911 call is about as
effective as wishing that an FM radio could receive a SW broadcast.
Neither is likely to happen, under the current laws of physics :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp

tlvp <> wrote in
news:

> physics :-) .
>
SARCASM ON

Physics and logic has nothing, whatsoever, to do with the transmission and
reception of digital signals. They all think that data is being sent out
to/from the antennas, not the vast array of modem tones frequency and phase
modulating the analog carrier. They also don't believe in multipath
interference, RF attenuation and other physics associated with transmission
of RF energy in a less-than-perfect reality.

SARCASM OFF