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Howard Brazee
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      Feb 27th, 12, 3:49 PM
When I open my devices on iTunes, I see playlists that are synced with
each device. When I look at the songs, they are all grayed out. And
a few of the playlists have the ! within a triangle within a circle
that indicate some kind of error.

How do I trace down what this error is?
 
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      Feb 27th, 12, 5:58 PM
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:26:26 -0600, Jolly Roger <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>> When I open my devices on iTunes, I see playlists that are synced with
>> each device. When I look at the songs, they are all grayed out. And
>> a few of the playlists have the ! within a triangle within a circle
>> that indicate some kind of error.
>>
>> How do I trace down what this error is?

>
>Have you tried clicking that icon?


I tried right-clicking. But I needed to click on it.

So I have a different problem. I clicked on the smart playlist and
got "This smart playlist depends on one or more playlists which cannot
be found".

I infer that the playlists that cannot be found must be on the
devices. But the whole reason I have that playlist is because my
full playlist is too large to fit on my device.

I will start a new thread showing what I want to do.

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      Feb 27th, 12, 6:43 PM
I want a smart playlist that's a subset of a playlist that won't fit
on my device. I created a playlist in iTunes that points to a
playlist that I want, but is limited in size.

When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error
symbol (a ! within a triangle within a circle)

I clicked on the smart playlist and got "This smart playlist depends
on one or more playlists which cannot be found".

I infer that the playlists that cannot be found must be on the
devices. But the whole reason I have that playlist is because my
full playlist is too large to fit on my device. (my iPhone is
small, my iPad is the largest iPad 1 available, but it also is full).

My desire is to carry a subset of my large playlist that gets updated
when I synchronize, so that I'm not listening to the same music all
the time.

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      Feb 27th, 12, 7:48 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error symbol
> (a ! within a triangle within a circle)
>
> I clicked on the smart playlist and got "This smart playlist depends
> on one or more playlists which cannot be found".


As I understand it, and I may be wrong, a smart playlist is really a set of
pointers to songs; if the songs don't reside on the same device, they can't
be found. When you sync the smart playlist without syncing the songs
pointed to from within the smart playlist, you'll get that error.

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      Feb 27th, 12, 7:48 PM
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:48:02 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error symbol
>> (a ! within a triangle within a circle)
>>
>> I clicked on the smart playlist and got "This smart playlist depends
>> on one or more playlists which cannot be found".

>
>As I understand it, and I may be wrong, a smart playlist is really a set of
>pointers to songs; if the songs don't reside on the same device, they can't
>be found. When you sync the smart playlist without syncing the songs
>pointed to from within the smart playlist, you'll get that error.


That's what it looks like. So how do I do what I want to do?

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      Feb 27th, 12, 8:09 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >As I understand it, and I may be wrong, a smart playlist is really a
> >set of pointers to songs; if the songs don't reside on the same device,
> >they can't be found. When you sync the smart playlist without syncing
> >the songs pointed to from within the smart playlist, you'll get that
> >error.

>
> That's what it looks like. So how do I do what I want to do?


Sorry, but I have no idea.

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      Feb 28th, 12, 12:36 AM
Michelle Steiner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error symbol
> > (a ! within a triangle within a circle)
> >
> > I clicked on the smart playlist and got "This smart playlist depends
> > on one or more playlists which cannot be found".

>
> As I understand it, and I may be wrong, a smart playlist is really a set of
> pointers to songs;


That's a regular playlist.

A smart playlist is a search rule. Its content is generated dynamically,
and can change (e.g. 100 least recently played songs will update with a
new song if you play one of the songs on the list). If the smart
playlist is copied to an iOS device, the rule is copied, not the list of
songs. The iOS device generates the content by searching for items which
match the rule.

If the smart playlist references a regular playlist which is not on the
device, then the smart playlist won't have any items on the device.

The only way I can think of to get around this would be to use an
AppleScript or separate utility which works with iTunes, such as a
random playlist creator which derives a regular playlist as a subset of
the "master" one, and then sync that generated regular playlist.

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      Feb 28th, 12, 3:01 AM
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:36:12 +1300, (E-Mail Removed) (David
Empson) wrote:

>The only way I can think of to get around this would be to use an
>AppleScript or separate utility which works with iTunes, such as a
>random playlist creator which derives a regular playlist as a subset of
>the "master" one, and then sync that generated regular playlist.


Yeah, I thought about that, but I'd have to do a lot of work to learn
scripting well enough.

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      Feb 28th, 12, 3:18 AM
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:39:54 -0500, GOH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:43:45 -0700, in comp.mobile.ipad, Howard Brazee
><(E-Mail Removed)> said:
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>>I want a smart playlist that's a subset of a playlist that won't fit
>>on my device. I created a playlist in iTunes that points to a
>>playlist that I want, but is limited in size.
>>
>>When I looked at this within my device in iTunes, I see the error
>>symbol (a ! within a triangle within a circle)
>>

>
>You're looking at the playlist on your device. Look at the playlist in
>iTunes on your PC (Under Playlists not under Devices).
>
>The Smart Playlist (under Playlists) will show properly there.


Yes. Which doesn't help me get my songs on my device.

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      Feb 28th, 12, 9:03 AM
Am 28.02.2012 00:36, schrieb David Empson:

> A smart playlist is a search rule. Its content is generated dynamically,
> and can change (e.g. 100 least recently played songs will update with a
> new song if you play one of the songs on the list). If the smart
> playlist is copied to an iOS device, the rule is copied, not the list of
> songs. The iOS device generates the content by searching for items which
> match the rule.


Hm, I may be wrong (I'm not using playlists at all, least smart
playlists), but if that's really how smart playlists work, why not just
create a smart playlist with a rule for '*' (or whatever identifies
every song on the device)? In this case the smart playlist should always
contain all songs currently present on device, shouldn't it?

Best of luck,

Michael
 
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