[SOLVED] iTunes 10 without bloatware

Here's an interesting article I found that (for me) makes the iPad
a more attractive product. In fact iTunes is one of the main
reasons I haven't bought an iPad so far.

The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-u...bloatware/2390

SQ

In article <8hr5r.2151$>, sean_q <>
wrote:

> Here's an interesting article I found that (for me) makes the iPad
> a more attractive product. In fact iTunes is one of the main
> reasons I haven't bought an iPad so far.

then you'll be happy to know that itunes is not required.

> The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-u...g-itunes-10-wi
> thout-bloatware/2390

if you actually read the article, you'd see that only two components
can be removed if you want to use itunes with an ipad, one of which can
be disabled by the user (software update) so there's no need to skip it
and the other (bonjour) is very useful for configuring network devices
so you shouldn't skip it. many third party products, such as printers,
include bonjour and configuring them is substantially easier than
without it. not installing bonjour is just stupid.

sean_q:
>
> > Here's an interesting article I found that (for me) makes the iPad
> > a more attractive product. In fact iTunes is one of the main
> > reasons I haven't bought an iPad so far.

nospam:
> then you'll be happy to know that itunes is not required.
>
> > The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware
> >
> >
> > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-u...ing-itunes-10-
> > wi
> > thout-bloatware/2390

What an anal-retentive paranoid sean_q must be. What's he got, a 20MB
HD? In the scheme of things who gives a rats bony little kneecaps what
iTunes installs? It does its job exactly as specified and it doesn't
crash. It must have to do with being a benighted Windows drone, which
tends to turn users into anal-retentive paranoids who fear software
installations because their low expectations from their machines are so
often met.

OTOH, I have Windows installed on three of my nine Macs and iTunes
works just fine. "bloatware" and all. Yep, it's Windows paranoia
alright.

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In article <8hr5r.2151$>, sean_q <>
wrote:

> Here's an interesting article I found that (for me) makes the iPad a
> more attractive product. In fact iTunes is one of the main reasons I
> haven't bought an iPad so far.

well, now you don't need iTunes at all to use the iPad (or iPhone, or iPod
touch).

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In article <jj5nkr$sj0$>, Todd Allcock
<> wrote:

> "Doesn't crash" is about the only good thing I can say about Itunes on
> Windows.

it doesn't crash on macs either.

> The UI is confusing (e.g. determining what is and isn't clickable) to
> Windows users since iTunes doesn't follow Windows design principles
> (understandably) and the program becomes unresponsive often, (which makes
> the "what's clickable" issue even more annoying, since what is clickable
> doesn't seem to respond when nothing happens!)

the clickable issue is valid and it becomes unresponsive on macs too.
the removal of colour was another stupidity that came with itunes 10
(or was it 9?).

> The issue I notice most, is trying to select or deselect movies to sync
> when the iDevice is syncing. Scrolling through the list of movies in the
> device sync menu stalls for up to 10 seconds at a time. You can click on
> the scroll bar to your heart's content and the UI just hangs, then
> several seconds later scrolls several pages all at once, catching up to
> whatever mouse input was cached.

it does that with music too. click on a different song and it will
sometimes beachball. apparently nobody at apple has a large music
library, or ever clicks on a different song while another is playing.

> Presumably iTunes becomes unresponsive because it's too busy
> syncing/communicating with the connected device to pay much attention to
> user input. It'd be nice if you could alter the device's contents when it
> wasn't connected, to avoid the sluggishness, but you can't access any
> device specific menus or settings unless the device is connected- a catch
> 22.

it would be very nice if you could 'pre-sync' it and then just plug it
in later.

> When nothing is connected, iTunes hums along ok, so people using it
> primarily as a media player/manager probably won't notice, as perhaps
> those who use smart playlists and don't need to interact with the media
> selections while a device is connected.I suspect few Windows users use
> iTunes for much other than iDevice management, however, so we probably
> see iTunes at its worst a higher percentage of the time.

no, it still has problems when no device is connected, such as stealing
focus or scrolling the window contents whenever it feels like it.

In article <jj5qpb$ho6$>, Todd Allcock
<> wrote:

> I don't really notice with music because I "presync" music by having a
> master playlist that contains the music I want on a particular device,
> and only sync that one playlist with the device. This allows me to edit
> the devices' music contents when they're disconnected by editing the
> playlist itself, and those changes are synced at the next connection. I
> wish I could do that with video as well.

music you can pre-sync by updating the playlists that are on the
device. other stuff you can't, such as apps.

> Of course, that has a downside as well, since using a single master
> playlist disallows other playlists from being added to it. (You can't
> "nest" playlists.) iTunes has a "playlist folders" construct that will
> hold multiple playlists, but individual songs and albums can't be added
> to a playlist folder- only other playlists can.

what would adding a song to a playlist folder do?

nospam <> wrote:

>
> what would adding a song to a playlist folder do?

It appears in the playlist on the iPad/iPod after the next sync. I do it
all the time. I have specific playlists for both. Some are on both. Even
my iPod doesn't have all of them.


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Just happened to wonder whether the problem isn't iTunes per se but just
iTunes for either platform? It's another "upgrade" I haven't installed.
..


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Todd Allcock <> wrote:

>
> Presumably iTunes becomes unresponsive because it's too busy
> syncing/communicating with the connected device to pay much attention to
> user input. It'd be nice if you could alter the device's contents when it
> wasn't connected, to avoid the sluggishness, but you can't access any
> device specific menus or settings unless the device is connected- a catch
> 22.
>
..?? You can stop a sync, at least of iPad. Then you can do all kinds of
things with it connected and tell it to resync with the changes. Or is the
Windows version so inferior that you can't do what I do with my Mac? I can
turn off books, videos, music albums, whether or not it's connected. I can
change photo album contents(most of mine are not photo albums, but music
collections, travel stuff, maps, trip albums, and other stuff) and then
resync, with or without disconnecting in the interim.


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Todd Allcock <> wrote:

>
> Presumably iTunes becomes unresponsive because it's too busy
> syncing/communicating with the connected device to pay much attention to
> user input. It'd be nice if you could alter the device's contents when it
> wasn't connected, to avoid the sluggishness, but you can't access any
> device specific menus or settings unless the device is connected- a catch
> 22.
>
I'm not a Windoze person, so I only know iTunes from the Mac side, but I
don't understand the complaints in this paragraph. You can stop a sync if
you want to make changes or just leave it connected after it's done. You
can then access anything on the connected device(at least on iPad and iPod)
and change whatever you please, then tell it to sync with your changes. You
can rearrange apps. You can upload documents to Pages(or download them to
places on your computer) if you're using it. You can also turn off things
like books and videos when it's not connected.


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