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Howard Brazee
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 5:32 PM
My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.

One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.

I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.
 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 7:39 PM
Howard Brazee wrote:
> My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
> tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
> before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
> continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
>
> One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
> each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
>
> I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
> should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
> from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.


You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
How do we check, change or repair these?

On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?

Ed
 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 8:05 PM
In article <jdstnj$d9j$(E-Mail Removed)>, Ed Cryer
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
> > tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
> > before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
> > continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
> >
> > One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
> > each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
> >
> > I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
> > should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
> > from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.

>
> You've raised a big question here.


no he hasn't. those apps are buggy. well written apps do not crash on
launch.

> Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
> How do we check, change or repair these?


fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
the screen.

> On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
> Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?


reboot the ipad, but there's rarely a need.
 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 8:18 PM
In article <jdstnj$d9j$(E-Mail Removed)>, Ed Cryer
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
> How do we check, change or repair these?
>
> On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
> Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?


There is no hard drive on iPads.....

Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

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      Jan 2nd, 12, 8:32 PM
In article <020120121418547850%(E-Mail Removed)>, Charles
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
> > How do we check, change or repair these?
> >
> > On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
> > Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?

>
> There is no hard drive on iPads.....
>
> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.


there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
systems.
 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 10:29 PM
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:58 -0800, nospam <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
>> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

>
>there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
>systems.


No, but periodically I run the Disk Utility on my Mac, and often it
does find problems.

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      Jan 2nd, 12, 11:00 PM
On 01-02-2012 14:05, nospam wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
>> How do we check, change or repair these?

>
> fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
> those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
> the screen.


fsck might have some value, but defragmentation is almost useless when
the "drive" is flash memory.

There will be some overhead in reassembling a lot of small fragments
into one block, but it will be miniscule compared to the main benefit of
defrag, which is to minimize time wasted moving the read/write head all
over the place.

Many flash products nowadays have firmware that causes fragmentation, in
order to reduce "wear-out" by giving all sections of the memory equal
usage. Running defrag on those will accomplish nothing other
then waste write cycles.

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      Jan 2nd, 12, 11:13 PM
In article <jdt9dt$mo7$(E-Mail Removed)>, Wes Groleau
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >> Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
> >> How do we check, change or repair these?

> >
> > fragmentation is certainly not a problem and fsck is part of os x.
> > those who jailbreak can see it run in the console log that's dumped to
> > the screen.

>
> fsck might have some value, but defragmentation is almost useless when
> the "drive" is flash memory.


for flash, it's worse than useless. it's a really bad idea for the
reasons you cite, wear-leveling and the access time for flash is the
same regardless of where the data actually is so it doesn't matter if
files are fragmented or not.

for hard drives, defragmenting is rarely needed except in specific
circumstances such as video capture. it can also make things worse in
some cases because defragmenting can affect hot clustered files which
are put in a specific location on the hard drive for quick access.

> There will be some overhead in reassembling a lot of small fragments
> into one block, but it will be miniscule compared to the main benefit of
> defrag, which is to minimize time wasted moving the read/write head all
> over the place.
>
> Many flash products nowadays have firmware that causes fragmentation, in
> order to reduce "wear-out" by giving all sections of the memory equal
> usage. Running defrag on those will accomplish nothing other
> then waste write cycles.

 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 11:25 PM
In article <jdstnj$d9j$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Ed Cryer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Howard Brazee wrote:
> > My grandchildren are the biggest users of games on my iPad. They
> > tell me that quite often they will start a game and then it will fail
> > before they get going. For the most part, they can start again and
> > continue. Occasionally, they will have to restart more than once.
> >
> > One game they wanted to try, "Dragons Rage", seems to load a bit more
> > each time they try, but never got all of the way loaded.
> >
> > I wonder if there's some kind of Check disk I should use, or whether I
> > should note which apps these are and then delete and undelete them
> > from the iPad, or any other kind of maintenance.

>
> You've raised a big question here. Disk fragmentation, index integrity.
> How do we check, change or repair these?
>
> On my TV DVD-recorder there's an option for clearing the hard drive.
> Is there anything to validate or tidy the iPad one?
>
> Ed


There is no hard drive in an iPad. And nothing like check disk for it
either that I'm aware of.
 
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      Jan 2nd, 12, 11:26 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Howard Brazee <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:58 -0800, nospam <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >> Also you don't want to defrag flash memory. It is not necessary as
> >> there are no moving parts and it will used up it"s read/write cycles.

> >
> >there's also rarely a need to defrag hard drives with modern operating
> >systems.

>
> No, but periodically I run the Disk Utility on my Mac, and often it
> does find problems.


I used to do that too. The problems it finds never seemed to be an
issue, so I quit doing it and have never had a problem because I did.
 
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