[OT] "How Green Is Your House" and TV watching

On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.

Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?

Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?

She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.

Does anyone know typical consumption figures?

"Jon D" <> wrote in message
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> On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
> said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
> day.
>
> Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
> substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
> elsewhere?
>
> Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
> amoun of energy?
>
> She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
> his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
> less power than a TV.
>
> Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post in the
wrong group ?????

In <96E8B693C63D571E5D@66.250.146.159>, Jon D <> wrote:

>On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
>said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
>day.
>
>Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
>substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
>elsewhere?
>
>Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
>amoun of energy?

It certainly sounds like it! It'd mean you could never watch a movie in
one sitting, even if it was the only thing you watched that day! Absurd.

>She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
>his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
>less power than a TV.

She sounds like the sort of TV-hater that they have in home makeover
programmes, where the TV is always banished to a corner of the room
(often behind a folding screen) or they make a cabinet with doors so
that you can "close it away out of sight". Why should it be out of
sight!

"Jon D" <> wrote in message
news:96E8B693C63D571E5D@66.250.146.159...
> On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
> said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
> day.
>
> Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
> substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
> elsewhere?

A TV uses a relatively small amount of power. Did she mention making sure
that you only boil enough water needed for, say, one cup of tea - instead of
the half kettle most people boil and reboil? How about using a lower temp
setting on your washing machine?

> Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
> amoun of energy?

Guess - it's a woman.

> She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
> his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
> less power than a TV.

A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the house.
This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under the banner
of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s that have
better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the environment. The
government and media is choc full of ill informed **** heads like this.

> Does anyone know typical consumption figures?

Schrodinger wrote:
> A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the house.
> This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under the banner
> of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s that have
> better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the environment. The
> government and media is choc full of ill informed **** heads like this.

I'll have you know my BMW is environmentally friendly, for every gallon
of fuel I put in, it only pollutes 19 miles of atmosphere.

"Trevor Best" <> wrote in message
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> Schrodinger wrote:
>> A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the
>> house. This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under
>> the banner of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s
>> that have better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the
>> environment. The government and media is choc full of ill informed ****
>> heads like this.
>
> I'll have you know my BMW is environmentally friendly, for every gallon of
> fuel I put in, it only pollutes 19 miles of atmosphere.

Somebody needs a lesson in Boyle's law.

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:57:35 +0100, John Jordan wrote:

> Jon D wrote:
>>
>> Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more substantial
>> electrical savings could have been found easily elsewhere?
>
> I'm going to regret replying to a cross-post, but my 21" Hitachi TV uses
> 70-80W according to my wattmeter.

That sounds pretty typical.

> To bring it closer to the topic, this is much less than a 21" CRT monitor.
>
>> She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
>> his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even less
>> power than a TV.
>
> I'd be surprised if this used more than 30W.

....but probably significantly more than listening to a headphone system
(e.g. iPod, Discman, Walkman) through headphones, which I guess is the
point that was being made.

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In article <96E8B693C63D571E5D@66.250.146.159>,
Jon D <> writes:
> On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
> said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
> day.

I saw some of the programme. The bits I saw were ********.
Can't recall all the issues now, but her comment that a
TV on standby uses 80% of the full-on power was one
of the bits of ******** which I do recall her saying.

Just remember the programme is meant to be entertainment,
and sadly not educational.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Alex Butcher" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:57:35 +0100, John Jordan wrote:
>
>> Jon D wrote:
>>>
>>> Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more substantial
>>> electrical savings could have been found easily elsewhere?
>>
>> I'm going to regret replying to a cross-post, but my 21" Hitachi TV uses
>> 70-80W according to my wattmeter.
>
> That sounds pretty typical.
>
>> To bring it closer to the topic, this is much less than a 21" CRT
>> monitor.
>>
>>> She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
>>> his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even less
>>> power than a TV.
>>
>> I'd be surprised if this used more than 30W.
>
> ...but probably significantly more than listening to a headphone system
> (e.g. iPod, Discman, Walkman) through headphones, which I guess is the
> point that was being made.
>

Dodgy at best - you surely have to factor in the carbon cost of
manufacture - even if he has one already, of LiOn batteries. They have a
limit on how many charges they accept and again, what is the carbon cost of
manufacturing and getting one to market if he ends up buying a replacement
earlier than he would have because of not using his mini system?


> Best Regards,
> Alex.

"Andrew Gabriel" <> wrote in message
news:4347013d$0$38037$.. .
> In article <96E8B693C63D571E5D@66.250.146.159>,
> Jon D <> writes:
> > On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
> > said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
> > day.
>
> I saw some of the programme. The bits I saw were ********.
> Can't recall all the issues now, but her comment that a
> TV on standby uses 80% of the full-on power was one
> of the bits of ******** which I do recall her saying.

If you watched a TV taking 60W for one hour per day, and left it on standby
taking 10W the rest of the time, then almost 80% of the energy used by the
television would be when it was on standby.

Alex