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      May 16th, 04, 2:10 PM
I have an old pc:
AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
512 MB RAM 2700
MX440 Nvidia card
Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
VIA south bridge chip 686B
AMD 761 North chip
To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
soundcard (Vibra 12.
After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
video signal on monitor, no beep...
but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
happened.
I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)

I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
setting to disable the on board sound chip.
the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
could be the reason?

My emails to Gigabyte went unanswered.

Before buying another sound card ...I would like to have your help
regarding the matter.

Thanks in advance
Regards,
Daniel _Melbourne_Australia

 
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      May 16th, 04, 3:21 PM

only way to be sure is to test the sound card on another computer,
but it sounds like its dead to me, take it back to were you got it
from and get a refund


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daniel wrote:

> I have an old pc:
> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
> 512 MB RAM 2700
> MX440 Nvidia card
> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
> VIA south bridge chip 686B
> AMD 761 North chip
> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the
> on board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
> soundcard (Vibra 12.
> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T)
> no video signal on monitor, no beep...
> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
> happened.
> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it
> works fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
>
> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
> could be the reason?
>
> My emails to Gigabyte went unanswered.
>
> Before buying another sound card ...I would like to have your help
> regarding the matter.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Regards,
> Daniel _Melbourne_Australia




 
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      May 16th, 04, 10:42 PM

"daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have an old pc:
> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
> 512 MB RAM 2700
> MX440 Nvidia card
> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
> VIA south bridge chip 686B
> AMD 761 North chip
> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
> soundcard (Vibra 12.
> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
> video signal on monitor, no beep...
> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
> happened.
> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
>
> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
> could be the reason?
>


The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.



 
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      May 18th, 04, 1:35 AM
On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have an old pc:
>> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
>> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
>> 512 MB RAM 2700
>> MX440 Nvidia card
>> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
>> VIA south bridge chip 686B
>> AMD 761 North chip
>> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
>> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
>> soundcard (Vibra 12.
>> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
>> video signal on monitor, no beep...
>> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
>> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
>> happened.
>> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
>> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
>>
>> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
>> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
>> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
>> could be the reason?
>>

>
>The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
>
>

having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
boot...it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a
deadun and should be returned for refund.....if not you may have a
crook pci slot....have you tried the card in the next pci slot?? slot?
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      May 18th, 04, 3:57 AM
Thanks For your responses.
I would like to update about the problem:
I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system (it
also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they all
work fine.
So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and vibra
128 sound card?
I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help either.

Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.


Unknown wrote:

> "rello" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40aa5975.3365108@news-server...
> > On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I have an old pc:
> > >> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
> > >> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
> > >> 512 MB RAM 2700
> > >> MX440 Nvidia card
> > >> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
> > >> VIA south bridge chip 686B
> > >> AMD 761 North chip
> > >> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
> > >> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
> > >> soundcard (Vibra 12.
> > >> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
> > >> video signal on monitor, no beep...
> > >> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
> > >> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
> > >> happened.
> > >> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
> > >> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
> > >>
> > >> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
> > >> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
> > >> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
> > >> could be the reason?
> > >>
> > >
> > >The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
> > >
> > >

> > having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
> > boot...

>
> Never said that. Where did you read that from what I said?
>
> > it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
> > s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a

>
> The sound card IS dead. He as good as said that.


 
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      May 18th, 04, 2:46 PM

"rello" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40aa5975.3365108@news-server...
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:42:22 +1000, "Unknown"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >
> >"daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I have an old pc:
> >> AMD XP 2000+ Thoroughbred CPU
> >> Gigabyte GA-7DXE mainboard
> >> 512 MB RAM 2700
> >> MX440 Nvidia card
> >> Onboard sound card AC'97 Realtek chip.
> >> VIA south bridge chip 686B
> >> AMD 761 North chip
> >> To improve game performance a little bit, I decided to disable the on
> >> board sound in BIOS and install a PCI
> >> soundcard (Vibra 12.
> >> After plug in the sound card, the pc won't boot at all (no P.O.S.T) no
> >> video signal on monitor, no beep...
> >> but take the sound card off, pc works ok as nothing has happened.
> >> I have moved the sound cards to all of 5 pci slots, same problem
> >> happened.
> >> I also have tested the pci slot with the internal modem and it works
> >> fine (that rules out possibility of a failed pci slot?)
> >>
> >> I could not find any instruction in motherboard manual about jumper
> >> setting to disable the on board sound chip.
> >> the only thing i could do is to disable it in BIOS. Do you think it
> >> could be the reason?
> >>

> >
> >The sound card is just DEAD and causing the problem. Don't use it.
> >
> >

> having two active sound controllers won't cuase the system to not
> boot...


Never said that. Where did you read that from what I said?

> it may howver cause problems in windows.....swap in another
> s/card...if it boots that will tell you that the other card is a


The sound card IS dead. He as good as said that.



 
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      May 19th, 04, 11:26 PM

"daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks For your responses.
> I would like to update about the problem:
> I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system

(it
> also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
> all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they

all
> work fine.
> So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and

vibra
> 128 sound card?


Assuming everything is working right at boot time (that is, prior to
reaching windows) then no, there isnt.

> I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help

either.
>
> Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
>


The sound card is killing the board....that is, stopping it booting....and
that much is plain. The next thing I would do is closely inspect the
connectors on the sound card. It is possible they need to be cleaned.
However, my best guess would be that on the new motherboard there is some
sort of power shortage whether that be from the motherboard itself somewhere
or the PSU or both combined to cause that result. Easiest thing to do is
swap to another PSU (I personally prefer 350W or above for a P4) in and see
what happens. Another thing to try is shove the sound card in causing the
problem to reoccur. Now pull out all other cards but one at a time and see
if the problem disappears. If it doesn't, pull all of them out excepting
that sound card and see what happens. If it still happens like that, pull
the drive power plugs out and try again. If it is happening after that, you
got me and I would be taking the motherboard and/or sound card back.


 
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      May 21st, 04, 10:02 AM
I have tried many ways that you suggested:
1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
video card).
3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
drives , cd-drives. etc...
I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
will return it tomorrow.

Unknown wrote:

> "daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks For your responses.
> > I would like to update about the problem:
> > I put the sound card in my old Celeron 333Mhz, Bx PC Chip mainboard system

> (it
> > also has a Cm3880 chip on board) and the sound card works fine.
> > all my pci slots on the 2 pcs have been tested with a modem card and they

> all
> > work fine.
> > So there is definitely some incompatiblity between the gigabyte 7dxe and

> vibra
> > 128 sound card?

>
> Assuming everything is working right at boot time (that is, prior to
> reaching windows) then no, there isnt.
>
> > I also flashed the mainboard to the latest version but it does not help

> either.
> >
> > Any more of your feedback, suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks.
> >

>
> The sound card is killing the board....that is, stopping it booting....and
> that much is plain. The next thing I would do is closely inspect the
> connectors on the sound card. It is possible they need to be cleaned.
> However, my best guess would be that on the new motherboard there is some
> sort of power shortage whether that be from the motherboard itself somewhere
> or the PSU or both combined to cause that result. Easiest thing to do is
> swap to another PSU (I personally prefer 350W or above for a P4) in and see
> what happens. Another thing to try is shove the sound card in causing the
> problem to reoccur. Now pull out all other cards but one at a time and see
> if the problem disappears. If it doesn't, pull all of them out excepting
> that sound card and see what happens. If it still happens like that, pull
> the drive power plugs out and try again. If it is happening after that, you
> got me and I would be taking the motherboard and/or sound card back.


 
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      May 24th, 04, 5:29 AM
On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:02:48 +1000, daniel <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I have tried many ways that you suggested:
>1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
>can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
>2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
>video card).
>3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
>drives , cd-drives. etc...


This is a strange one. Initally I suspected a problem between 5Volt and
3.3Volt PCI. But the Motherboard slots are listed as being PCI 2.2,
which if I remember correctly, should still provide 5Volt signalling,
for the PCI 2.1 Vibra 128 card. I suppose these might be a misprints on
Gigabyte's website. Dunno.

I don't see the point of the Power supply stuff, though...

>I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
>will return it tomorrow.


Yeah, get one that is PCI 2.2 or 2.3 compliant, just in case.

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      May 25th, 04, 6:18 AM
Thanks, Richard
I'll mention that to the pc dealer tomorrow.
Regards,
Daniel

Richard Rudek wrote:

> On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:02:48 +1000, daniel <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >I have tried many ways that you suggested:
> >1/change power supply to a 400W (I was wondering if the psu designed for P4
> >can be used for AMD XP cpus but apparently it seems working)
> >2/pulling all other pci cards off the system (only the sound card and the agp
> >video card).
> >3/ unplug all drives, one at a time, then all of them at once, including hard
> >drives , cd-drives. etc...

>
> This is a strange one. Initally I suspected a problem between 5Volt and
> 3.3Volt PCI. But the Motherboard slots are listed as being PCI 2.2,
> which if I remember correctly, should still provide 5Volt signalling,
> for the PCI 2.1 Vibra 128 card. I suppose these might be a misprints on
> Gigabyte's website. Dunno.
>
> I don't see the point of the Power supply stuff, though...
>
> >I realise that it's not worth to invest any more time with this crappy card, I
> >will return it tomorrow.

>
> Yeah, get one that is PCI 2.2 or 2.3 compliant, just in case.
>
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